Emirates A380 damages YBBN runway

[Wedcue]

Stuck on the ground here, not good news... Tailstrike?

[nitpicker330]

Doesn't matter
EK have 50 more
EK will just pay a fine
EK will just sack the drivers

[Going Nowhere]

ATIS YBBN O 052311
APCH: EXP INSTR APCH FOR TFC MANAGEMENT
+ RWY: 14 FOR ARR. RWY 19 CLSD FOR ARR.
RWY 19 FROM A3 TWY AVBL FOR DEP FOR MAX B737
OPR INFO: START APPROVAL REQUIRED.
LOW LEVEL HELICOPTER OPERATIONS
IN THE VICINITY OF THE AERODROME
+ WIND: 200/14,
MAX XW 15KTS RWY 14
CLD: CAVOK
+ TMP: 23
QNH: 1013

Closed North of A3, doubt it's a tailstrike. EK is on their way to AKL at the moment.

[waren9]

Closed North of A3, doubt it's a tailstrike. EK is on their way to AKL at the moment.

depends which way it took off i guess

[IAW]

Given the recent nightly repaving works of the main runway, perhaps a section of the new stuff has given way during the takeoff roll?

[tourismman]

RWY 19 was the active and it was on takeoff so IAW could be correct .

[Lancair70]

QANTAS get blamed.


Runway debris delays flights at Brisbane Airport | News.com.au (http://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/runway-debris-delays-flights-at-brisbane-airport/story-fnii5v6w-1226776906166)


FLIGHTS arriving at Brisbane Airport this morning were delayed or diverted while maintenance staff cleared debris from the airport's main runway.
Airport spokeswoman Leonie Vandeven said operations have recommenced at a "displaced threshold" after a departing Qantas A380 blew debris, including dirt and grass, onto the runway during a takeoff earlier this morning.
"The runway was closed temporarily while staff worked to clear the debris because of obvious safety concerns," she said.
"We are currently operating with a shorten runway and are getting back on track. Arrivals were the most affected."

[DirectAnywhere]

Not to mention the opposition leader being involved in the process. News.com sucks.

We are currently operating with a shorten runway

[Capn Rex Havoc]

WEDCUE- best you change the title of the thread to Qantas A380 damages YBBN runway

[DirectAnywhere]

It's news.com.au. It could have been a virgin 737 and it would have been reported as a QF380-400 Jumbo jet. They really have no idea.

[Wizofoz]

Well, it would have had a QF flight number....

[Lancair70]

Watching the play back on FR24, all the fun of diverts etc. starts after Emirates A380 departed for Auckland.

[Capt Kremin]

It was Ek.

[Ken Borough]

An EK A380 eh? Here's me thinking it must've been that Concorde operated by Ansett-ANA! :}

[C441]

Turned up at the airport for a 9:00am flight to Melbourne. Departed at 4:30pm on the scheduled 11:00am flight.....delays and disruptions were ever-so-slightly more extensive than BAC and the media were reporting. :sad:

Oh the joy of staff travel! :cool:

[Capn Rex Havoc]

So.... an Emirates A380 took off from a runway that it is approved to operate from.

Wow that is big news.

[neville_nobody]

So.... an Emirates A380 took off from a runway that it is approved to operate from.

Wow that is big news.

Except that it damaged the concrete somehow or another and caused a few diversions and resulted in the unavailability of a instrument approach.

They are lucky it was VMC so they just moved the threshold up and continued with visual approaches. If it was IMC it would have shut down all arrivals for hours.

Funny that Leonie Vandeven made no mention of the pavement failure which was the reason given to us at the time it happened:hmm:

[framer]

What does a pavement failure actually look like? How are they detected . Naked eye? What is actually giving way . The top layer of concrete or sand /metal/ dirt at a deeper level?

[falconx]

When there's pot holes

[neville_nobody]

Usually someone spots it visually then reports it and they get engineer out there to do some sort of official inspection. I would imagine this is part of the role of safety cars.

You also see minor ones spotted during inspections and they circle them with the yellow paint. Often seen small holes in the pavement circled as you taxi around.

Sydney airport used to have problems with pavement failure in prolonged periods of rain on A1. I would assume they redid the drainage and that seems to fix the problem.

[DirectAnywhere]

If there's a pavement failure behind a 380 it tends to give way in fairly spectacular fashion.

There was one in Sydney a few months ago that the aircraft at the holding point described as, "it looks like the tarmac just exploded".

[Username here]

Photos: McDonnell Douglas MD-11(F) Aircraft Pictures | Airliners.net (http://www.airliners.net/photo/FedEx---Federal/McDonnell-Douglas-MD-11(F)/1801406/L/)

Something like this?

[Mister Warning]

So that's what the yellow lines are for.... :D

[601]

So that's what the yellow lines are for....

and the cameras.....

[C441]

They are lucky it was VMC so they just moved the threshold up and continued with visual approaches. If it was IMC it would have shut down all arrivals for hours.

Initially they continued with (jet*) departures only on 19 from A4, then when the wind became less of an issue they moved arrivals and departures to 01.

*not sure what they were doing with smaller aircraft.


Strangely, the backdrop to the MD11 photo looks remarkably like looking east across the 19 threshold at Brisbane - other than the 13L sign.

[1Charlie]

The jet blast tore up about 15sq metres of the asphalt shoulder on the eastern runway edge.

[Capt Fathom]

More glue next time!:uhoh:

[1Charlie]

And now CASA mandates a full runway inspection after every A380 arrival or departure. So a 5 minute gap in arrivals has to be forced into the sequence. Two slots lost during one of the busiest times of day.

[VH-Cheer Up]

So there goes the whole "put bigger aircraft in to maximise passenger numbers for a finite number of slot times" argument. Imagine if they brought that in at Heathrow.

Perhaps the better idea would have been "make sure pavement contractor does job properly".

[Worrals in the wilds]

And now CASA mandates a full runway inspection after every A380 arrival or departure.
Only after departures.

[DirectAnywhere]

Oh well, that only makes it half as bad. Try pulling that kinda s*&t at a real airport and see how it goes.

[C441]

Only after departures.

Except Rwy 27 in Melbourne where..........

.....in the event Rwy 09/27 is
used for landing or take-off, a full
length inspection of Rwy 09/27 must
be conducted by the Senior Airside
Safety Officer (Car 2). This may also
include a sweep/clean of Rwy 09/27
prior to the next aircraft arrival or
departure.

I believe this is due to 27 being a 45m wide runway

[esquire2012]

YBBN is only a pretend airport? Thank heavens for that. We have all been taking things far too seriously.