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fliion
7th Nov 2013, 10:49
I don't have a dog in the A v. B thing. Well I do, but I don't give a crap.

Having said that the article below makes for very interesting reading. It's content in BusinessTraveller is taken mostly from a article written in Bloomberg two days ago - but well highlighted.

Gotta love the TC quote at the end.

f.

Emirates eyes 11-across seating on A380 - Business Traveller (http://www.businesstraveller.com/news/emirates-eyes-11-across-seating-on-a380)

givemewings
7th Nov 2013, 12:51
How???

You'd have to reduce the seat width (currently 18in) to 17 or less, but even so that only gives you 10in off the other seats.... and you need 7 more for the extra seat. It certainly can't come off the aisle, the cart barely fits down as it is...

Let's not even wonder if this would require an evacuation trial with 11-abreast seating... the average pax in this day and age has trouble getting down the aisle under normal circumstances...

Also please elaborate on where this extra food is supposed to fit, the gamey is crammed as it is and they get 3 services on a ULR flight... Snack bags on the seats maybe, a la QF? Or will we be towing a trailer?

I hope this is a joke....

10 DME ARC
7th Nov 2013, 13:35
I hope not the aisle is already way too small in places, especially where it tapers round toilets etc.
I hope the Indian accountants don't drive it totally to a low cost product!! Getting that way with the cost cutting I have seen in the last ten years!!:(

fliion
7th Nov 2013, 15:29
If you read the Bloomberg article - it says they would raise the floor.

Another thread on another website said that at current floor setting, the max width would be 16.4". I don't know if there are any carriers out there that have that width. Could they redesign aisle width/carts etc? Unlikely - but remember MOL talked about standing benches on FR. When it comes to efficiency people will do strange things.

A slight floor raise would cover it? It seems like a big redesign project.

Not sure if true - Don't shoot the messenger but I doubt Doric or TC would put it out there if not possible.

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glofish
8th Nov 2013, 01:00
It can certainly be done. Just take out the showers and the bar for the extra containers and take out a few inches of insulation and you have the extra space for an additional seat.

But, oops, suddenly the aircraft looks pretty similar to others, the whole hoohaa about superior ride and blah blah is gone.

donpizmeov
8th Nov 2013, 06:20
Sounds like the perfect two class slave ship. Think we all know where it would go if they are in the future.

The don

BunkPilot
8th Nov 2013, 06:35
I doubt Doric or TC would put it out there if not possible.


This is the same person who ten years ago told a HOAM symposium that EK crew will live aboard the A380 as it travels out and back, "like a cruise ship," and that we would prefer this to overnighting in hotels.

I hope the Indian accountants don't drive it totally to a low cost product

It already is a low cost product and has been for a long time.

BigGeordie
8th Nov 2013, 07:10
Give me wings, love the idea of towing a trailer. Just cleaning the coffee off my keyboard now...

Have to agree, I can't see how it could possibly work without a major redesign and even if it did there is a huge risk of upseting the passengers who at the moment seem to prefer the A380 to the alternatives and are apparently even happy to pay a (probably small) premium to fly on it.