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G-CPTN
31st Oct 2013, 16:17
BBC News - Phone-hacking trial jury told Brooks and Coulson had affair (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24762474)

(I couldn't find an existing thread despite searching on several keywords)

dazdaz1
31st Oct 2013, 16:29
Might be a bit dodgy (on going court case) to discuss the ins and outs of the alleged affair :=:E

goudie
31st Oct 2013, 16:38
Yes, it could have it's ups and downs

G-CPTN
31st Oct 2013, 16:41
It has all been revealed to the court today, so it is just reporting what has already been made public.

VP959
31st Oct 2013, 16:49
The old thread debating this "revelation" (which the government tried very hard to hush up by putting some form of legal block on it being reported) has dropped off the relatively short-lived Jet Blast store of threads, I think.

Old news really, but nice to see that CMD's attempt to stifle the press a few months ago has been undone by the judge allowing it to be openly reported.

The fact that Coulson was both PR guru to the PM and bonking the editor of a rag that specialised in scandal, hacking etc doesn't exactly give one faith in whatever vetting processes were in place when Coulson was recruited, does it?

Sop_Monkey
31st Oct 2013, 16:54
No but I do admire Caulson's taste. I think she is a real stunner.

Lightning Mate
31st Oct 2013, 16:55
Does anyone care ?

Tankertrashnav
31st Oct 2013, 16:55
That, and Dave's cosy "kitchen suppers" with the Brookses and the rest of the Chipping Norton set don't create an impression of a PM who chooses his friends wisely.

dazdaz1
31st Oct 2013, 17:01
G-CPTN very true, but you must consider the post from Goudie and I anticipate other naughty boys posting 'school boy humour' be very careful as to diversifying thoughts (:E) as to this court case.

radeng
31st Oct 2013, 17:07
This trial is expected to take several months, and doubtless has lots of documentation. It does make me wonder whether a jury trial for big and doubtless technically complex cases is the best way to deal with such cases, rather than a senior judge with a number of assessors as needed. Especially where the gradual development of such cases has been very high profile.

Lonewolf_50
31st Oct 2013, 17:15
He did her
He dumped her
(Between them, it seems they did something wrong that wasn't involved in the above).
It happens to others who aren't so far up in the stratosphere.

Dak Man
31st Oct 2013, 17:19
I completely miss what some find attractive abour her, she's a minger IMHO.

vulcanised
31st Oct 2013, 17:31
Totally agree, Mr Dak.

I think they are an odious pair and I'm hoping they both get long sentences.

OFSO
31st Oct 2013, 17:32
Those living in England (or subscribing) read it all in "Private Eye" years ago.

Capetonian
31st Oct 2013, 17:34
I can think of few people I would less want to have any sort of intercourse with than Rebekah Brooks. She looks like a harridan and seems to have the personality to match her singularly unattractive appearance. Just my view of course, the fact that others find her appealing reduces the competition for decent looking totty.

dazdaz1
31st Oct 2013, 17:36
Dak Man.......I've always found it a 'turn on' sitting next to a lady driver, maybe some power turn on. Makes me wonder why so many ministers got the hots with Maggie:ugh:

It's a power/control thing.

vulcanised
31st Oct 2013, 17:40
I couldn't believe the gift we were being given by her husband when he described the investigation of her activities as a "witch hunt" !

Limeygal
31st Oct 2013, 17:46
I think she looks like Jackie Pallo :}

OFSO
31st Oct 2013, 17:58
Don't insult Jackie Pallo !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ln8VyI21G9Y

Ancient Observer
31st Oct 2013, 18:04
I suspect that she is one of those ladies that looks better in the flesh.

For some reason, the other newspapers are not selecting the most flattering piccies of her.

I wonder why?

El Grifo
31st Oct 2013, 18:49
Yep, a Ginger Minger to boot. I use the word "boot" advisedly !!

English "justice" could do well to catch up with a lot more of these banking, energy, governmental, legal, corporate, and press types who are quite clear in their minds that the law is for lesser mortals and not for them :ugh:


Fat Friggin Chance !

El G

cargosales
31st Oct 2013, 19:27
I couldn't believe the gift we were being given by her husband when he described the investigation of her activities as a "witch hunt" !

I find it hard to disagree with her husband ...

Lon More
31st Oct 2013, 19:41
Definitely a two-bucket in a dark room job.:ugh:

After the Huhne/Pryce (another two-bucket job) debacle all they'll probably get at the end of the day is a slap on the wrist and a couple of million quid for appearing on chat-shows.

TopBunk
31st Oct 2013, 20:25
Never liked wimmin with too much hair ..... anywhere!

But really, a ginge with an uncontrolled mop hat just gets everywhere ... she must be very good at some things:)

500N
31st Oct 2013, 20:26
I like red heads but she has too much of it.

Takan Inchovit
31st Oct 2013, 20:31
The last three letters of her name spelt backwards make for an interesting coincidence. ;)

RedhillPhil
31st Oct 2013, 20:58
Always be cautious of wimmin who spell their names alternately to the accepted norm

El Grifo
31st Oct 2013, 21:00
Where's Gingernut when you need him most :{

tony draper
31st Oct 2013, 21:04
She looks a tad too Pre-Raphaelite for me.:rolleyes:

radeng
31st Oct 2013, 21:21
A question comes to my mind:

One paper bag or two?

500N
31st Oct 2013, 21:22
Two

One for the face, one for the hair !!!

Effluent Man
31st Oct 2013, 22:06
What I can't understand is how this can possibly take six months.I think that if I were a juror I would have heard enough already to come to a decision on whether or not they are guilty.

radeng
31st Oct 2013, 22:27
With all the previous publicity, I am very uncertain as to whether or not it is possible for them to really have a fair trial. Which is a pity for both prosecution and defence. I have no doubt the judge and counsel will do their very best to ensure it, however. All of which is another reason why I don't begrudge judges their high salaries and pensions - although I do begrudge very senior civil servants theirs!

G-CPTN
31st Oct 2013, 22:32
I think that if I were a juror I would have heard enough already to come to a decision on whether or not they are guilty.Trials always start with the case for the prosecution. It is only after the incriminating evidence has been aired that the defence can begin to state its case. Newspapers (and other media) concentrate on the initial evidence and publicise it rather than waiting until the defence has had their say.

parabellum
31st Oct 2013, 22:59
99% of all good sex comes from straight between the ears. It is possible to be turned off by someone who is generally regarded as attractive and turned on by someone who is less so. It is all about chemistry and how two people react together.

Cacophonix
31st Oct 2013, 23:45
We should not judge her, just because she has a ginger minge...

Scotland the Brave (Bagpipes) - YouTube

Caco

Cacophonix
1st Nov 2013, 00:27
Preußens Gloria (prussia glory march) - YouTube

Caco

hoofie
1st Nov 2013, 05:29
It's being reported that two plain clothes coppers told a news vendor in London that he could be done for contempt by selling the latest version of Private Eye which has a big picture of Rebekah Brooks on its cover (http://privateeyenews.tumblr.com/post/65514087649/eye-1352-a-joke-in-exceptionally-bad-taste). He told them to get lost unless they had a court order.

Last weeks cover about Press Regulation is a belter (http://www.private-eye.co.uk/covers.php?showme=1351)also.

OverRun
1st Nov 2013, 05:59
99% of all good sex comes from straight between the ears

Providing, one assumes, that those ears are close to one's knees.

Krystal n chips
1st Nov 2013, 06:58
LM.... " Does anyone care ?....."

On the surface, probably not. Affairs are commonplace across society as a whole and always have been / will be.

However, when an affair takes place between two people whose working lives influenced and affected the population of the UK, let alone in the case of the tabloid editor, those whose lives were ruined by the unwarranted intrusion into their privacy " in the public interest ", a risible excuse at best from any of the tabloids, then I think it's reasonable to assume that a lot of people are interested in this case.

And then there's the political involvement to consider........

Lightning Mate
1st Nov 2013, 07:51
One paper bag or two?

Three - one for the dog.

Effluent Man
1st Nov 2013, 08:17
CPTN, Yes I understand that but from what we have heard,and of course I am assuming that this part will not be challenged,nobody is intending to dispute the paying out of hundreds of thousands of pounds for the phone hacking/bribery part.

Indeed it would be utterly bizarre if several people had pleaded guilty to serious offences that they had not committed,so I think it is fair to take that bit as read.So the only remaining defence is that the people at the top had no knowledge of what was happening.

.A company like NI would have had very tight control of financial matters so somewhere along the line we need to know how this money trickled down from those who control it to those who spent it.I think that may prove the tricky bit.

Fliegenmong
1st Nov 2013, 11:30
I think really, you'd need to see if the carpet matched the curtains....but giving there never seems to be any visible 'roots', then the 'mattting' must match:uhoh:

MagnusP
1st Nov 2013, 11:58
Alternatively, Fliegs, it could be bare floors. But Mia Sollis she ain't.

VP959
1st Nov 2013, 12:04
I have to say I find this story: Phone Hacking Trial: Police accused of trying to stop Private Eye sales - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/phone-hacking/10413148/Phone-Hacking-Trial-Police-accused-of-trying-to-stop-Private-Eye-sales.html) that the police (allegedly) tried to prevent sales of an edition of Private Eye that included details of the Brooks/Coulson affair a bit OTT.

Coming so shortly after the police (or at least some members of the Police Federation of England and Wales) have been shown to be a bunch of lying plonkers it hardly adds to public confidence in the police service, IMHO.

BOAC
1st Nov 2013, 12:23
Does the alleged affair cover the time AC was working in Downing Street, ie was 'pillow talk' a threat to the UK?

VP959
1st Nov 2013, 12:58
I've no idea, but it will probably come out in the trial, I expect. The affair allegedly lasted several years and it seems (if the content of the alleged letter on Brooks laptop is true) that they remained close after the affair had ended.

If so, then that would seem to place the competence of the vetting process used pre-Coulson's appointment even more suspect. I would have expected someone in his position within government (as a paid employee, rather than as an elected member) to have been DV'd as a matter of course, and my experience of that process is that it is pretty damned thorough at finding out about things like this.

500N
1st Nov 2013, 13:01
Are these two going to get hung ?

david1300
1st Nov 2013, 13:20
^^^^ The corrected term is hanged, not hung.:):):). No need for thanks, this is a free public service :ok:

Effluent Man
1st Nov 2013, 13:39
My guess is that if convicted they won't do time.It's just a hunch based on who they have dinner with.I have absolutely no idea exactly how they are going to come up with a reason for not giving custodial sentences,especially after Huhne copped one for a speeding ticket.But I feel confident that an accommodation will be arrived at.She may end up painting a biddy's fence.

Lon More
1st Nov 2013, 14:04
She may end up painting a biddy's fence

Is that a lesbian practice? :)

Krystal n chips
1st Nov 2013, 16:38
EM.....you may want to review your guess ......;)

Phone-hacking trial: who are the judge and lead prosecutor? | UK news | theguardian.com (http://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/oct/31/phone-hacking-mr-justice-saunders-andrew-edis-qc)

lomapaseo
1st Nov 2013, 16:48
Don't you have busses over there that you can throw them under?

redsnail
1st Nov 2013, 17:05
Just an observation... I see most are slating R Brooks on her appearance but strangely quiet on A Coulson's appearance?

It does take 2 to have an affair...
:rolleyes:

Lon More
1st Nov 2013, 17:35
Possibly because the posters to date were all hetero males, Reddo?

redsnail
1st Nov 2013, 17:47
I know.

Hence the observation of that one of the players appearance is important rather than their behaviour.

Also the description of her appearance is pretty brutal, yet there is no description of the man's appearance.

This is not limited to PPRuNe either. Eg, comments are made (not in this thread) about Angela Merkel's appearance (i.e. her physical appearance) yet none are made about David Cameron's appearance? Only his performance as a politician.

That is the disparity I have noted and commenting on.

Tankertrashnav
1st Nov 2013, 18:00
Just an observation... I see most are slating R Brooks on her appearance but strangely quiet on A Coulson's appearance?




With you there redsnail. I think that if all these examples of male pulchritude, all God's gift to women no doubt, feel that they are entitled to make disparaging remarks about this lady's appearance on JB, they should be obliged to post their own photos for our consideration.

I suspect there'd be a few pot bellies and bald pates on display from those who apparently wouldnt go to bed with her without a paper bag over her head!

redsnail
1st Nov 2013, 18:05
I'm not out to criticise any one's appearance, hence no comment about the posters appearance.

Do I have an opinion about Andy Coulson's appearance? I haven't noticed him to be honest. Do I have an opinion about him cheating on his wife? Yep.

vulcanised
1st Nov 2013, 20:53
I daresay some will have been provoked by descriptions such as "flaming red-haired beauty" (when they stopped laughing).

parabellum
1st Nov 2013, 21:57
I would like to see pictures of the wives/girlfriends/mistresses of all those on here who have written disparagingly of R. Brookes and claimed they would not sleep with her or would need paper bags to do it! If we play by Pinocchio's Rules I suspect there will be quite a few long noses around too! :)

Lon More
1st Nov 2013, 22:11
There you go Para

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y204/Badyin/img201.jpg (http://s6.photobucket.com/user/Badyin/media/img201.jpg.html)

One of her many talents.

parabellum
1st Nov 2013, 22:54
One down!:)

axefurabz
1st Nov 2013, 23:03
There are really too many bits to pick up on in this thread so I'll limit myself to this one:

99% of all good sex comes from straight between the ears.Speak for yourself.

I said SPEAK FOR YOURSELF.

Effluent Man
2nd Nov 2013, 11:28
Well I am not guilty in this respect at least.Physically Rebekah Brooks is not unattractive.She will have toned things down for the trial,it would not help looking like a sex kitten with nine female jurors but for a mid forties woman she is definitely nearer the top than the bottom.

However I deliberately avoided commenting on her appearance simply because it is irrelevant.Like most people who find their way to the top in a competitive situation Ms Brooks is sure to have unappealing aspects to her personality and I have do doubt that she would qualify for being called,in the current idiom "A piece of work".

Over achievers have personality problems.I happen to be one myself and we think that we can do things better than everyone else.That is why we tend to be heavily represented amongst the self employed.In my case I am only mildly affected but it shows mostly in relation to authority.I am guessing here that the problems came about because certain people regarded the law as not applying to them because in effect they were too important.

Taken to the extreme this becomes narcissism.If you are aware that you are that way inclined it's not too serious.I find that in my case it manifests itself as a tendency to overreact especially to petty officialdom.Ms Brooks and Mr Coulson have been suckered in by this and no doubt though the things they were doing were no big deal.It's probably the NI company culture at the heart of it.

Cacophonix
2nd Nov 2013, 11:34
Who cares what Rebekah Brookes looks like? What matters is she was a senior executive in an amoral organisation that saw fit to abuse its power.

She is now facing trail for her own hubris and the many illegal activities that occurred on her watch.

Caco

doubleu-anker
2nd Nov 2013, 12:53
Lon

Please tell me that's not my Becci flying that a/c. If it is, all my dreams are shattered!!

vulcanised
2nd Nov 2013, 12:58
unappealing aspects to her personality


You mean like profiting from the death of a murdered schoolgirl?

OFSO
2nd Nov 2013, 13:05
Or accessing for their "newsworthiness" the names of service personal KIA before the authorities had informed their families of the death ?

Effluent Man
3rd Nov 2013, 10:23
Don't get me wrong I am not failing to condemn their actions,just seeking to explain the process of rationalisation that goes on inside those companies.They are in a highly competitive situation to gain readership and it will be a constant game of brinkmanship to get the stories they want.When the possibility of hacking came along it was probably discussed along these lines: "Well if we don't do it The ****** will.

Lon More
3rd Nov 2013, 14:31
Please tell me that's not my Becci flying that a/c

No,that was Mrs. More, somewhere over France IIRC

Effluent Man
4th Nov 2013, 18:50
This is starting to get interesting.I do wonder if Coulson's counsel is getting ready to put all the blame on the flame haired one.

Lon More
5th Nov 2013, 12:34
Here's a headline I'd like to see after the trial
:
I’m a Celebrity Get Me Out of Here to be filmed directly from Belmarsh Prison

Effluent Man
6th Nov 2013, 07:59
The evidence gets more bizarre by the day.They dump a computer in a car park close to their Chelsea home for the NI security man to dispose of.But before he gets there the cleaners discover it and hand it in to the police.Anyone with a modicum of intelligence would have removed the hard drive and frisbeed it off the end of Southend pier or buried it in a remote field somewhere.

parabellum
6th Nov 2013, 10:53
Can't happen, the orange of her jump suit would clash with the colour of her hair!

lonkmu
6th Nov 2013, 11:45
I liked this cover

Private Eye | Official Site - the UK's number one best-selling news and current affairs magazine, edited by Ian Hislop (http://www.private-eye.co.uk/covers.php?showme=1352)

Effluent Man
6th Nov 2013, 18:01
Hislop was talking about this on HIGNFY.Apparently the cops went up to a news vendor and told him to remove it from sale.He asked if they had a court order,they said no,he said f*** off then..

El Grifo
6th Nov 2013, 18:27
Ha ! Just got my copy in the post today :ok:

El G.

500N
6th Nov 2013, 18:31
I thought it was a very good cover.