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DanS333
23rd Oct 2013, 02:59
Hi People,

I am looking for any leads on the locations of DH.104 Dove / Devons around Australia. I hope to compile a list to help locate aircraft in need of presevation. i have a website and facebook page setup dedicated to this cause, please check them out when you get a chance.

DH.104 Dove Preservation Group (http://dh104preservation.webs.com/)
https://www.facebook.com/pages/DH104-Dove-Preservation-Group/523574834358937
http://dh104preservation.webs.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=185852286
Thank you,
Daniel Sherburn
DH.104 Dove Preservation Group

Adsie
23rd Oct 2013, 07:25
I was in Mackay a few years ago and there was one there in dire need of repair.

I did speak to the owner and he stated he did have parts for repair, as far as I remember he had two new wings still in crates and some other parts

If you talk to the flying school up there they may be able to steer you in the right direction

Let me know how you go

Regards

Nomde plume
23rd Oct 2013, 07:27
I believe there is one at tocumwal
VH-OBI

VH-XXX
23rd Oct 2013, 08:31
Doesn't Jeff Trappet have one at YLTV?

kaz3g
23rd Oct 2013, 11:45
There is either a Drover or a Dove at Broken Hill

Try Oldprops De Havilland Dove Census (http://www.oldprops.ukhome.net/Dove%20Census.htm)

Kaz

CHAIRMAN
23rd Oct 2013, 12:38
Most are now in museums - almost every aircraft museum in Aussie has one.
There is still one or two airworthy or close to I believe.

Hasherucf
23rd Oct 2013, 12:46
Was there one in Redcliffe ? I think the military version (devon?)

http://s15.postimg.org/xcl1u73l7/257_19478498581_4443_n.jpg

Desert Duck
24th Oct 2013, 01:29
Darwin Aviation Museum has a Transportes Aereos de Timor (TAT) Dove reg CR TAG, that come out of Dili in 1975.

Not sure what happened to VH CJX & VH CJY,both at Jandakot in the long grass at one stage, many years ago. They were originally Devons I think.

thunderbird five
24th Oct 2013, 02:36
Heathcote Aircraft "Museum" :rolleyes:

the_derelict_aircraft_museum (http://www.grubby-fingers-aircraft-illustration.com/the_derelict_aircraft_museum.html)

thunderbird five
24th Oct 2013, 02:36
Oh - and the one at Red Rooster in Niddrie...:E

Jabawocky
24th Oct 2013, 03:40
Hey Chairperson, that photo looks like one I know, you know it?

A Drover at YCAB not flying anymore.

C206driver
24th Oct 2013, 04:03
hasherucf- correct.

Bob Taits fb page had a video showing second engine runs, first flight soon...:ok:

pistinaround
24th Oct 2013, 04:05
I was once told that the Dove that was parked at Redcliffe about 10 years ago was once an Admirals personal plane ( British RN ) anyone know if there is any trough this story ?

Dog One
24th Oct 2013, 04:27
That Is correct, I believe they where called "Admiral Barge's". There was also a Heron in Australia which was ex RN.

Stikman
24th Oct 2013, 04:47
There used to be one at Kyneton airfield in the late 80's...dunno what happened to it, though.

DancingDog
24th Oct 2013, 05:24
Heathcote Aircraft "Museum"
Please tell me people don't pay money to see that stuff

VH-XXX
24th Oct 2013, 06:43
That Dove at Heathcote appears to be the one that sat derelict at Wallan for many years.

I16
24th Oct 2013, 07:25
Could be wrong but thought the Dove at Wallan was a sort of tan with a little bit of red on it. Might be dreaming about another one I saw somewhere.

4Greens
24th Oct 2013, 07:39
Used to be one at Moorabbin some moons ago. Was employed flying crayfish from Tassie to Mel.

Wally Mk2
24th Oct 2013, 08:20
VH-ABM was the Dove at MB (the airframe out at Heathcote now)for many years with grass growing under it & VH-NBM was the tan coloured Dove out at Wallan (now a housing estate!), I know as I used to fly both:{
Both where Riley conversions (IO720's)with NBM having what appeared to be a typical swept back Cessna type Fin/rudder making it much better control wise upon T/O. I have a one off fantastic painting of VH-ABM done by our very own resident aviation artists AE, so sad to see that airframe died at Heathcote:-(



Wmk2

gaunty
24th Oct 2013, 12:29
Have a rummage around in here.

VH-CJX (http://www.edcoatescollection.com/ac1/austcl/VH-CJX.html)

The facts re Murchison are that we did not go out of business it was sold to the owners of Transwest who then comprehensively trashed the company. It's a long but typical Australian aviation penis envy story.

We bought the 3 aircraft in boxes off the wharf in Sydney.

Our Chief Pilot, The wonderful ex RNZAF VIP Sqdn Duncan Cumming had flown the aircraft.

We had three LAME's in the hangar who had done their apprenticeship on the very aircraft at Hatfield I think it was. They were ex MMA so they knew a bit about them. Mick Symons was the CE.

One of the Altair aircraft and I can't remember which one was rendered unserviceable by an enthusiastic moron using the incorrect paint stripper and destroying the bonding. Yup HdeH were using the same form of chemical bonding in WW11 aircraft now touted as leading edge.

MakeItHappenCaptain
24th Oct 2013, 19:00
Redcliffe's Dove has been doing engine runs over the last few weeks after many years of inactivity.

Stay tuned.....:ok:

hurlingham
24th Oct 2013, 20:59
Very sad to see the demise of VH CJY & VH CJX - I had a lot of hours in them.

Just as sad was the demise of VH CJS the DH114.

Aye Ess
24th Oct 2013, 21:20
Hey wally...this one??

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a401/alan_spears/DoveVH-ABMjpeg_zps171ff90b.jpg

Critical Reynolds No
24th Oct 2013, 21:27
So where is VH-NBM now? Heathcote as well?

Critical Reynolds No
24th Oct 2013, 21:41
Having a look around google, found this. Concerned by the amount of firies around!!

YxZDD2BTwjg

Wally Mk2
24th Oct 2013, 22:57
.........................that's the one 'AE' that painting has pride & joy up on my wall with the other 3 you done for me (one to go, shall be in touch about the last chapter). I look at that Dove painting & often wonder what was I thinking on some of those nights when the WX was crap & all I had was a Batter Scout compass (few would know what I am talking about there) & a watch in which to make an Inst App, oh the Dove had all the fancy radio gear alright but only cut out from a Flying Mag & stuck on the inst panel:):-)

"CR No" I don't know what happened to old NBM, someone must know where the old girl ended up. It had manual Turbo chargers (waste gates) that where only there for looks, like both those old Doves nothing worked much.


Wmk2

uncle8
25th Oct 2013, 00:09
NBM was bought by an aircraft collector, farmer, from Rupunyup, Vic. Heard that he has quite a collection including ex RAAF DC3. Had to check Google for the spelling (not that it was much help because it leads you to believe that Rupunyip is correct) and found evidence of a Wessex and Canberra there too.

Fris B. Fairing
25th Oct 2013, 00:21
Last report I heard was that NBM was with a private collection at Rupanyup, Vic.

Rgds

Uncle8 beat me to it. At least we came up with the same answer!

Critical Reynolds No
25th Oct 2013, 03:46
A recent picture of ABM. Not a good look. Apparently for sale for $9,500.
http://memberfiles.freewebs.com/77/49/102194977/photos/undefined/015-6.JPG

cac_sabre
25th Oct 2013, 04:55
http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3697/10469930323_303ca282b0_c.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/87490663@N08/10469930323/)
ymen devon 2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/87490663@N08/10469930323/) by wallycacsabre (http://www.flickr.com/people/87490663@N08/), on Flickr
http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5490/10469748934_ac97e1efff_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/87490663@N08/10469748934/)
dove2 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/87490663@N08/10469748934/) by wallycacsabre (http://www.flickr.com/people/87490663@N08/), on Flickr

Wally Mk2
25th Oct 2013, 05:14
Tnxs 'CAC' for the trip down memory lane:-)

I remember old DHI a true Dove & the LR35 beside it too, to think I used to jump from one to the other (diff operator), the contrast was amazing!:)

$9.5K for old ABM............My God it was lucky to be worth that when it was airworthy & I use that term loosely to:-)


Wmk2

I16
25th Oct 2013, 10:18
Thanks for the confirmation Wally Mk2, regarding tan colour of the Dove at Wallan.
When I saw it there I always thought it was a strange for a Dove in that colour - was it a corporate scheme?

Wally Mk2
25th Oct 2013, 12:21
"I16" am trying to reach deep into my feeble old brain here & recall NMB's history. I 'think' & I use that term loosely it originally belonged to some Sultan or someone of note back in the 50's or so (so yes a corporate scheme I guess) but ended up being modified for more practicable use (Lyc engines) somewhere along the way.

Both ABM & NBM where in a poor state even when flying & where a challenge to keep flying as the owner (at the time when I used to drive them) found out.
It was all about bums on seats, 11 pax if I recall.

Just as a funny side note (& this is just a story) I did a charter down to YFLI many years back in ABM, took some guys with all their gear fishing & scuba diving. After a couple of days hanging around I met the guys (about 8) back at Whitemark drome for the return trip back to EN. I loaded all their clothes/gear in the cavernous luggage hold of the old Dove & I said is that it? Shortly afterwards along came a flat tray 4x4 Toyota with a heap of boxes, eskies & extra stuff all tied down on the back tray, that lot the guys expected to load into the Dove, their price catches over the last few days in the large Eskies full of ice & crays/fish! End result....wasn't popular but we stayed alive !

Wmk2

DanS333
28th Oct 2013, 00:45
Thanks Guys, keep em coming
http://dh104preservation.webs.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=183085651


Regards, Daniel Sherburn
DH.104 Dove Preservation Group (http://dh104preservation.webs.com/)
https://www.facebook.com/pages/DH104-Dove-Preservation-Group/523574834358937

I16
28th Oct 2013, 09:01
For devotees of Doves here is production and history of most airframes
CNAPG individual aircraft history pages - deHavilland Dove. (http://www.cnapg.net/dove.htm)

Wally Mk2
28th Oct 2013, 11:39
Thanks 'I16' was good to find out a little of the history of the two I used to fly.

Wmk2

I16
28th Oct 2013, 12:11
No probs 'Wally MK2' google and bing are my friends!!
I hope you can let us know a few more of your good times with Dove's

Critical Reynolds No
28th Oct 2013, 23:13
...and Sir Maurice

Wally Mk2
29th Oct 2013, 00:33
Sir Maurice?...........God now there was a character!

Plenty more stories from the old Dove days & some are best left to this old codgers fading old mind:E


Wmk2

DanS333
29th Oct 2013, 21:22
oh please share Wally,
my Dad did his training with Discover Flying in SYK & TXA and worked for big M doing office work and washing the aircraft to "earn hours". how many he earned i am unsure. Dad told me before he passed recently that he was called to MM's house one night with all the DF crew where they were show the master plan for the "Penguin Express" the dove arrived a few week later i think.
Cheers, Dan

CharlieLimaX-Ray
30th Oct 2013, 00:13
How did the Riley Dove compare performance wise to the original Dove?

training wheels
30th Oct 2013, 01:41
I remember in the early 90's there used to be a fleet of them at Essendon taking tourists down to Phillip Island to see the Penguins. Can anyone recall who the operator was? I remember vaguely one having an engine failure after take-off on 17 at YMEN but landing safely in the streets of North Essendon.

rnuts
30th Oct 2013, 10:06
Dan,
Very sorry to hear about the passing of your dad.
Certainly was one of the gentlemen on the airport.
Will be sadly missed.
Your Cherokee was the very first aircraft I worked on at Essendon alongside your dad.
Spent many years working on the Doves. Fond memories.
:ok:

rnuts
30th Oct 2013, 10:18
Training wheels.
There were 2 different operators running doves at that time.
1 operator with 2 Riley doves and another operator with 3 doves doing freight, charter and Dinner flights around the bay.
I don't think there are too many aircraft that could take out a number of houses and then all the POB pretty much walk away.
One tough old bird !!

I16
30th Oct 2013, 10:27
Have read some of the press reports of the crash and the resulting claims etc.
One very tough old aircraft and crew- can't find a result for the claim.

rnuts
30th Oct 2013, 10:48
The cause of the crash was a defect with the engine driven fuel pump.
The engine failed at the worst possible time in the takeoff and to add in salt to injury was not an instant failure.
To cut a long story short.... The pilot was exonerated of any blame after a very lengthy investigation.

I16
30th Oct 2013, 11:05
Thanks rnuts - this is where I picked up about the claim - but can't find any result. Essendon Air Crash - Residents Sue Rudge (http://www.airhostess.com.au/air-hostess-articles/1994/4/1/essendon-air-crash-residents-sue-rudge/)

rnuts
30th Oct 2013, 11:10
Stretching the memory but I think they tried to sue but because he was exonerated of any blame it all fell in a heap for them.

Wally Mk2
30th Oct 2013, 11:10
'tw' as 'runts' says there where 2 operators back then with the old Pommy ergonomic monsters (Doves). Ted Rudge (Rudge Air) whom found out how they don't fly with one donk failed & the flaps still hanging out ( so I heard) near 20 yrs ago now he had the original Gypsy Queens donks in his. I was flying VH ABM that very night he crashed, my Mob Ph (house brick back then) went nuts when my family & friends found out that a Dove had crashed at EN.
The other operator Maloney Aviation (also various other trading names) operated the 'Penguin Express" & had VH NBM & VH ABM, both Riley conversions. We used to squeeeeze 11 pax in them, the Japanese tourists (mostly newlyweds)where tiny so they fitted well:-)

'Dan' am also sorry to hear of yr dads passing, hopefully he's in a better place now.
The Doves where already operating when I came to fly them so I don't really recall to many people whom worked for Maurice floating around back then sorry.
I remember Maurice's son Rowan (may he rest in peace, poor kid lost his life way too early) hanging around the office helping out where he could & the times that Maurice would give each pax a glass of champers prior to boarding for the Penguin flight (drink to sooth the nerves, if they only knew!:)) then what was left over un-drunk which was a fair bit due the Japs not really drinking that awful $2 bottle of so called bubbly Maurice poured the rest back in the bottles & they went back in the fridge for 2moro nights poor buggers, amazing how a stir with a finger brought the bubbles back to life:E

One night coming back late into EN with the usual load of Japanese onboard I had a young girl up front with me (control column removed) whom whilst we where orbiting over the CBD (which was usual as part of the tour) snapped her camera complete with large external flash as she leaned right across me to get the City lights, of course at that very instant the auto pilot failed, ME!!! Talk about couldn't see a thing for a couple of minutes!!:)
Also it was customary to still do the city orbit at night on the way home even in IMC, Maurice said they paid for it so we had to do it otherwise they would have wanted a discount & that word never existed in Maurices mind:E Good job ATC told us we where right over the CBD then I/we did a large slow rate one turn till the old ADF needle was pointing back to EN, orbit complete, jobs done lets land this sucker!:-0)
........................oh the many stories, am sure us old codgers have plenty buried deep down in out feeble minds:E

Wmk2

I16
30th Oct 2013, 11:18
Thank you Wmk2 - brilliant story.

Critical Reynolds No
31st Oct 2013, 02:24
Is that "the" BIll Shorten in your link I16?

DanS333
31st Oct 2013, 02:46
Thanks 'Rnuts" Dads loss was very unexpected and it is great the hear how loved he was at Essendon.
Dan.

spinex
31st Oct 2013, 02:57
Is that "the" BIll Shorten in your link I16?

Seems likely, he worked for Marice Blackburn for a short while, around then.

training wheels
1st Nov 2013, 01:33
Nice story Wally. So you're the man flying the Doves on the Penguin Express all those years ago. :ok: I had just qualified for my NVFR rating back then and regularly flew the city orbits at night with friends .. used to always hear the Doves on EN tower frequency. :ok:

Aye Ess
1st Nov 2013, 04:37
Found another painting I did....it's acrylic 20cm x 25cm

http://i1032.photobucket.com/albums/a401/alan_spears/Dovejpeg_zps552d17dc.jpg (http://s1032.photobucket.com/user/alan_spears/media/Dovejpeg_zps552d17dc.jpg.html)

Wally Mk2
1st Nov 2013, 09:14
'AE' as usual great creations of yrs there but yr missing one critical thing on any Dove painting you show whilst on the ground, 3 puddles of oil under each wheel assy:E

'wheely' I was one of a few who drove the old Doves, there where others who where not quite right in the head like me:E The old girls did teach you one thing though, how to fly, to think outside the square & not just by the rule book:-)


Wmk2

CHAIRMAN
1st Nov 2013, 14:13
Give him a break Wal, they're Lycos and it's moving.
BTW - 3 puddles of oil??

Planemike
1st Nov 2013, 16:43
Please can anyone cofirm the fate of VH-CTS? It was apparently at Mildura when the museum closed.

Planemike

Hobo
1st Nov 2013, 19:04
VH-MAL (http://www.qam.com.au/aircraft/dove/VH-MAL.htm) is at Caloundra in the Queensland Air Museum (http://www.qam.com.au/default.htm). They also have a Heron. VH-KAM (http://www.qam.com.au/aircraft/heron/VH-KAM.htm).

Wally Mk2
1st Nov 2013, 22:03
'chairy' yes 3 puddles of oil, only those that are famil with old Doves will understand that comment:) And how do you know it's moving? If it is then 'AE" must have set a world record for that very quick painting:ok:


Wmk2

DanS333
3rd Nov 2013, 08:19
Hi Planemike,
Part of CTS is still flying! it was purchased by Ted Rudge in 92' and its nose from the rear cockpit bulkhead forward replaced the badly damaged nose of VH-DHI see link below for photo's of it at mildura and in that album there is also a photo of DHI part way through the rebuild
http://dh104preservation.webs.com/apps/photos/album?albumid=15012960

Cheers, Dan.

DanS333
3rd Nov 2013, 08:41
Thanks for the link to MAL, Hobo.
Cheers, Dan

DanS333
3rd Nov 2013, 09:22
Hi People,
Can anyone,shed any light on the current status of VH-EOB. I have been trying to get in contact with Emmet O'Brian but have had no luck.
Cheers, Dan

Wombat300
3rd Nov 2013, 09:55
Hi

EOB sat at different parts of the Mackay GA tarmac for many years. It was sold and dismantled/removed sometime last year. Can't remember who bought it. There was a spare set of wings for it at Chrisair but not sure what happened to them either.

Cheers

Planemike
3rd Nov 2013, 14:01
Dan.......

Congratulations on an excellent site.

Many thanks for replying to my enquiry. Leads to the question, where is the rest of the airframe?? This would mean that the nose is the last part of an East African Airways aircraft that is still flying. Until recently a couple of ex EAAC VC10s were flying with the RAF. An ex EAAC Rapide is under restoration to flying condition in South Africa.

Have read through the information on VH-MAL (ex VP-KEJ) on the QAM site. It is stated that both ex the EAAC Doves (sold to Mandated Airlines) were flown in PNG with their Kenyan registrations. Now the question......does anyone out there have a photograph of VP-KDG (later VH-MAB/-CTS)?

Planemike

Bradan feasa
3rd Nov 2013, 16:12
Any information on the fate of VH-OBI (c/n 04525) last heard of at Tocumwal, NSW in March 2008 would be welcome.

DanS333
3rd Nov 2013, 22:06
Hi Bradan,

VH-OBI is now in the Northern Territory and is owned by a charter operator there. As far as i know it is airworthy but i have yet to get in contact with the owner to confirm its status.

planemike,
I believe there rest of the CTS airframe went to a collector but i will need to confirm.

Cheers Dan.

DanS333
3rd Nov 2013, 22:17
Hi Guys,
Another Devon we are looking for is Ex VH-MGT, I have Spoken with Lincoln Nitschke and he informed me that it was sold to a bloke that owned a shed company in South Australia, he had it a his display yard in to the mid 90's.
He could not remember the guys name and he has since gone out of buisness. Any info would be great.

VH-MGT (http://www.edcoatescollection.com/ac1/austmz/VH-MGT.html)
VH-MGT (http://dh104preservation.webs.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=184156729)

Cheers, Dan

DanS333
3rd Nov 2013, 22:23
Another link for Planemike

VH-CTS (http://www.edcoatescollection.com/ac1/austcl/VH-CTS.html)

Cheers, Dan

DanS333
7th Nov 2013, 01:35
Hi,
just a quick update about VH-OBI.
I can confirm that it is still located in the Ex sportavia hangar at Tocumwal, it was sold to NT charter company Air Frontier in 2011 but it has not flown in many years.OBI is still essentially an airworthy aircraft though it does need a bit of work before flying again.
Cheers Dan.

CAPTAIN-C2H5OH
7th Nov 2013, 04:40
I think there's either a Dove or Drover usually parked at Bathurst NSW???

StallsandSpins
7th Nov 2013, 09:27
Dunno what became of DHE which sat for some years out at berwick in its (i assume) original northern territory aero medical service markings in a pretty dilapidated state. it was originally bought to casey by an american expat who planned to get it air worthy but that never eventuated, it changed hands a few times while it was there then it was taken away on a truck one day.

I was looking at it one day at Casey with Mac Job and i remember him saying "i saw this aircraft when it was brand spanking new and i was very jealous of the NT aero medical guys because they got the new aircraft and the SA aero medical service (who he flew for at the time) had to make do with DH 84 dragons". Imagine doing flying doctor work nowadays in what amounts to a large twin engine tiger moth!!! :ok:

Some years ago i went into the technical book shop here in Melbourne (To read aviation magazines of course!) and i noticed they had an outer wing panel with DHE clearly visible ...i asked the guy at the counter about it but he didn't have a clue about it. The technical bookshop closed down some years ago and i dont know what became of it or the rest of DHE.

DanS333
11th Nov 2013, 00:33
Hi CAPTAIN-C2H5OH,
I believe it is a drover at Bathurst

Stalls and Spins,
There is a Dove in a backyard in Croydon North. i have yet to confirm its identity but i believe that it is DHE.

Cheers, Dan
DH.104 Dove Preservation Group (http://dh104preservation.webs.com/)

triton140
11th Nov 2013, 00:56
Looks like it might be DHE ...

Croydon North Dove (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria/garden-pilots-flight-of-fancy/story-e6frf7kx-1111112611587)

DanS333
12th Nov 2013, 21:43
Thanks Triton140,
I have been looking for something about DHE for awhile. :)
Cheers, Dan

triton140
12th Nov 2013, 22:08
This might be it:

37°46'0.57"S 145°17'34.10"E

Address fits with the owner.

vee tail
17th Nov 2013, 13:54
I flew VH-DVE many years ago on the west coast with a private owner flying freight and alsorts. It was a Devon and the owner at the time also owned VH-DCA which was a grand commander -690. Gun metal grey.
No idea where old rundal is these days

DanS333
26th Nov 2013, 03:21
Hi vee tail,

Thanks for sharing, I was there when DVE was assembled after being imported from england in 93. always liked the Sea Devons both DHI & DVE
i remember the 690 aswell. DVE unfortunatly sat at warnervale in NSW for many years and was vandalised, she is currently at Australian Aviation Museum under restoration as i understand Australian Aviation Museum (http://www.aamb.com.au/TAYLOR.HTM)
here is an early photo of her in service in nice colors De Havilland DH.104 Sea Devon C20, XJ319, Royal Navy (http://www.abpic.co.uk/photo/1274615/)
and on our site
VH-DVE (http://dh104preservation.webs.com/apps/photos/photo?photoid=183085648)
if you have any photos of DVE or stories you can share please PM me.

Cheers Dan
DH.104 Dove Preservation Group (http://dh104preservation.webs.com/)

Capt Fathom
26th Nov 2013, 04:01
It's still listed in the Aircraft Register!

I have been trying to get in contact with Emmet O'Brian but have had no luck

CASA Aircraft Register + White Pages if you haven't tried that yet. Mackay's not a big place!

DanS333
26th Nov 2013, 04:13
hi Capt fathom
yeah I have tried calling him but no answer. Left a message but will have to try again.
cheers, Dan

DanS333
3rd Dec 2013, 01:56
Hi Guys,
Found this clip of the de Havilland factory at Hatfield in 1948
some great shots of Dove's bewing assembled
DE HAVILLAND AIRCRAFT FACTORY - British Pathé (http://www.britishpathe.com/video/de-havilland-aircraft-factory)

Cheers Dan.

Mike McG
12th Dec 2013, 22:40
The Australian Aviation Museum Bankstown, Starky Drive Bankstown Airport, has Devon VH-DVE in its collection, essentially complete. restoration is ongoing, but it is a long term project for the museum with limited financial and volunteer resources. The aircraft was built in 1953. Currently needs a cockpit canopy and a lower front undercarriage unit that holds the nose wheel. Any assistance greatly appreciated. Email [email protected]

DanS333
20th Dec 2013, 02:27
Hi Mike,

thanks for the Info, as i posted earlier I was there when Ted Rudge re assembled it in OZ and I have flown in DVE I would love to put progress of the restoration up on the site and FB page, that way we might be able to get the parts you require. I know canopies are a bit hard to come by these days but i would suggest contacting Devonair in england as they have an extensive range of Dove & Devon spares. there were a couple of members on the Key Forum talking about getting new ones made so you could contact one of them. link below
DOVE COCKPIT CANOPY (http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?125567-DOVE-COCKPIT-CANOPY&highlight=Dove)
Regards, Daniel Sherburn
https://www.facebook.com/pages/DH104...23574834358937 (https://www.facebook.com/pages/DH104-Dove-Preservation-Group/523574834358937)
DH.104 Dove Preservation Group (http://dh104preservation.webs.com/)

rnuts
21st Dec 2013, 00:59
Air force museum in Christchurch might be worth a try for parts.
Also noticed a Dove for sale on EBay in the U.S with spares.
Current bid $15000.

CHAIRMAN
22nd Dec 2013, 16:09
I know an outfit in QLD that has a mould for producing new Dove cockpit canopies. I also believe the Bankstown museum has a new one already.

DanS333
22nd Dec 2013, 23:14
Hi Chairman,

Can you please PM some contact details re "I know an outfit in QLD"
Cheers, Dan


DH.104 Dove Preservation Group (http://dh104preservation.webs.com/)
https://www.facebook.com/pages/DH104...23574834358937 (http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&key=1e857e7500cdd32403f752206c297a3d&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pprune.org%2Fpacific-general-aviation-questions%2F526113-whereabouts-dehavilland-doves-oz.html&v=1&libId=ff6aae57-3119-4c00-865f-c263a16951e2&out=http%3A%2F%2Fapicdn.viglink.com%2Fapi%2Fclick%3Fformat%3 Dgo%26key%3D1e857e7500cdd32403f752206c297a3d%26loc%3Dhttp%25 3A%252F%252Fwww.pprune.org%252Fpacific-general-aviation-questions%252F526113-whereabouts-dehavilland-doves-oz.html%26out%3Dhttps%253A%252F%252Fwww.facebook.com%252Fpag es%252FDH104-Dove-Preservation-Group%252F523574834358937%26ref%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.ppr une.org%252Fnewreply.php%253Fdo%253Dnewreply%2526amp%253Bnoq uote%253D1%2526amp%253Bp%253D8228827&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.pprune.org%2Fnewreply.php%3Fdo%3Dnewrep ly%26noquote%3D1%26p%3D8228827&title=Whereabouts%20of%20dehavilland%20Doves%20in%20OZ%20-%20PPRuNe%20Forums&txt=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fpages%2FDH104...2357483 4358937&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13877576157856)

DanS333
6th Jan 2014, 02:26
Hi Guys,
Still looking for any leeds on Dove1b C/N4404 ex VH-CJY
last known location was the International Airliner Museum with Prototype Heron CJS. the owner of the museum has unfortunatly passed away. the heron made its way to the Morabbin museum but they do not know where th dove ended up.
Thanks in advance
Dan

DH.104 Dove Preservation Group (http://dh104preservation.webs.com/)
https://www.facebook.com/pages/DH104...23574834358937

http://hawkseye.bravepages.com/australia/jad/vh-cjy.jpg

DanS333
8th Jan 2014, 22:26
Hi Guys,

We had an earlier post about a dove at bathurst, we put that down to the Drover that is there but i have had some recent info that there is a dove somewhere around bathurst, its painted black and has either shark or dragon teeth painted on it:yuk:, if you can confirm this and or have photo's it would be great.
Cheers, Dan

DH.104 Dove Preservation Group (http://dh104preservation.webs.com/)
https://www.facebook.com/pages/DH104...23574834358937

Tankengine
9th Jan 2014, 12:13
There is an aeroplane on a property about 20 miles NW of Bathurst which I have been told is a Dove, I have only seen it from about 5000', about the right size, tapered wings.:confused:
The property has dozens of vehicles spread through the trees, the owner is a "collector!";)

DanS333
9th Jan 2014, 20:38
thanks Tankengine,
do you know waht road or a lat & long, i want to try and find it on google earth.
Cheers Dan.

Tankengine
10th Jan 2014, 00:10
Up to the NW of Eglington to the East of the river valley along Freemantle road.
I have had a look on google Earth though and cannot find it.:ouch:

DanS333
10th Jan 2014, 03:18
thanks again,:ok:
Cheers, Dan
DH.104 Dove Preservation Group (http://dh104preservation.webs.com/)
https://www.facebook.com/pages/DH104...23574834358937
It's not Derelict, it's just resting

6317alan
10th Jan 2014, 04:03
It was once a nice aeroplane to fly, pity to see it like this!

Fantome
10th Feb 2014, 01:28
PLEEEEZE . .. .. resize that massive sad pic post #94

DancingDog
10th Feb 2014, 01:37
Whats the lat & long Dan?

DanS333
10th Feb 2014, 01:38
PLEEEEZE . .. .. resize that massive sad pic post #94

would not let me resize it so i just killed it.
Cheers Dan.

Fandangled
10th Feb 2014, 23:07
I used to regularly drive through a little place called Teddywaddy in Vic' that had what looked like a few old doves mostly intact and a number of other aircraft in the yards of a private property. They have all since disappeared but some are still visible on Google Maps.
Does anyone know where they may have gone? not into scrap I hope.
Sorry I've never stopped and snapped any photo's so I'm unable to help with rego's.

DanS333
11th Feb 2014, 02:28
Fandangledsome more have gone?
I used to regularly drive through a little place called Teddywaddy in Vic' that had what looked like a few old doves mostly intact and a number of other aircraft in the yards of a private property. They have all since disappeared but some are still visible on Google Maps.
Does anyone know where they may have gone? not into scrap I hope.
Sorry I've never stopped and snapped any photo's so I'm unable to help with rego's.


I believe they would be Dick Winterburns, he has moved to Heathcote
deelictaircraftmuseum (http://thederelictaircraftmuseum-com.webs.com/)
His collection is open to the public on saturdays, details are on his website. I also have photos of his doves on the Dove preservation group website:)

Cheers, Dan

Unleashed V12s
26th Aug 2017, 23:58
I believe there is one at tocumwal
VH-OBI

There is one in Tocumwal, moved off the airfeild now as the hanger it was stored in was litteralyl falling down, but it is currently being done up