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MagnusP
3rd Oct 2013, 13:29
After some discussion on another thread, I had a wee look at the prices in a pub near here which carries a small but select range of international beers. The first that caught my eye was a US brew called Goose Island Madame Rose at 6.5% abv for 11 a bottle. Even more eye-opening was another US brew, Ale Smith IPA at 7.25% for 15. They, however, paled into insignificance beside a Belgian beer called Deus Brut de Flanders at 11.5% for 29.95 a bottle. 30 quid? That's where I'd start looking for a half-decent bottle of wine in a restaurant, FFS!

Anyone here tried any of the above brews, and are they worth it?

lomapaseo
3rd Oct 2013, 13:31
The ratings seem to track the number of bottles drunk per unit time

Solid Rust Twotter
3rd Oct 2013, 13:34
No such thing as expensive beer.

handsfree
3rd Oct 2013, 13:39
It all depends on how far you've walked but at 30 quid I think I'd keep on walking.

goudie
3rd Oct 2013, 13:51
Bloody expensive round! :(

rgbrock1
3rd Oct 2013, 13:55
Magnus:

I had the opportunity of drinking the Goose Island Madame Rose "brew" you listed. (Here in the States it's 7.10% ABV. Dunno where you saw the lesser ABV.)

To call this stuff beer is misleading. It doesn't look like beer, it doesn't smell like beer and it certainly doesn't taste like beer.

It is tasty, I'll admit. But then again, so is Robitussin cough syrup.

Madame Rose drinks more like a port wine or liquor than it does like a beer. It has light carbonation and tastes like a glass of liquid cherries! Albeit very bitter/tart cherries.

Is it worth the $$$$? Not in my opinion.

Dak Man
3rd Oct 2013, 14:22
Could be a cheap way to get tight as a drum.

How many pints of Guinness would 30 quid buy me in Central London today?:confused:

The SSK
3rd Oct 2013, 14:38
DeuS is brewed just up the road from me. Never tried it, though.

My local supermarket usually has it in stock. On my next trip (which may be this evening) I shall check on the retail price and report back.

The bottles are big (75cl) - I guess you know that. It's marketed as a beery answer to champagne.

You've seen the website. I suppose.
Welcome to Bosteels Brewery (http://www.bestbelgianspecialbeers.be/main_eng.html)

MagnusP
3rd Oct 2013, 14:42
rgb, as I no longer indulge in the demon drink, I'll probably never find out; thanks for the input, though.

Incidentally, I'd never heard of Robitussin until Moby Grape came along and, in Hey Grandma, sang "Robitussin makes you feel so fine; Robitussin and elderberry wine". I've swallowed a lot of beer over the years while listening to Moby Grape.

rgbrock1
3rd Oct 2013, 14:43
MagnusP wrote:

rgb, as I no longer indulge in the demon drink, I'll probably never find out

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:

I'd rather be dead, truth be told.

MagnusP
3rd Oct 2013, 14:44
I'm kinda feeling that way myself, rgb.

The SSK
3rd Oct 2013, 14:47
I suppose one coping strategy is to look for the highest prices you can find and work out your potential savings.

Another coping strategy is DON'T GO INTO PUBS

superq7
3rd Oct 2013, 14:49
I signed up with a new doctor recently and filled out a questionnaire in which I said I drink three pints of beer twice a week, I then received a phone call from the doctor she says that I am a binge drinker !

rgbrock1
3rd Oct 2013, 14:52
Binge drinker? If that makes you a binge drinker I guess I'm screwed!

500N
3rd Oct 2013, 14:56
Super

Lucky she wasn't around at my School in the UK, House bar only open
Wed evenings and Saturday nights, 90% of us would have been classed
binge drinkers.

The "better' drinkers were minimum 8 - 9 pints and a couple 9 - 12 pints
in the small time available.

The SSK
3rd Oct 2013, 15:11
'Bout the same for me, three pints twice a week.

On the other days, I'm a binge drinker :E

rgbrock1
3rd Oct 2013, 15:24
Nope. No binge drinking for me. 3 x 12oz. glasses, or bottles, of lager (preferably Spaten) per night. Not a bottle more. Not a bottle less. Consistency is thy name.

Dak Man
3rd Oct 2013, 15:42
Drink little to no alcohol these days.

I just don't like the vast majority of it.

When I do imbibe it's Guinness or when not available, cider.

I'm not proud of it but some of my drinking exploits were stuff of legend, I once drank 21 pints of Guinness in a 12 hour session on a rugby trip in Ireland then drove the tour bus to the hotel as the driver was poleaxed - sweet as a nut. I had this uncanny ability to never appear drunk even when I was three sheets laid to the wind. Sadly, drinking and driving became almost habitual for me but fortunately for me and more so those around me I never hurt anybody doing it, other I know were not quite so fortunate.

You'll be happy to know that I've not done it for years.

The SSK
3rd Oct 2013, 15:43
Hmmm, one of the big local speciality beer shops sells DeuS for 29. If the supermarket is cheaper it won't be by much.

maybe that's no more than a reasonable mark-up your pub is charging, Marcus

flying lid
3rd Oct 2013, 20:26
You don't buy Beer, you rent it !!!!!!!!

Lid

radeng
3rd Oct 2013, 20:33
superq7

One wonders where she (or even if!) studied medicine. Having on a few occasions met medical students......

or is it 'do as I say, not as I do'.

The diabetes specialist said I shouldn't drink too much, but a poor quality of life was very bad for life expectancy.....he asked if I abused alcohol and I said yes, especially Buttwiper, Watney's and Arkell's.. Apparently that wasn't what he was thinking of in the context.....

gupta
3rd Oct 2013, 23:09
The old definition of an alcoholic was someone who drank more than their doctor

Krystal n chips
4th Oct 2013, 05:25
" I said yes, especially Buttwiper, Watney's and Arkell's.. Apparently that wasn't what he was thinking of in the context....".

To be fair, with regard to the second you mention, the doctor does have a valid point....even more so if you also mentioned Double Diamond in the same breath ?...:p

Frankly, if you are actually daft enough to spend a ludicrous amount of money on a bottle of wine / beer, then you do need medical help...the contents have to same effect irrespective of the price.

G-BMML
4th Oct 2013, 10:15
Try going in to any "brew dog" pub an ask for a TNP or a "sink the bismark. Both cost 5 per 25ml measure! Now that is a lot of dosh for an english spirit measure of beer!

G-CPTN
4th Oct 2013, 11:27
TNP (http://www.masterofmalt.com/beer/brewdog-tactical-nuclear-penguin-375cl-beer/).

Sink the Bismark (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1354411/Worlds-strongest-beer-Sink-The-Bismarck-goes-sale-55-bottle.html).

cattletruck
4th Oct 2013, 12:37
I signed up with a new doctor recently and filled out a questionnaire in which I said I drink three pints of beer twice a week, I then received a phone call from the doctor she says that I am a binge drinker !

The guidelines say something along the lines of a glass of wine a day is considered healthy. Chances are she doesn't drink beer and cannot differentiate between it and wine. Next time just vomit on her head.

Here in Australia I barely drink beer because the taste has been ruined and it has become expensive. At least our wines are reasonable in price and taste.

I make up for it by visiting my local village in summer and settling down for dinner at 10pm, drinking between 1L and 3L every evening of my new favourite larger Fix Hellas Beer at 2 Euro for a 500ml bottle. :ok:

rgbrock1
4th Oct 2013, 12:42
cattletruck wrote:

Here in Australia I barely drink beer because the taste has been ruined and it has become expensive. At least our wines are reasonable in price and taste.

As for the beer tasty lousy you can thank AB-InBev for that.

As for Aussie wines? That's all the Mrs. drinks. I never connected Australia with good wine. However, after sipping a few which the Mrs. prefers I changed my thinking. Aussie has some really good wines. And not expensive either. :ok:

cattletruck
4th Oct 2013, 12:56
RGB,

Listening to my favourite food show on radio (Eat It, 3RRR) I heard Australian popular wines described as Frankenstein wines because Australia was first to approach quality wine making on a mass scale using scientific methods. The large vineyard/brands now use equipment to make wine that looks like it came from an oil refinery. This approach put Australian wines on the world map in the mid 90's as a moderately priced above average drop, with the side effect of reducing the reputation of the few true Australian fine wines that were already being sold at a premium price world wide.

probes
4th Oct 2013, 13:08
I never hurt anybody doing it
that's truly and highly commendable, Dak - drunk driving is a real no-no! :E

OK, gentlemen, I'm feeling sorry for you, just right now having a couple of red house beers - what a coincidence, isn't it. :uhoh:
P.S between two buses, so I will not sin, Dak!

rgbrock1
4th Oct 2013, 13:12
probes:

You're currently drinking Red House beer between two buses?
:eek::eek::eek:

I hope the drivers don't come back anytime soon. Otherwise we might have a smushed probes on our hands. :}

MagnusP
4th Oct 2013, 13:16
rgb: "bus" might, of course, be a different beer, so that's OK.

probes
4th Oct 2013, 15:53
:ouch: serves me right (revenge for Dak), rgb!

No, Magnus, just one type of favorite red beer (on the tap of course), having come from one bus and before taking another. :cool: I wish I had a barrel or so at home.
Or maybe not :hmm:...

Tankertrashnav
4th Oct 2013, 15:54
I used to go in a "real ale" pub with a couple of mates who were really into the stuff. When asked what I wanted I'd invariably scan the labels and much to their despair pick the one with the lowest alcoholic content, in spite of their attempts to get me to try a pint of Old Shepherd's Scrotum, or whatever that week's special was! In the old days pubs used to sell "boy's beer" which I guess was what I was drinking. Never liked barley wines, etc, which are always far too sweet for my taste - if I'm going to shift up to that sort of alcoholic content I'll be drinking wine, or more likely I'll bypass it and move straight on to a gin and tonic.

radeng
4th Oct 2013, 16:02
How do they get such a high ABV? I didn't think there were any yeasts that could survive above about 17%.

probes
4th Oct 2013, 16:10
I'm with you, Tt. There was a doc about some guys who made 40 (or so) beer, various tricks (incl. freezing and defreezing to rise the alcohol content) used - why, one would wonder.
Btw, I got the British "Spotted Chicken" - or something like that - beer last week, quite good.
(I hope it will not ruin my reputation... liking it, I mean :uhoh:.)

radeng
4th Oct 2013, 16:34
probes

Do you mean 'Old Speckled Hen'?

If you like that, you are demonstrating good taste.

probes
4th Oct 2013, 17:35
Gosh, must have been :\! :p
Me being as old as the speckled hen, I guess - :ouch:.
Well, I remembered the basics, anyway?

rgbrock1
4th Oct 2013, 18:01
probes:

You being as old as the speckled hen? I would think not.
It certainly doesn't appear that way. :)

Super VC-10
4th Oct 2013, 18:05
Anyone who likes proper cider would do well to visit Middle Farm, Selmeston, East Sussex. They have a large range of ciders and perrys for sale to take home. Located on the A27 between Lewes and Polegate. Prices from 1.70 to over 3 a pint.

gingernut
4th Oct 2013, 18:20
Here in EGCC land, we have a couple of good outlets. Surprisingly, "Booths" supermarket stocks a good range of bottled beers, reasonable to. Our local "Sammie Smiths" house serves a rather well kept bitter. 1.80 a pint, and damn fine it is to.

The prices quoted seem a little "daft." There would probably be a riot if those price were charged here up North.:)

gingernut
4th Oct 2013, 18:27
Old Speckled Hen is always good to cook with.....
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v617/gingernut123/DSC_0005_zps4b0144de.jpg

rgbrock1
4th Oct 2013, 18:28
Super VC-10 wrote:

Anyone who likes proper cider would do well to visit Middle Farm, Selmeston, East Sussex. They have a large range of ciders and perrys for sale to take home. Located on the A27 between Lewes and Polegate.

Hm. Sounds good. And I would certainly like to sample the wares.

One question though. Is there a connecting road from Sherman, Connecticut to the A27 between Lewes and Polegate? :}:}

tdracer
4th Oct 2013, 21:53
I was in Shanghai a couple months ago - a group of Boeing types for business.

At the end of a long day several of us went to the hotel bar for a beer. I picked up that tab.

For 10 beers, it was 900 Yuan - about 10 Pounds/15 dollars per beer :eek:

And it wasn't even very good beer :sad:

Super VC-10
5th Oct 2013, 05:49
No connecting road, but it's not too far from EGKK :ok:

glad rag
5th Oct 2013, 09:34
I don't like strong beers to be honest, too much going on in the background for my liking.

Exeter Arms in Rutland Picturesque Country Pub (http://www.exeterarmsrutland.co.uk/micro-brewery-2135.html)

this was my local during my time on the jump line at Cottesmore, very drinkable English ales indeed, puts the Scots rubbish to shame I have to say.....:{

dubbleyew eight
5th Oct 2013, 10:00
in thailand once I enjoyed Hopus belgian beer while the rest got slightly schickered on wine. horrendous price but nice. still have the wire and creamic stoppered bottles on the door ledge.

that one was worth it.

Lon More
5th Oct 2013, 10:08
If you can afford that much, keep it cold with these expensive Beer Chillers (http://www.firebox.com/product/6155/Chillsner-Beer-Cooler?itc=525&utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=DIETCHOC_634&src_t=nwt&src_id=634&via=NL_row&NL_pos=1)

OverRun
5th Oct 2013, 11:24
Thanks for the beer chiller link Lon More. Very tempting. I have long maintained to my (non-Australian) wife that serving warm beer is a fundamental ground for divorce. So far she has believed me . . . .

radeng
5th Oct 2013, 12:46
There was a brewery called Tennants (not Tennents) in Sheffield: they also had one in Leeds. It was a very nice, creamy pint, but Whitbread bought them in 1964 and put their own crap beer in. Sad.....

Solid Rust Twotter
5th Oct 2013, 13:20
...serving warm beer is a fundamental ground for divorce...


As is serving frozen gnat's piss.

gibbo568
5th Oct 2013, 14:40
Tried the Tactical Nuclear Penguin once in Edinburgh, didn't like it, too much like a spirit!
On the other hand, Bitter and Twisted from Harviestoun Brewery is great, as is Deuchars IPA (Caledonian Brewery) or Trash Blond or Punk IPA from Brew Dogs.
Closer to (my) home, Loweswater Gold from the Kirkstile Inn, but you will not get that from many supermarkets!

There are loads of different beers around now, much more than a few years ago, and I'm having trouble finding time to try them all!

Serve them cool, NOT frozen, the only time to drink a frozen beer is when you don't want to taste what you are drinking!

Super VC-10
5th Oct 2013, 17:39
BTW, my New Year'r resolution, which I've made (and kept) every year since I turned 18, is this:-

I hereby resolve, every month, to try at least one new beer which, to the best of my knowledge, I've not had before. :)