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rgbrock1
24th Sep 2013, 14:23
Although there are a lot of good American westerns out there I'd say my favorite is "Horse Soldiers" starring John Wayne and William Holden.

What's yours?

Molemot
24th Sep 2013, 14:30
"Stagecoach", every time!

superq7
24th Sep 2013, 14:38
Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid 1969 excellent :ok:

500N
24th Sep 2013, 14:45
I think tastes change.

Butch Cassidy was an awesome film.

I love Clint Eastwood movies even though not true Westerns.

Standard Noise
24th Sep 2013, 14:55
Blazing Saddles. :}

or the original True Grit.

SASless
24th Sep 2013, 15:09
There are so many great ones....but we have to decide what is a "Western".

The Searchers is a classic.

Littlest Big Man was great.

Dances with Wolves was very good.

She Wore a Yellow Ribbon ranks right up there.

Fort Apache

The Rounders is probably the funniest.

True Grit (Original version)....you must read the book to understand why.

Tombstone

Wyatt Earp

The Shootist......John Wayne's Best Film.

vulcanised
24th Sep 2013, 15:18
Another Butch Cassidy vote.

Dak Man
24th Sep 2013, 15:18
1. The Wild Bunch
2. Outlaw Josey Wales
3. Unforgiven

dazdaz1
24th Sep 2013, 15:49
I have two......

1) Soldier Blue 1970
2) The Culpepper Cattle Company 1972

Daz

11Fan
24th Sep 2013, 15:49
Gotta be Silverado for me.

Silverado (1985) - IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0090022/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1)

tony draper
24th Sep 2013, 15:53
Love Westerns and am something of a connoisseur
The Wild Bunch
Pat Garret and Billy the Kid,
More recent ones,
Appaloosa.
Open Range
Unforgiven
Too many others to name
Last but not least not a movie but a series
Lonesome Dove.
:)

Shack37
24th Sep 2013, 15:53
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance

and just about any James Stewart western.

beaufort1
24th Sep 2013, 15:55
The Magnificent Seven, if it's a Western. :8

dazdaz1
24th Sep 2013, 16:08
Tony........."Love Westerns and am something of a connoisseur" Test....One minute from this post.

True Grit, name of horse.
Roster Cogburn, name of horse

Daz
Presuming your still on line

tony draper
24th Sep 2013, 16:09
Dollar.:)........
Have to say I never rated John Wayne very highly apart from his last two,True Grit and the shootist
PS just watched Hombre,there is a glaring mistake in the final shoot out scene when Mr Newman gets plugged after shooting the baddies,well perhaps not a mistake but they probably figured nobody but a Western Nerd would spot it.
:rolleyes:

dazdaz1
24th Sep 2013, 16:11
Tony...No, your thinking Clint

True Grit....'Beau'
Rooster Cogburn....Bull

Having said that, do you know where the 39 steps are?

tony draper
24th Sep 2013, 16:21
Hmmm,
In his later westerns, he used three horses , "Beau", "Dollor" (also referred to as "Ol' Dollor"), and "Dollar". The name "Dollor" is apparantly taken from the Spanish word "Dolor", meaning "pain" or "sorrow". "Beau" and "Dollor" both appeared in the film "True Grit". Beau can be seen jumping the fence with Wayne in the final scene
Dollar got shot and fell on his leg.
:rolleyes:

dazdaz1
24th Sep 2013, 16:26
Thanks for info Tony, have to log off now.

Regards

Daz

treadigraph
24th Sep 2013, 16:26
'Nother vote for Silverado...

chuks
24th Sep 2013, 16:56
"Unforgiven" is far and away the best Western ever, in my opinion.

Sultan Ismail
24th Sep 2013, 17:03
My vote is for "The Magnificent Seven" as a Romantic Western
and "Shane" as an "as it was" Western
Hope that's not too complicated :bored:

vulcanised
24th Sep 2013, 17:43
Talking of TV westerns, I used to enjoy Alias Smith & Jones, which obviously inspired Mel and Griff with their title.

BenThere
24th Sep 2013, 17:55
The classic Westerns are all morality plays. The good guys fight with honor, stand up to thugs, uphold the rule of law, right wrongs, etc.

Not much of an audience for that these days. Thankfully, most of the classic celluloid has been converted to digital.

I also liked "Shane", and "The Alamo", along with all the others previously mentioned. When Hollywood set about defining the taming of the Wild West for us, they did a pretty good job, though they made up a lot of it. Today, Hollywood generally puts out morbid, violent, hypersexualized filler. The art is lost.

Watched any "Gunsmoke" episodes lately? The essential elements of real art are there in the scripts, and the intercourse (in the polite sense) between Matt and Miss Kitty are sublime, though the production and effects are obviously dated. Interestingly, the bit actors appearing in old television dramas are often recognizable as more than a few later became superstars. Steve McQueen, Robert Redford and the like.

Tankertrashnav
24th Sep 2013, 18:20
Another vote for the original True Grit here. I never agreed with the received opinion that Glenn Campbell was an awful actor - I thought he was fine in that film, but obviously I was in a minority as he didnt go on to a film career.

BenThere, Your ref to Gunsmoke made me think of all the TV Westerns which were our regular diet as kids in the 50s and 60s. Think Clint Eastwood had an early role as the scout (Flint McCullough?) in Rawhide. My mum loved Wagon Train as I think she really fancied Ward Bond!

tony draper
24th Sep 2013, 18:36
Ere Rowdy Yates I think Mr Tanker,all those TV Westerns are available on youtube,watched a few 'Have Gun Will Travel' a while back.
:)

angels
24th Sep 2013, 18:46
Yip, and me for True Grit. Also, the Magnificent Seven, corny, but wonderful.

Sadly, my view of the classic western was tainted by reading Bury My Heart at Wounded Knee (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bury_My_Heart_at_Wounded_Knee). An unbelievably sad and moving book about what was, in effect, genocide.

Oh, and I love virtually all spaghetti westerns, especially with Ennio Morricone music.

A Fistful of Dynamite - Duck, You Sucker! - Scenes - YouTube

Noah Zark.
24th Sep 2013, 18:56
Although it has a humorous overall slant, "The Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean", starring Paul Newman & Ava Gardner gets my vote.

Cacophonix
24th Sep 2013, 18:57
Oh, and I love virtually all spaghetti westerns, especially with Ennio Morricone music.


Amen to that. :ok:

Also anything with Bud Spencer and Terence Hill in it. Usually atrocious but always good fun...


Boot Hill - Terence Hill, Bud Spencer 1969 - YouTube

Caco

West Coast
24th Sep 2013, 19:01
Definitely Blazing Saddles.

More beans Mr Taggert?

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R6dm9rN6oTs&desktop_uri=%2Fwatch%3Fv%3DR6dm9rN6oTs

603DX
24th Sep 2013, 19:07
Not really my favourite, (that was Butch Cassidy), but this one made me laugh, and that's no bad thing perhaps:

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racedo
24th Sep 2013, 19:30
Hondo
Shane

FlyingOfficerKite
24th Sep 2013, 20:00
My Top Ten (not necessarily in order):

The Outlaw Josey Wales
Unforgiven
Tombstone
The Good, The Bad and The Ugly
Soldier Blue
A Fistful of Dollars
A Few Dollars More
The Magnificent Seven
Pale Rider
The Alamo (must have one with John Wayne!)

Slightly biased towards Clint, but others besides!

At a tangent - the best line for me in a Western is Clint and his mule (when he asks the bandits to apologise to his mule before he shoots them)

vulcanised
24th Sep 2013, 20:46
Musn't forget Support your local Gunfighter/Sheriff, or pretty well any western James Garner was in.

Takan Inchovit
24th Sep 2013, 20:50
Texas across the river. Bit of everything in that one.

A A Gruntpuddock
24th Sep 2013, 21:38
Hombre - great film.

Cacophonix
24th Sep 2013, 21:42
A Fist Full of Dynamite...

"Now you are just a naked son of a b#tch"

"There's a hole in the roof..."

"Short fuse!"

"Duck you sucker..."

Excellent stuff... Just watching the movie again for the second time in 30 years. Thanks for the reminder angels... ;)

Caco

Loose rivets
24th Sep 2013, 21:56
I've had to ask before, but what was the film that started with the squeaky sign at the railway station?

tony draper
24th Sep 2013, 22:08
Once upon a time in the West? good sound track read somewhere the film had been remixed so it makes a bit more sense now, never rated any of the spaggetti westerns very high,Eastwood started to make some good Westerns when he returned to Hollywood,much preferred his remake of Shane,'Pale Rider' to the original.
:)

500N
24th Sep 2013, 22:30
"I've had to ask before, but what was the film that started
with the squeaky sign at the railway station?"

Isn't that a Clint movie ?

Then he walks out with his shawl on, puts a cheroot in his mouth ?

pj67coll
24th Sep 2013, 22:37
The Outlaw Josey Wales.
The Good the Bad and the Ugly.
Unforgiven
True Grit - the remake.
Aw hell. It's almost pointless. One could go on for ever as I like most of em.

- Peter.

500N
24th Sep 2013, 22:39
"Aw hell. It's almost pointless. One could go on for ever as I like most of em."

+ 1

:ok:

cavortingcheetah
24th Sep 2013, 22:45
Seven Brides for Seven Brothers?

racedo
24th Sep 2013, 22:53
Also Broken Arrow................

cavortingcheetah
24th Sep 2013, 23:29
Unfortunately Pollyanna wasn't but Shane was.

tony draper
24th Sep 2013, 23:36
How come there were never any Cowboy Movies based in California,pretty far West that place is?
:)

TWT
24th Sep 2013, 23:36
Another vote for Silverado

500N
24th Sep 2013, 23:38
"Movies based in California,pretty far West that place is"

How many "gay" Westerns do you want ? :O

cavortingcheetah
24th Sep 2013, 23:44
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/4/4b/Goldrush2.jpg/220px-Goldrush2.jpg

pigboat
25th Sep 2013, 00:13
High Noon
The Alamo
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
Stagecoach
All of Eastwood's spaghetti westerns
True Grit
Cat Ballou

As for tv shows, how about Bonanza and Have Gun Will Travel?

Damn, looks like I like oaters. :ok:

CoodaShooda
25th Sep 2013, 00:36
Gotta be Cactus Jack :E

gupta
25th Sep 2013, 00:48
Barbarosa - with Willie Nelson

SASless
25th Sep 2013, 01:18
Not one vote for "The Cowboys".....am shocked!

Then there is my favorite gunfight movie...."Open Range".

We cannot forget "Broken Trail"....excellent movie.

Classic....."High Noon".

PLovett
25th Sep 2013, 01:32
Love Westerns and am something of a connoisseur
The Wild Bunch
Pat Garret and Billy the Kid,
More recent ones,
Appaloosa.
Open Range
Unforgiven
Too many others to name
Last but not least not a movie but a series
Lonesome Dove.


Gotta be with Mr D on this one. Especially with 2 Sam Peckinpah films at the head of the list, a man who knew how to make a proper western, and the best film of the lot in first place.

Never really a fan of the Wayne western as the cliches just came too thick and fast although his latter ones were a distinct improvement on the earlier stuff.

Knowing that PPRuNe'rs are the font of all wisdom on such matters, can anyone tell me the name of the western that was about a young man who was on the run from a father and son because he had killed another son in a fight. He meets up with a man and his daughter and he travels with them, gradually falling for the daughter. Film ends with a huge fight where remaining son is badly burnt (I think), father realises the death of his first son was not young man's fault and that his bitterness has nearly caused the death of his remaining son.

RJM
25th Sep 2013, 02:04
No order

Ride the High Country
The Assassination of Jesse James
Unforgiven
Pat Garrett and Bily the Kid
Fort Apache

pigboat
25th Sep 2013, 02:42
Almost forgot this one...
Bad Day At Black Rock.

reynoldsno1
25th Sep 2013, 05:27
The Stalking Moon with Gregory Peck & Eve Marie-Saint (I think) - came out in the early 70's. Scared the sh*t out of me - very tense nearly all the way through. Have never found it on DVD...

... until just now ...:ok:

obgraham
25th Sep 2013, 05:28
One-Eyed Jacks

"get up, ya scum-suckin pig."

Westerns have always been about the times the movie was made in, told through a story set in the Old West. So they went through the same evolution as the rest of our culture. I like the 50's and 60's westerns the best. A more gentle and innocent time.

Ascend Charlie
25th Sep 2013, 05:35
On the humorous side:

Waterhole #13 (James Coburn)

A Big Hand for a Little Lady (Henry Fonda, very clever plot.)

Cyber Bob
25th Sep 2013, 07:58
The Outlaw Josey Wales get's my vote

"Don't pi$$ down my back and tell me it's raining" - a truely great line.

Blazing Saddles is worthy of note too!

Mac the Knife
25th Sep 2013, 10:21
"Once Upon a Time in the West" - in the original uncut version (1968).

The ultimate Western statement.

Mac

:ok:

A bum-numbing 4 hours as I recall...

treadigraph
25th Sep 2013, 10:35
Four hours! I get restless after two...

Haven't been to the cinema in years, do they still have an intermmisison in longer films?

dfdasein
25th Sep 2013, 11:09
The Big Country

William Wyler director (Ben Hur)
Peck, Heston, Burl Ives (Oscar)

The Big Country Trailer (1958) - YouTube

tony draper
25th Sep 2013, 11:29
Last Western I saw at a Cinema,Gabby Haise got the girl.
Does the lady still come round with a tray selling ice lollies and choc ices?
:rolleyes:

Jaxon
25th Sep 2013, 11:31
Big Jake
The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly
Dances with Wolves
Silverado
The Sons of Katie Elder

727gm
25th Sep 2013, 12:18
My Name is Nobody
Silverado
True Grit

Nick Riviera
25th Sep 2013, 12:29
Texas across the river. Bit of everything in that one.

Was going to be my choice. Thought nobody remembered it but me.

MagnusP
25th Sep 2013, 12:55
All of the above, really, plus my award for dramatic western goes to The Wild Bunch, for comedy Support Your Local Sheriff, for quirkiness Quigley Down Under, and for a blatant ripoff of Taming of the Shrew, anything featuring John Wayne and Maureen O'Hara (even the Quiet Man counts, 'cos it's set in the west, albeit of Ireland). ;)

chiglet
25th Sep 2013, 23:39
The Sheepman, with Glen Ford
Cat Ballou
Pale Rider
El Dorado
Carry on Cowboy
to name a few

tony draper
25th Sep 2013, 23:59
Sorry about the tardiness of the reply Mr PLovett,just remembered your question and been trying to think of the lead actor, just came to me Chill Wills,after that google helped, the movie you seek is this one I think,yer right twern't a bad oat opera.
From Hell to Texas (1958) - IMDb (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0051636/)
:)
Watched it at the Pal (Paladium) when it first came out,1/6d in old real money.

Cacophonix
26th Sep 2013, 00:05
Truth is, girls like the cowboy ethic...

Where Have All The Cowboys Gone - YouTube

Caco

tony draper
26th Sep 2013, 00:09
One of the best scenes from Judge Roy Bean :E
Life and Times of Judge Roy Bean: Bad Bob the Albino - YouTube

Gordon17
26th Sep 2013, 06:23
The Tin Star - Henry Fonda

SASless
26th Sep 2013, 13:56
Drapes.....

"A Hole in One"!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KPwF98twVLM

Lonewolf_50
26th Sep 2013, 14:01
How come there were never any Cowboy Movies based in California,pretty far West that place is?
:)
One Eyed Jacks, Marlon Brando. Set in California.

A single favorite western? Can't offer one.

Unforgiven gets a lot of stars for gritty realism and characters who are not larger than life.

A lot of the 50's and 60's westerns are enjoyable, but I like my movies with a little bit of a catch, or a twist. For my money, Chisum isn't as much to work with as Pat Garret and Bill the Kid.

Open Range was a nice ode to the Cowboy western, as opposed to the gunslinger and sherrif western.

Shane is one of the best ever made.

Silverado was a little too "pretty" for all that it was a good romp.

Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid was in part a send up of the Westerns of the previous 30 years, and was also based on the narrative of a couple of actual outlaws (though whether they ever got to Bolivia or Paraguay or Argentina remains a mystery).

The Spaghetti Westerns of Clint and Sergio retain a very special place in the genre.

The Outlaw Josey Wales was a bit too long, but it's presentation of post civil war western expansion hit a lot of true notes. Big down side was the presence of Sandra Locke in the film: never saw a film with her in it where her moody style didn't detract from the story. I think Clint was banging her, or married to her, at the time.

dfdasein
26th Sep 2013, 14:13
"When I say Bolivia you just think California" - Butch to Sundance.

At the end, when they are trapped and about to be filled with lead, Butch comes up with one last bright idea: "Australia!"

gassed budgie
26th Sep 2013, 14:35
Any of the westerns directed by John Ford or Howard Hawks. They just don't makem' like that any more!

KAG
26th Sep 2013, 15:06
Anything with Terence Hill and Bud Spencer... But that wouldn't be American...

tony draper
26th Sep 2013, 15:08
Did you know that Butch Cassidy's Mum was a Geordie lass from Tyneside? had she stayed at home he would have probably worked down the pit and raced pigeons at the weekend instead of robbing folks.
:rolleyes:
Couple of good ones with Burt Lancaster
Ulzana's Raid
Lawman

pj67coll
26th Sep 2013, 15:39
Looks like "The Rounders" was filmed in one of my wifes and my favorite places. Sedona and Flagstaff Arizona area. I guess I'll have to get it on DVD and check it out.

One of the things I like about living in Arizona is the constant reminder of the "old West" when you travel around here. When we drive up north from Phoenix on I17 you pass place names evocative of past times. "Horsetheif basin", "Bloody basin" etc.

- Peter.

Noah Zark.
26th Sep 2013, 16:23
Mr.D,
Re your post #71. Just excellent! That's why I think that film is the best!

con-pilot
26th Sep 2013, 19:06
"The Big, The Fat, and The Fuggly"

For some reason I don't think you're going to last here too long. :p

BenThere
27th Sep 2013, 03:20
Twenty-five or so years ago, living in Sacramento, I had a desire to seek out and discover old ghost towns, remote hot springs (natural spas), and other secrets of Northwestern Nevada on my Kawasaki KLR 650 enduro, adventure-equipped motorcycle.

I spent a few long weekends, with my girlfriend at the time, now long gone, by our campfire, coyotes howling, stars brighter than ever we had seen, sipping jugs of cheap red wine, and ever mindful of the scorpions and rattlesnakes plotting against us as we snuggled under the tent, tens of miles from the nearest anywhere.

I think those were the most cosmic, mystical experiences I've ever had.

PLovett
27th Sep 2013, 04:17
Thank you Mr D.

"From Hell To Texas" is certainly the film I was trying to remember. Only saw it the once so it must have made an impression.

tinpis
27th Sep 2013, 05:47
Have as yet to view but I hear True Grit " Cohen Bros version is good?
Yet to see Django as well.

Krystal n chips
27th Sep 2013, 06:20
Do any of Regan's addresses from the Oval Office count in the context of this thread at all ?.......:E

Mostly Harmless
27th Sep 2013, 06:22
Blazing Saddles

They Call Me Trinity

Trinity Is Still My Name

My Name is Nobody

Lonewolf_50
27th Sep 2013, 19:11
Cohen Brothers' True Grit is very good.

Recommended.

tony draper
27th Sep 2013, 20:21
Sadly they make few Westerns now but the ones they make tend to be a cut above the nineteen fifties fare,looking forward to seeing Blackthorn,tiz about the later life of Butch Cassidy, have to wait until it is on Telly though.
:)

Limeygal
27th Sep 2013, 20:44
Yet to see Django as well

Not a western in the true sense of the word and some of it is hard to watch-worth it though for the KKK attacking the wagon scene. Comical-who knew the KKK could be funny?

Aviator68
27th Sep 2013, 20:50
The Good, the Bad & the FUGLY!!!!;)

SASless
5th Oct 2013, 13:40
The American West of John Ford, Full Length Documentary - YouTube

MadsDad
5th Oct 2013, 17:39
Dum dum dee dum dee dee dee dee dum dum
Dum dum dee dum dee dee dee dee
Dum dum dee dum dee dee dee dee dum dum
Dah dah dee dum dum dah dah dah dee.
Twiddy bit.

"Where you from?".
Thumb over shoulder
"Where you heading?"
Finger points forward