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cattletruck
21st Sep 2013, 14:20
Talk like a pirate day some days ago reminded me I owe a pirate a favour.

Can anyone help me identify the value of the following coins found near and about a tiny Greek island (he also found an American quarter from the 1800s in the same place :ooh:).

http://arthurguru.users.sourceforge.net/extra/coins.jpg


I know there is an author who specialises in this area http://www.davidrsear.com/ but its of no use because its not written in pirate (and he can't read English too well).

Thanks,
Cattletruck.

RJM
21st Sep 2013, 14:23
Greek legal tender?

cattletruck
21st Sep 2013, 14:29
Personally RJM I wouldn't mind using real pieces of silver as legal tender than that Ponzian notation we use now.

Loose rivets
21st Sep 2013, 14:32
I often wonder how I would do things if I found myself back in time. Stamping out coins. Simple. Erm . . . I realize I don't know how they did it.


I think this is how I would have done it, but I had no idea of the quantity they produced, so my fiddling with one coin a week would have been somewhat inadequate.

How Roman Coins Were Made (http://www.celatorsart.com/coins_made.html)




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Aubrey.
21st Sep 2013, 16:45
I'm an antiques valuer, however I don't really do coins. From the photos it's hard to tell, but they appear to be genuine and not restrikes. I'd suggest you contact Spinks in London. They're the authority on all things coin related. Spink & Son (http://www.spink.com)

Noah Zark.
21st Sep 2013, 17:49
Just a few dubloons! :)

hval
21st Sep 2013, 22:51
Bronze 1a is a Roman coin, I think. I also think it is emperor Constatine. I believe it is worth about 35.

Silver 1a reminds me of a gold ducat from the 1400's from Lesbos. It is based on the Venetian gold ducat.

L-A is a 10 Lepta piece perhaps worth 10.

M-B is also a 10 Lepta piece.

I have seen F before, but cannot think where. It may not even have been a coin.

I am not an expert. Just did some google work, so I could be wrong.

Loose rivets
21st Sep 2013, 23:17
Aubrey, are you really? One would like your opinion on some stuff.

Now, suffice it to say, I'm nine sheets to the wind. Also, the stuff has gone. Bloke came from Hong Kong to buy my mum's chairs. It seemed there was just two people in the world that knew how lovely they were, and he was the other one.

My sideboard is now in St Osyth's priory. Just about 100 years old. Nice though. Sold everything for sixpence, so real valuation not required.

I do have a Gallo vase, vaze or vose - (depending on how posh you are) Nearly threw it in the trash, but the person formally known as the Rivetess hollered to save it. Funny little thing. The vase is odd too.

cattletruck
22nd Sep 2013, 01:12
Thanks Aubrey and hval,

I get the feeling that this pirate's sample is just teasing the waters and he aint shown me his prized collection yet.

A quick googoil on the 1800's American quarter reveals they are quite valuable, who would have known and wish I took a photo - I'd have to tell him to stop throwing them back in the sea when he comes across them.

Aubrey.
22nd Sep 2013, 01:39
Loose rivets - yes, I've added my website to my profile. Feel free to send a few pictures through and I'll take a look. Always happy to help out a fellow pruner :ok:

onetrack
22nd Sep 2013, 02:28
Cattletruck - I've just come back from a number of days on Samos which included a visit to the interesting, fairly new, but smallish Pythagorio Museum.
The Museum displays a Byzantine gold coin collection of 300 coins from the 7th century, that was only discovered by pure accident in 1983. The coin find led to the discovery of previously unknown archaelogical ruins.

The Eastern end of Samos is noted for regular finds of coin caches, from the 6th and 7th centuries, as the Persians overran the island.

You may get some more assistance by trawling the following site. Some of the first coins pictured, the ones with unmilled edges, are very old.

FORUM ANCIENT COINS (http://www.forumancientcoins.com/catalog/roman-and-greek-coins.asp?vpar=18&pos=0)

cattletruck
23rd Sep 2013, 01:35
Thanks for the link onetrack. What I'm seeing is the Geeek/Roman coins aren't worth that much even for their age, but the Microasian ones are worth plenty.

Glad you enjoyed Samos onetrack, our lot reside in the Mycenaean area known as Pylos-Nestora (named after King Nestor) but I haven't a clue if we originated from there. There are historical artifacts to be found everywhere in Greece, we had a plot of land which we recently sold that had a mass graveyard near one end where we kept finding skeletons, arrowheads, etc, the story goes like this:

The Bay of Navarino was the setting for the last great naval battle in history; it was here, on 20 October, 1827, that the English, French and Russian allies defeated the Turkish-Egyptian fleet, which was lying at anchor while the army of Ibrahim Pasha was ravaging the Peloponnese. The fleet had three times the number of ships and was vastly superior in firing power to the allies, but it was taken by surprise, trapped, and unable to maneuver, so that 6,000 of its men died; the allies, on the other hand, lost only 174. This battle definitively marked the end of the protracted Ottoman occupation of the Peloponnese: the blow to Turkish morale was immense, the Sultan was forced to negotiate, and Greek Independence was thus not far off.

However, my pirate friend found these coins in another nearby area that was used as a pit-stop as it was the halfway point between Venice and the Holy lands. Here's a picture of one of the fortresses in the area which is also one of my favorite swimming spots.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/d/d6/Methoni_castle_Burtzi.jpg/800px-Methoni_castle_Burtzi.jpg

There be lots of hidden treasure here to keep a pirate employed for a long time :ok: