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timmcat
14th Sep 2013, 13:17
I'm pretty sure we did this years ago and if its been done more recently I apologise, search not too efficient on the iPhone app.
Anyway, mine? A 1973 lime green Mini 850. Well, it wasn't really mine, it was my mothers but she never really got the chance to use it. Remembered fondly for many reasons but doing one too many handbrake turns in the snow whilst showing off to a girlfriend proved that lateral high speed impact of a rear wheel to a kerb really doesn't do the car much good at all.
Sorry mum.

dubbleyew eight
14th Sep 2013, 13:21
a 998cc Morris Mini Deluxe. great cars but too light and thus easy to lose grip and prang.

since I stopped driving minis and army trucks I haven't had a prang in 40 years now.

Cacophonix
14th Sep 2013, 13:26
A Triumph Herald. Driver's side door used to burst open due to chassis twist when cornering at faster than 25 miles an hour. Would never start in winter without much cursing, cleaning of distributor cap and a sound thrashing. Might just start without opening the bonnet in summer at the threat of a sound thrashing. Windows always fogged up so much that the car could have been used as an IR simulator.

Brilliant fun little car... ;)

Some cars just need a sound thrashing...

Basil thrashes his car - Fawlty Towers - BBC - YouTube

Caco

G-CPTN
14th Sep 2013, 13:33
http://i24.photobucket.com/albums/c19/GroupCaptain/Snetterton1965.jpg

wiggy
14th Sep 2013, 13:55
G-CPTN
:ok:

Ah, me as well.

Dark green job, F Reg. Not quite as well equipped in the lighting department as the one in your photo but mine did sterling service, even when the front wings had rotted through and the moss growing on the woodwork was in danger of being declared a SSSI. What fun I had with that car, especially the day when most of the wiring loom went up in smoke ..which just happened to be my last day at university and all of my wordly goods were in the back :ugh: - fortunately the fire didn't spread....(and after replacing the whole loom I got several more years out of the old girl)

They don't like them like that anymore......:hmm:

( oh yeah, looking at the picture I see mine wasn't the only one where the front number plate kept falling off....)

beaufort1
14th Sep 2013, 13:59
There are a couple of the above example in common usage on island along with a Morris Oxford estate. ;)
My first car was a Citroen Diane, 602cc of raw power generating 17 bhp.:rolleyes:
I still reckon it was the best car for the snow.:)

P6 Driver
14th Sep 2013, 14:11
Mid 70's. VW Beetle (6Volt). Bought in Germany for 80 Marks. Sold a year later for 50 Marks.

G-CPTN
14th Sep 2013, 14:22
When I first visited Germany there were 12 DM to the £.
Later on it changed to 4DM to the £.

Now it is about 2!

goudie
14th Sep 2013, 14:45
My first car was a 1937 rhd Chevrolet. I bought it when I was 21yrs old, from my mate's dad for £40 Being 21 and in the RAF was a bit of an obstacle when it came to insurance. I eventually managed to insure it 'Road Traffic Acts' ie 'Third Party Only' for £24 per annum. I was stationed at Scampton at the time and used to bomb up and down the A1/A15 to London at w/e's, charging 5 mates a quid each for the return journey.
Similar to this but not as shiny. Had to go, for something more economical, when I got married!http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/eb/1937_Chevrolet_4-Door_Sedan.jpg

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Dushan
14th Sep 2013, 14:56
http://i256.photobucket.com/albums/hh162/dushan_divjak/bef7600810a55941c4877e627240be72_zps0d2c1ad5.jpg

skua
14th Sep 2013, 14:57
Wolseley Hornet - Mk II, mind. I could never understand why the MOT inspector did not consider my bubblegum coated in dirty oil an appropriate repair technique for holes in the subframe.

G-CPTN
14th Sep 2013, 14:58
I was musing the other day about my 1936 MG that I owned from 1967 until I sold it in 1981.

When I bought it it was 'only' 31 years old (yet it seemed old), and it is 32 years since I sold it.


The perspective is puzzling.

ShyTorque
14th Sep 2013, 14:59
Had a couple of motorbikes first but my first car was a 1967 Singer Gazelle Mk VI. Drove it like a motorbike on its crossply tyres. It was easy to get the rear end out on corners but a bit of opposite lock held it nicely under control. Gas guzzler, though. Sold it for nothing, now some thirty six years later they are collecters' items because only very few were made and they were nice cars.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/shytorque/SingerGazelle_zps6b29de36.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/shytorque/media/SingerGazelle_zps6b29de36.jpg.html)

Bought a Triumph Spitfire next; with its swing axle it was even more "rear end swappable" than the Singer. As I quickly found out, because it snowed hard the day I collected it.

Cacophonix
14th Sep 2013, 15:01
Dushan

Looking at the smiling long haired personage in the front I was about to question your hippy past but then remembered you guys do left hand drive...;)

Caco

fenland787
14th Sep 2013, 15:13
Triumph Herald 948cc in a ghastly purple-ish colour.

Brill car, absolutely nothing you couldn't get to and fix with basic tools....which was just as well really.....

Groundgripper
14th Sep 2013, 15:20
1934 (mostly) Austin Ruby bought off a fellow undergraduate on the aero engineering course for £25. Managed to break the crankshaft while travelling betweeen Bristol and my parents' home in London. Crankshaft was repaired in the depths of winter working outside my mate's flat in Bristol in the snow. No wonder I only got an ordinary degree the following summer.:O

Finally sold it later in the summer when my parents got fed up with it leaking oil all over their driveway.

There's probably still a pile of Austin 7 spares in the basement of one of the students halls of residence in Bristol - I never did get round to picking them up.

Mind you, if they were in the same state as the rest of the car...:uhoh:

GG

603DX
14th Sep 2013, 16:10
1938 Austin Big 7, bought from an 'Arthur Daly' type dealer in Muswell Hill Broadway in 1961, for £20. He had been lumbered with it on a part-exchange deal, and had optimistically put '£25' stickers on the windscreen. As I walked around it, kicking the tyres and rocking it in the hope of detecting at least some damping, he eyed me up and down and took pity on me, dressed in a 'war-surplus' duffel coat and long flapping UCL scarf which indicated hard-up student. He knocked a fiver off, and even gave me a push start since the battery was flat as a pancake. Stout fellow!

38 Austin Big Seven (1938-39) | Flickr - Photo Sharing! (http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/6344269596/)

I had over a year of (fairly) reliable service from it, although the non-hydraulic drum brakes would never have passed the MoT test, which fortunately was years ahead. And the starter solenoid switch, operated by a Bowden cable, had to be pulled by a substituted piece of string when the cable frayed and broke. Daily transport from my lodgings to the college for one engineering, one physics and one chemistry undergrad was thus available at bargain basement cost, and a surprising number of student nurses managed to cram in for the less serious side of Uni life. Parked every day right outside our college in Gower Street, with no yellow lines, no parking meters, and no wardens - all these were horrors yet to come. Absolute bliss!

Blues&twos
14th Sep 2013, 16:31
Tundra green Mini Clubman estate, N reg. Had a colony of woodlice living in the passenger footwell and moss all around the edges of the rear side windows. Very reliable, easy to maintain, but I wrote it off in the rain one evening into the sides of two parked cars.....

Ozzy
14th Sep 2013, 16:42
Mustard yellow Mini 850, don't remember the year

Ozzy

dazdaz1
14th Sep 2013, 16:54
My first was a Vauxhall Victor FB but get this...........With a floor gear change. Majority of the Victors had a column gear change.

Daz

gruntie
14th Sep 2013, 16:56
A 1960 Ford Anglia. Boringly simple, in common with others of that vintage it just rusted away.

But if we're talking second cars - a 1956 Slough-built (so RHD, and rare) Citroen 2CV. It was only 475cc but the rings had gone on one cylinder so only 212½ of them worked. And it was purely and simply awful: as a vehicle it had nothing to redeem it whatsoever, and I cannot understand how the damn things went on to be so popular.

Charlie Foxtrot India
14th Sep 2013, 17:18
Ford Escort mark 1 estate.

"Lizzie" because my Dad said all fords were tinny, so she was Tin Lizzie.

Great uni car. Got 14 of us in it coming home from the pub one night. :D

Discorde
14th Sep 2013, 17:37
1957 Ford Prefect 100E side valve.
Black (with rust spots).
Bought it in 1968 for £25.
Used lots of oil and water (leaking rad - in winter, draining rad was cheaper than buying antifreeze).
Speedo didn't work.
3 forward gears, no synchromesh on 1st.
Reversing light (operated manually).
Heater (operative).
Front fog light (inop).
Did home (nr London) to Leeds & return a few times - it never let me down.
Sold it in 1969 for £35

A year or two later the reggie would have been worth several times the value of the car - when I sold the car Boeing had just flown their Big Beast prototype.

http://steemrok.com/prefect%207447F%20sm

ORAC
14th Sep 2013, 17:45
http://www.productioncars.com/send_file.php/toyota_1000_red_1976.jpg

LGS6753
14th Sep 2013, 18:06
1961 Ford Anglia 105E

then

1968 Austin 1300 2dr

then

1969 Mini 1000 with sun roof:cool:

Krystal n chips
14th Sep 2013, 18:09
Mini Clubman Estate 850.....came complete with wood and...moss.

Indicator stalk worked as intended....other than the light on the end which resolutely refused to illuminate unless it was damp / wet outside.

Nice little car which provided enough room to sleep in, in certain Welsh pub car parks around Snowdonia....this was "a long time ago" aka the 70's to save anybody asking, and always at weekends.

The subsequent upgrade as it were to a Triumph 1500 (saloon ) came as a quantum leap however in terms of performance and interior finish. Walnut veneer with, at the time, a very useful CWP right where you could see it in the middle of the dash.

And that really useful feature....main beam controlled from the stalk, not a hopeful prod at a pedal on the floor !

Wodrick
14th Sep 2013, 18:19
First two don't really count

Mum's Hillman Imp GTB404F - put that in Hollingworth Lake, understeer in the wet !

Mum's Sunbeam Imp Sport PTB726G liked that.

My real first car 1071 Mini Cooper S 9631NU

G-CPTN
14th Sep 2013, 18:34
a very useful CWP right where you could see it in the middle of the dash.:confused:

Molemot
14th Sep 2013, 18:39
1947 MG TC. It came as a variegated pile of parts in tea chests...in my family, if you wanted an interesting car, you had to build it; no money for modern stuff back in 1966! Took me several years and ended up with a supercharger fitted, too.....wish I still had it. I remember buying a new crankshaft for £8 12/6d complete with all the bearings.....

oopspff7
14th Sep 2013, 18:45
Purple Ford Anglia with a rebuilt 1200cc engine.Reg XCA 667.It lasted for the first year of Uni and then departed to the scrapyard in the sky.

Krystal n chips
14th Sep 2013, 18:51
G-CPTN....why confused ?...the CWP was segmented with all the possible warnings displayed in the various segments.....nice bit of kit ! :ok:

G-CPTN
14th Sep 2013, 19:17
Combined/Central Warning P . . . ?

Maxbert
14th Sep 2013, 19:19
Renault Clio 1.7 RT first generation, probably the last car to legally roll off an assembly line with a double carb, all subsequent models had a bored-out 1.8 with EFI and a catalytic converter.

IIRC I picked her up new from the garage in 1993, Mammabert occasionally still drives her today, not even 70,000 Km on the clock.

I installed a totally wicked sound system in her back then, were both young :(

Maxbert

G-CPTN
14th Sep 2013, 19:24
Combined/Central Warning Panel ?

ricardian
14th Sep 2013, 19:26
A35 van (ADR 695B) bought in 1969 for £198 (on HP of course). The previous owner was a fish merchant and although I scrubbed the interior with bleach and various other industrial strength cleaners it still smelt of fish when I opened the door in the morning. Ran it for 10 years then, when it failed the MOT, I got a half-timbered Mini.

500N
14th Sep 2013, 19:29
Ford Escort Mk 1. Dark red / Crimson in colour from memory.

ShyTorque
14th Sep 2013, 19:32
Combined/Central Warning Panel ?

I think you'll find he means one of these:

SCIMITAR LUCAS GAUGE WARNING/ INDICATOR TRIUMPH | eBay (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SCIMITAR-LUCAS-GAUGE-WARNING-INDICATOR-TRIUMPH-/221280317471)

goudie
14th Sep 2013, 19:33
it still smelt of fish when I opened the door
Nothing unusual about that!:E

cumulusrider
14th Sep 2013, 19:41
1962 mini van. Bought off a garage mechanic (big mistake)
When it failed the MOT a few months later the newspaper stuffed in the cills was dated the same week that I bought the car. Managed to get 9 students in it to go down to the pub but the rear subframe parted company under the strain.
Subsequently mini cooper, triumph herald, Rally escort, Lotus elan, Rally Skoda, escort mexico etc etc etc.

Old skool Alex
14th Sep 2013, 19:59
Got my first car when I was 19, a Grey Austin Cambridge a55 mk2. 3 years later and I'm still driving her :)

El Grifo
14th Sep 2013, 20:06
Little grey Mini-Van with slightly wider wheels and Pirelli Cinturatos !!

For 96 quid in 1968,who would have expected anything less.

Freaked out the Mother-in-Law a few years later whilst on a country stroll with her beloved grandson.

On passing a little layby near the golf course, I pointed out that this was the exact spot where our treasured little bundle was conceived.

In the back of the aforementioned Mini-Van of course :p

El G.

redsnail
14th Sep 2013, 20:22
Goudie, you cheeky So and so. :ok:
El Grifo, great story. :D

My first car was a 1973 Corolla SE. Great little car. ;) Drove it from Sydney to north coast in NSW. Fun times. Lots of surfing trips in that car.
My first bike Kawasaki Z200. :)

Sailor Vee
14th Sep 2013, 20:59
Austin A40 Countryman, red with black roof, bought in Tadcaster in 1971. Reg was 228 BYG, which I think was a Somerset reg, (most Y# regis were from around Yeovil).

Managed to mangle the front end first night at Culdrose, hitting a low wall, cost of repair outstripped the value, and on TPFT insurance wasn't worth the hit to my wallet!

Loose rivets
14th Sep 2013, 21:15
Was I ever that slim?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v703/walnaze/Cars/RobwithWollsely.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/walnaze/media/Cars/RobwithWollsely.jpg.html)


I sent that badge, complete with bulb, to some bloke who 'won' it on e-baay. I paid 2/6 for that bulb and got much less for the badge when adjusting for inflation.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v703/walnaze/Cars/Wollselycar.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/walnaze/media/Cars/Wollselycar.jpg.html)

500N
14th Sep 2013, 21:18
Anyone remember those awful cars called Marinas ?
Especially that Sandy colour ?
I didn't have one but my brother did as his first car over here.

Blues&twos
14th Sep 2013, 21:24
Ha. The Morris Marina. Spent a lot of time scrabbling around under a sand-coloured one, listening to Bat out of Hell on the only bit of reliable kit on the entire car..the cassette player. Comprehensively destroyed by its owner, my mate, whose driving confidence seriously outstretched his driving talent.....:)

G-CPTN
14th Sep 2013, 21:25
YG registration from West Yorkshire (later, Leeds).

YA to YD from Somerset (later, Taunton).
YE and YF from London Central.
YH from London Central.
YI from City and County of Dublin.
YJ from Dundee (later, Brighton).
YK to YP and YR from London Central.
YS from Glasgow.
YT to YY from London Central.
YZ from Londonderry.

500N
14th Sep 2013, 21:37
Blues&Twos

"Comprehensively destroyed by its owner, my mate, whose driving confidence seriously outstretched his driving talent.....http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gif"

Then the Morris Marina was probably a good car for him !!!
1. It didn't matter if he wrecked it.
2. It was pretty solid.

I was trying to remember who made it, for some reason I thought Leyland.

G-CPTN
14th Sep 2013, 21:41
Marinas were made by Morris - part of British Leyland by then.

Morris Marina - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morris_Marina)

TWT
14th Sep 2013, 21:44
http://i1340.photobucket.com/albums/o730/ratsclacker/falcon_zps94f43360.jpg

500N
14th Sep 2013, 21:52
Reds
"My first car was a 1973 Corolla SE. Great little car."
It seems every family had a Corolla that got passed down to each child !

It's interesting seeing what people had as a first car, I cam out to Aus
first time in 78 and the big difference I noticed to the UK was the
majority of cars were 6 cylinder and quite a lot of big V8 cylinder cars.

G-CPTN
14th Sep 2013, 22:04
Morris 1000 Traveller (1961-1966)
Lotus 7 (1966-1967)
Bedford CA 'bus' (1967-1968)
MGVA Tourer (1968-1981)
Jaguar 2.4 Mk I (196?
Austin A30 (1967-1968)
Renault 4CV (1968)
Riley RME (196?
Sunbeam Rapier Series III (1968)
105E van (1968)
Jaguar 3.4 Mk II (1969-1970)
Hillman Imp (1970-1973)
Renault 4 (1973-1977)
Vauxhall Viva HC 2Dr (1971-1976)
Vauxhall Chevette GLS Hatchback (1976-1977)
Vauxhall Astra (1978)
Vauxhall Cavalier Mk I GLS SportsHatch (1979-1980)
Vauxhall Astra Estate (1980-1981)
Vauxhall Victor FD Estate (1977-1983)
Simca 1100 (1983-1984)
FIAT 128 Station Car (1984-1985)
Austin Maxi (1986-1988)
Renault 4L (1983-1988)
Ford Sierra (1988-1990)
Peugeot 305 GL Estate (1988-1998)
Vauxhall Cavalier (1990-2008)
Ford Fiesta Ghia (1998-2004)
Peugeot 306 2.0 HDi GLX Estate (2004-2012)
Volvo V50 1.6D SELux (2012-

Some of the dates of ownership are vague.

timmcat
14th Sep 2013, 22:05
Oi. I said first!

G-CPTN
14th Sep 2013, 22:07
Yes, but it got me started to think what I had owned through my lifetime so far.

fleigle
14th Sep 2013, 22:16
Citroen "Light 15", 1952 I think, Slough built, so RHD.
No heater, acres of room, flat floor.
Ran a big end bearing (white metal) going down the A1 near Durham, 4 of us and camping gear at start of holidays.
Fixed the bottom end then overstressed a gearbox bearing tearing down to the Mear (Mere?) hairpin at Scarborough after being to the bike races.
Scrapped it and emigrated to over here!!!
f

Dak Man
15th Sep 2013, 00:30
1979 Ford Fiesta 1300S, I bought it in '84.

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQP50DXHF6Gk5rUBXIPHssq271Ytoe5tqx-dQ1yREdHzQP2ikvp

Happy Days

localflighteast
15th Sep 2013, 03:11
Never owned a car
No "first car" stories to pass onto my kids ....
..... Hang on , no kids either :)

KAG
15th Sep 2013, 06:33
When I saw my grand ma' first car in this thread, I thought for myself (and now outloud): I must be one of the youngest JB posters!

My grand ma who was a young teenager at the end of WW2 had an Italian scooter with which she did an Europe tour, short after in the 50s she bought her first car. But she always talked about her scooter and all the travelling she did.

Cyber Bob
15th Sep 2013, 07:21
Fond memories, oh the days of tax free wheels!!!
http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6228/6223176835_f18899b7cd.jpg

Impress to inflate
15th Sep 2013, 07:27
My first car was my grandmothers 1972 850cc dull orange Leyland Mini.

When we picked it up just before I turned 17, I had to do a top end engine re-build then have new front wings, front valance and bottom half re-spray followed by a new rear sub frame. All the brakes were re-built but never worked properly.

Loved that little car, I tried to buy it back a few years after I sold it but the idiot I sold it to, wanted more than I originally sold it for, go figure

ITI

Capetonian
15th Sep 2013, 09:09
In 1971 when I was 18 I bought my first car, a Singer Gazelle estate car painted in camouflage colours by the previous owner, an old schoolfriend. It must have been about 10 years old then. Petrol was about 2/6d/ a gallon.

Drove it all round Europe and even took it to Morocco on the ferry from Algeciras. When money ran out I slept in it and cooked in it. Great car. The passenger could make it accelerate as the throttle control rod ran across under the carpet in the passenger footwell!

My first car in SA was a white Renault 16 with a column gearchange, a really crude piece of mechanism, a sealed cooling system that didn't, no shock absorbers, and very comfortable seats. One of the doors blew off in the South Easter on the Foreshore. The car was a piece of shit and put me off French engineering for life.

ExSp33db1rd
15th Sep 2013, 09:24
First owned - Morris Minor 1000 convertible, cost 640 quid brand new.

The rag top saved me much angst a couple of years later when I was savaged by a Scammell lorry driven by an idiot, the rescue crew just ripped off the top and lifted me and my broken thigh straight up and out, instead of trying to drag me out of the mangled doors.

First driven - Fathers' 1935 Morris 8 ( in which I got my first speeding ticket - yes it would exceed 30 mph, downhill with a following wind ! )

Hydromet
15th Sep 2013, 09:49
First car - mid '50s Standard 10 aka the stranded 10. Rust holes packed with tank sealant.

First car driven (in reverse) - Cousin's Ford Anglia. Backed out of the driveway, did a reverse U-turn and hit a tree on the footpath.

First car driven - Comalco SWB [email protected] Rover under uncle's supervision, on the ball-bearing roads of Weipa.

Then I went a got a licence.

Takan Inchovit
15th Sep 2013, 10:50
Corolla SL 73/74 I think (second hand) , only had motorbikes until the car. 3KB 1166 cc engine, 10:1 compression ratio, redlined 6600 rpm at 100mph. So reliable.

http://i1079.photobucket.com/albums/w505/wuigi1/CorollaSL2a_zpsff865700.jpg?t=1379238514

Worrals in the wilds
15th Sep 2013, 10:52
http://i790.photobucket.com/albums/yy190/GETTODACHOPA/My%20VH/vh253-01.png?t=1287383273
Not mine, just the same model. Mine didn't have nasty yellow number plates :} and wasn't nearly as shiny :ouch:.

Great car though, and I loved it dearly, brown carpet, brown vinyl seats and ongoing electrical 'issues' notwithstanding. You had to drive around with a spare VH Commodore in the boot (oh the diff's died, better get the spare diff out of the boot :uhoh:) but it got me places and back again, some of them over 1500 kms away. :cool:

I hope it's happy somewhere being frypans. :sad:

Takan Inchovit
15th Sep 2013, 10:57
I hope it's happy somewhere being frypans.

Caught hooning, huh? :E

Sailor Vee
15th Sep 2013, 11:02
G-CPTN, thanks for clearing up the regis, I always wondered how it may have got from Somerset to Yorkshire!

So, I'd have to have gone to Dublin to get a Geordie sounding reg, YI!!

Yamagata ken
15th Sep 2013, 11:13
1958 VW Beetle. I've only driven two cars that I thought wouldn't benefit from an extra 100bhp or so. That was one. The other was a '64 Galaxie. The Beetle was evil. Massive oversteer in the wet even driving at "normal" speeds in traffic. Heater wouldn't heat but channel CO into the car. No fuel gauge. 6V electrics: brown light would crawl out of the headlights and fall into a puddle just in front of the car. Rubbish. I could go on............

Worrals in the wilds
15th Sep 2013, 11:27
Caught hooning, huh? http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/evil.gifHooning? Many times. Caught? Never :suspect:. I could tell 'ee a tale or three, but I don't think the statue of limitations has run out yet, so no admissions. :}

At the end the gearbox packed it in (no idea why :\) and fixing it was worth more than the car. Dear ol' Dad sold it to a car dealer in Mackay for cash on the basis that he was going to fix it up. We both knew that this was crap, but I appreciated his effort at BS, because he's not usually good at emotional girly stuff. Off it went on a tow truck...:{

Fry hard, little Commodore; wherever you are. We fried 'em on the Ipswich Road and the Warrego Highway, all those big tough boys who thought they could drive. :cool: Never more, Miranda, never more. Well maybe just sometimes... :}
Ed Kuepper - Highway To Hell {AC/DC} - YouTube

500N
15th Sep 2013, 11:27
Worrals

"brown carpet, brown vinyl seats"

Wasn't that the most awful color ever ?

Glad to see no one has mentioned the Holden Camira :(

Background Noise
15th Sep 2013, 11:33
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a297/stickshaker/ScreenShot2012-12-31at134256_zpsa530db96.png

Mmm, nice..

Worrals in the wilds
15th Sep 2013, 11:41
True. What was with Holden and Brown?
One of the bushy cousins had a brown 1970s HQ with the all-brown interior. Well into the 1990s he'd take it 'for a drive' up some of the worst roads in SEQ, because he liked to photograph birds (the feathery sort with wings). :8

I used to ROFLMAO listening to people who'd bogged their brand new Landcruiser/Landrover trying to get to places old Uncle whatsit routinely visited in his HQ with its standard tyres and transmission. While they were being hauled out by the RACQ he puddled along past them with a full recovery kit that consisted of a flask of tea and a packet of egg sandwiches. :cool:

G-CPTN
15th Sep 2013, 12:30
Heater wouldn't heat but channel CO into the car. No fuel gauge. 6V electrics: brown light would crawl out of the headlights and fall into a puddle just in front of the car. I drove an early LHD Beetle overnight from Cambridge to Tyneside in winter (below zero ambient) on icy roads. :ugh:
As stated, the headlamp beams could be seen 'falling' (and the oversteer meant I had to keep alert and not fall asleep).
Oh, and did I mention it was freezing fog?

Crash gears, too . . .

Lightning Mate
15th Sep 2013, 12:52
One of these:

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/Consul_zps5a819a7c.jpg

parabellum
15th Sep 2013, 13:38
First car - 1934 Ford Eight, can't find a proper picture, Google only shows the de luxe versions. Cost me Five pounds! Windscreen wipers stopped when going up hill!

ZFT
15th Sep 2013, 13:46
Discorde,

You forgot the hideous vacuum wipers!!!!

Tankertrashnav
15th Sep 2013, 14:49
In 1965 £35 bought me a 1948 Sunbeam Talbot 80. Pre-war looking thing with running boards and separate chrome headlamps etc. I had it 7 weeks before I discovered that a combination of bald tyres, light rain and a smooth greasy surface because the road was used for tank training were not ideal. I spun it off the road, rolled it and wrote it off.

Also nearly wrote off my girlfriend who spent 6 weeks in Catterick Military Hospital recovering - but she still sends me a Christmas card!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/76/Sunbeam-Talbot_Saloon_1947.jpg

cockney steve
15th Sep 2013, 15:22
1958 Vauxhall Wyvern...3-speed, column change , bench front seat. wallowed so much, i told the apprehending officer that I was going to bolt castors to the doorhandles (bit enthusiastic tonking around High St. /Warrior Square corner ...let me off! )
Virtually my entire income needed to keep it fuelled...traded for a 100E ford Escort "shooting Brake" which had a starting handle to compensate for the shagged starter and battery!

sled dog
15th Sep 2013, 15:55
Assorted bikes, then 850 Morris Mini Traveller. Rather lively when fitted with a tuned 1275S Cooper engine, uprated brakes etc. Sold to a friend who wrote it off in a matter of weeks. 781 CLM was the reg. Fond memories, passed my test in that car.

TopBunk
15th Sep 2013, 17:46
Mine was a red 1970 Ford Cortina Mk 2 1600GT at age 20 in 1977 for year 3 at Uni (having had a Honda CB125 twin, AJS Model 31 650cc and Yamaha RD350B motorbikes beforehand).

driftdown
15th Sep 2013, 17:59
1961 Vauxhall Victor, Bench seat, floor shift, Colour was light blue or was it faded dark blue!!!

Paid 50 quid for it in 1974 and it wasn't long before a Cortina 1500GT replaced it. Loved the 1600E but did not have enough money to buy one.

Effluent Man
15th Sep 2013, 18:37
Grey 1962 Mini 850.Knocking drive shafts and 100 miles per pint of oil.The chap selling it told me these things and took fifty quid for it one dark November afternoon in 1968.My dad,who was a mechanin hated Issigonis creations with a vengeance.I was only 16 and spent my life savings on it,he reckoned I might just as well put the money down the drain.

The following morning a 19year old mate came past and gave me £92-10s for it.My dad couldn't believe it and I am still a car dealer 45 years on.

G-CPTN
15th Sep 2013, 20:23
The following morning a 19year old mate came past and gave me £92-10s for it.
My dad couldn't believe it and I am still a car dealer 45 years on.

It's knowing when to 'hold them' and when to 'fold them' that makes you successful in the car-dealing game. :ok:

1DC
15th Sep 2013, 20:31
I bought my first car off my Aunties boss, he had to stop driving and had 2 cars in his garage. He said i could buy either one.The choice was a 2 year old Vauxhall Velox or a prewar V8 Ford Pilot. I bought the Vauxhall, which i enjoyed but often wondered how i would have got on with the Ford..

vulcanised
15th Sep 2013, 20:36
A sit up and beg Ford Popular in 1962 for £15 with insurance adding £8 to the cost.

Some old motors and nostalgia here

BBC iPlayer - Reel History of Britain: Britain On the Move (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/p00jw1tv/Reel_History_of_Britain_Britain_On_the_Move/)

but as usual it's more about people than cars :ugh:

Bradley Hardacre
15th Sep 2013, 20:37
1974 Vauxhall Viva, often started first time and sometimes stopped before the object I was trying to avoid.

finfly1
15th Sep 2013, 20:45
A black 1959 Renault 4CV, four door, rear engine with louvered deck on which I painted "Le Bug Noir". It had floor shift and got such good mileage that a gas stop was an event. Trunk (boot) up front. Replaced by a 1955 Pontiac Star Chief robins egg blue convertable, then a 1960 Sunbeam Alpine.

And a reminder to self that I wish they had left photobucket alone, so I could see what I have there....

Discorde
15th Sep 2013, 23:22
You forgot the hideous vacuum wipers!!!!

Yes - driven off the inlet manifold. Put your foot down to overtake (a rare manoeuvre in that car) & the wipers stopped. And asymmetric braking when a wheel cylinder seized. But the vehicle was modern in other respects - flashing indicators when semaphores were the norm in other cars.

TBirdFrank
15th Sep 2013, 23:54
1967 - 1973 Drove Dad's Land Rovers, Standard Ensign, Anglia etc

1973 - bought

P4 Rover 100 2.6ltrs - A spit turned right into it at a set of lights! They lost so I bought
P6 Rover 2000 followed by a
P6 Rover 2200 then a
Triumph 2500S which got written off by a young lad in an Escort who couldn't understand what a red light meant!
So I bought an
SD1 Rover 2000 - but it wouldn't tow - so I bought an ex Police
Vauxhall Senator 3.0 - lovery lcar - but left snail trails of petrol from all those unions
Then we bought the
1990 TBird then in 1995 the
Jeep Cherokee 4.0 and then in 2010
the Jag estate, and last year after seventeen years the Cherokee went in favour of our present
Jeep Commander from just up the road from Radar and Wholi!

Longest owned vehicle - the bus - 1980 to present - now on it's fourth generation of the family as passengers

and the TBirds

Common thread - comfy! but thirsty!

G-CPTN
16th Sep 2013, 00:08
Mention of the braking problems reminds me that I had complete brake failure in two of my vehicles.
I was approaching traffic lights in the Bedford CA (van with side-windows). There was a vehicle waiting at the lights and when the brake pedal went straight down to the floor without any braking I pulled up the handbrake and skidded sideways to a stop and just managed to avoid hitting the other vehicle.

The other occasion was the Austin A30 - I was travelling fast along a country road and was about to turn right into a minor road. Same thing - pedal straight down to the floor so again I pulled up the handbrake and managed to slow sufficient to make the turn - although I bumped across the verge.

Such events seemed to be all part of owning secondhand vehicles. Of course modern vehicles have dual-circuit brakes and a double-failure would be unlikely.

Ancient Mariner
16th Sep 2013, 08:12
My first car was a '59 VW Beetle with RHD, particularly useful when driving on the right. In combination with an estimated 40 hp it made for some interesting overtaking. The farmer I bought it from wanted to know if I knew how to drive, a relevant question as I was only 17 at the time and had to be 18 for a driver license. I lied through my teeth as I had only once before been behind a wheel, in a car which was towed. Spent more time looking at the gear knob to figure out the next gear than I did looking at the road ahead. I have never been so cold in my life as I was that winter in the Beetle. Beer would freeeze on the shelf behind the rear seat and we were constantly intoxicated by fumes from the spray-on defroster used to keep ice from the inside of the front window. Happy days!
Per

Stewie1982
16th Sep 2013, 11:24
My first car was a Nissan Cherry C725 TDP only got rid of it when the head gasket blew...
Replaced the Nissan with an N reg Renault Clio then that with a Vauxhall Astra van, then a Vauxhall Corsa then a Vauxhall Astra car, then that with a Peugeot Partner van (got a thing for vans lol) then that with a Vauxhall Vectra and now my present car a Ford Fiesta...

Effluent Man
16th Sep 2013, 11:27
My first road car was a '55 1131cc Beetle,the one with the oval back window.It would do 65-eventually,but took about a mile to get there.The 6v electrics gave headlamps about as bright as glow worms.Mine had superbly comfortable cloth trimmed reclining seats.I once put it into a power dive on the A2 -or M2,can't remember what it was in '69 and got the speedo needle to point vertically downwards,reckon it could have been 85-90.

My dad had a '56 ZB Magnette.I am currently restoring a two tone grey '58 one with the wrap round back window.73000 miles from new!

MReyn24050
16th Sep 2013, 12:03
My first car was a 1933 Austin 7 which I purchased in 1961 for the princely sum of £40 the following day my wife went out and purchased a Silver Cross pram for our first born and paid £45 for it.
http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c67/sabamel/Family/AustinSeven1933_zps2962e0f5.jpg

A A Gruntpuddock
16th Sep 2013, 12:25
Nice looking Wolseley 1.5 for £63 (about 1970) at my very first auction, sold as one owner with 11 months MOT by county's biggest car dealership.

Got to be a good one I thought and assumed that the guy who kept telling me not to bid wanted it for himself.

Went like stink but kept overheating on long runs and it was not uncommon to see bits of chassis, steering, etc bouncing along in the road after hitting a bump or pothole.

Totally rusted out but faked up to hide all the holes created by the previous owner (a farmer) who must have used it for ploughing judging by the amount of mud inside the cills.

Pulling up behind a shiny new Jag MK 10 at a junction and thought the brakes felt slightly odd but he turned in so I stopped braking anyway.

Caught up to him at the next junction and the pedal went to the floor! Visions of expensive repairs but he started off just before I hit him. Front brake pipe with large hole in it.

Watched a documentary about the dangers of unlubricated front struts on Morris Minors and thought "that's the same as mine!". Checked them next day and one hub assembly was held on by the one remaining thread.

Father asked why I was scrapping it instead of putting it in for an MOT. Refused to believe how bad it was underneath untill he looked for himself. Got up and said " Jesus Christ - you've been driving about in that!!!!"

Lovely car but totally trashed before I bought it.

Ancient Observer
16th Sep 2013, 12:50
1954 Moggie Split Windscreen. In that mid-green that was common then.

Bought in 1970.

The original engine - an 803 sidevalve, had to go straightaway. Bought a "spare" Moggie 1,000 with a friend, and I got the engine, gearbox and drive shaft. This dropped straight in. I have no idea what my friend did with the rest of the car.
Re-bore of the new 950 engine a couple of months later.
"Borrowed" a stage 3 head from Gary. He doesn't want it back now. (PBUH) "Borrowed" twin 1/14's from Rob, who kept on wanting them back. And he kept on wanting back the booklet on how to tune them. He just doesn't understand what "borrow" means.....

Took forever to fit 1275 engine in. Clue - there isn't a standard propshaft for a Moggie split windscreen with a 1275 engine.

Was well known at the breakers for clutch plates and rear diff. Rear diffs make very loud bangs when you shatter them.

4 new wings. Painted in Undercoat grey. Re-painted roof, white.
Large flower on bootlid. (Thanks, Avis).
Easily did an indicated 100 on the M1 in the early 70's.

Within about 20 months, some nutter crossed every lane on the A1 just to smash in the front of my Moggie. I was a bit cross about that.

Lightning Mate
16th Sep 2013, 14:12
I wonder what everyones' present car is.......

11Fan
16th Sep 2013, 14:22
Just after getting out of the Army in 1976, at 20 years old I bought a 1965 Chevrolet Impala for $500 USD from the original owner. Unfortunately, can find any pictures of it, but this one is pretty close on color and style.

http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm107/APC11Fan/65Impalla_zps2ac812c7.jpg

My brother blew up the engine and I stupidly gave it up for scrap. :ugh:

That decision in in the running for the worst decision I've ever made only because I don't know for certain that I've made the worst one yet.

El Grifo
16th Sep 2013, 14:28
Big old Mitsubishi 4x4 which I have had since new.
Must be around 12 years old now.

Pump some diesel in from time to time and take to Pedro's for a bit of TLC once a year or so.

Best car I ever had :-)

El G.

superq7
16th Sep 2013, 14:30
Lightning

First car Ford Escort G reg 1968 cost £ 400

Present car Range Rover Evoque picked it up last week cost £43,000.

Lightning Mate
16th Sep 2013, 14:32
Very nice piece of kit, but it ain't got the three-pointed star innit.

dubbleyew eight
16th Sep 2013, 14:36
I wonder what everyones' present car is.......

bad question. I have 3 of them.

Lightning Mate
16th Sep 2013, 14:39
So do we - and one of 'em is a Smart Car!

MReyn24050
16th Sep 2013, 14:57
I wonder what everyones' present car is.......

2013 Honda Accord I-VTEC EX

Lightning Mate
16th Sep 2013, 15:01
3.2 Mercedes CLK.

500N
16th Sep 2013, 15:02
2003 Holden Commodore Station Wagon
(I think they are called Estate in the UK)

Lightning Mate
16th Sep 2013, 15:04
Ahhh - a Vauxhall then.

500N
16th Sep 2013, 15:07
I don't think so. They are made here and I don't think they are
exported to the UK. I'll check.


Edit
Look very similar but I don't think they are the same car
and certainly not the same engine. We drive 3.8 Ltr V6's
and V8's over here, the Vauxall's seem to be 4 Cyl.

superq7
16th Sep 2013, 15:12
Lightning

Your right it ain't the quality of a Merc, it's back in the shop as we speak slight ripples in the body work in the side panels above the rear wheels.

dubbleyew eight
16th Sep 2013, 15:13
current cars.
two mazda 121 jellybeans. brilliant cars.
ford xh utility. a knuckle barking nightmare to work on but just keeps on keeping on.

wife has a mazda 121 metro. has everything going for it except any ability to accelerate. not a model I would ever recommend.

Ancient Mariner
16th Sep 2013, 15:13
From first to present? Oh well.
Skoda Superb TDI 4x4 Station Wagon/Estate for me. SWMBO just got herself a Mercedes A Class, turbo petrol.
(The Skoda was actually hers, I was going to get something more exiting, she changed her mind as she found the Skoda too large. So I'm stuck with the Skoda, nice car though.)
Per

Lightning Mate
16th Sep 2013, 15:14
Yer's mine - well not actually mine but same machine and same colour.

http://i636.photobucket.com/albums/uu82/Lightning_29/CLK_zpsce4f0f31.jpg

The SSK
16th Sep 2013, 15:16
My first car was a K-reg Ford Escort.
My last car was a BMW 320d estate. Had to give it up on Doctor's orders (Ophthalmologist, actually)
But the last car I ever drove (the day before the doc made his pronouncement) was a brand-new Mercedes C220cdi auto estate with all the bells and whistles - we had booked a sub-compact with the Portuguese hire company and they gave us the world's biggest upgrade. Nice way to end one's driving career.

Lightning Mate
16th Sep 2013, 15:18
brand-new Mercedes C220cdi

Me son's got one of those as a company car.

Odd really, since he sells Porsch's.

500N
16th Sep 2013, 15:18
SSK

Ophthalmologist - that's my worry as well although hopefully not
for a few years yet.

Lightning Mate
16th Sep 2013, 15:19
Get some in mate. :E

dubbleyew eight
16th Sep 2013, 15:20
lightning I've just realised what those mercs need.

....a decent roo bar and spotties :E

Lightning Mate
16th Sep 2013, 15:22
But we don't have roos 'ere innit!

500N
16th Sep 2013, 15:26
W8

Even a roo bar wouldn't save it :O

The SSK
16th Sep 2013, 15:32
500N - Ophthalmologist - that's my worry as well although hopefully not for a few years yet.

Best of luck. In my case it's glaucoma. Doc had a fit when I told him I'd just done 800km in a hire car, he said 'no way should you be driving in your condition, your insurance is probably invalid'. A second doc told me that I could apply to the authorities for an eye test and they might give me a restricted licence - no motorways or after dark. I decided they would almost certainly fail me and confiscate my licence.

Three years on now, I don't miss the actual driving although the loss of mobility is a bugger. When, as a passenger, you don't understand why the Mrs has just stopped at a pedestrian crossing, until it dawns on you that there's a pedestrian actually on it, then you know why you're not driving any more.

Lightning Mate
16th Sep 2013, 15:36
SSK,

Dreadful mate.

I've got two years on yer and praying.......

500N
16th Sep 2013, 15:39
SSK

Sorry to hear that. I "should" have worn glasses ever since I was at school
and I have always had them but didn't wear them much. I have noticed
in the last few years, especially last 6 months my eye sight is getting worse.
Especially reading maps and small writing !!!

Out bush I can compensate when looking for things (like animals)
and still hold my own.

Am always more cautious at night as I don't like glare at the best of times.

Thanks for the heads up.

The SSK
16th Sep 2013, 15:55
As far as glaucoma is concerned, a simple eye pressure test will tell whether you're in a problem zone, and a relatively simple field-of-vision trst will tell whether any damage has already occurred. If the pressure is high, it can be brought down with drops. If the damage has been done, it can't be reversed.

As for driving, I sometimes wonder if I'd be better off losing my left eye altogether, there must be plenty of capable (and legal) one-eyed drivers. My right eye, although it has the disease, sees OK and touch wood isn't deteriorating. It;s when the brain tries to make sense of two inputs, one from a good eye and one from a buggered one, that it plays tricks like showing you an empty road when actually there's a car coming the other way, or an empty sky when there's a departing jumbo just overhead.

If you have difficulties driving down narrow streets on a wet night, with lots of glare and reflections, it might be a sign to get checked out.

PS - a tendency to make typos is another symptom

G-CPTN
16th Sep 2013, 16:06
Those of advancing years (especially those who have, up until then, had no need for spectacles to correct their eyesight) will notice that their arms will not extend sufficiently to allow comfortable reading and 'reading glasses' will be required, these becoming increasingly necessary for everyday life.

This seems to be a natural phenomenon.

It certainly took me by surprise as I had had excellent eyesight throughout my earlier life.

500N
16th Sep 2013, 16:12
SSK

Re one eye, two eye's.

I have one long sighted eye and one short sighted eye. When out bush,
I do find it useful sometimes to only use one eye and I also off set where
I am looking slightly. I think it allows my brain to sort the info quicker.

And we are talking trying to pick a horn or an ear of a Bull amongst
all the trees, leaves etc. It works for me.

goudie
16th Sep 2013, 20:58
Must have had nigh on 25 cars, ten of them company cars.
Current car is a Fiesta, suits my needs and is lovely to drive.

bosnich71
17th Sep 2013, 05:51
500N .... ref. your eyes. Could I suggest that you pay a visit to Tony van Alst in the main street, down by the RACV. He is really thorough and professional. He was the bloke who found my pressure problem ....and even laughed at my feeble joke about buying a Labrador. :cool:

500N
17th Sep 2013, 05:55
Bosnich

Thanks for the ref, I might look him up. My GF was trying to get me
to go to one of the SpecSavers people but not sure just how much
training they have had.

My old optom was in Collins St, near Macquarie Bank at 101
but I think he has retired. He was old school type, very good.

bosnich71
17th Sep 2013, 06:05
First car, a 1949 Morris Minor, split screen, side valve.

I nearly bought an Alfa Romeo 8C- 35 ex Scuderia Ferrari driven previously by Tazio Nuvalari.......... only joking! Wish I had though as it sold last weekend for 5,937,500 Pounds ! :ugh:

gupta
17th Sep 2013, 07:17
Following G-CPTN's lead, and starting in 1969:

Vespa 150 1960
Morris Mini 850 1961
Morris Mini K 1100 1971
Suzuki TS 185 1972
Ossa 250 Mick Andrews Replica 1973
Holden HQ 308 Panel Van 1973
Jaguar Mk II 3.8 1963
Leyland Moke 1300 1976
Renault 16 TS 1973
Chrysler Sigma 2 litre S/W 1980
Ford Fairlane ZA 289 1967
Chrysler Scorpion 2.6 1980
Mitsubishi L300 4x4 Express 1985
Yamaha XS750 1977
Ford F100 LWB 302 1977
Ford Falcon XF S/W 1987
Holden Commodore VN S/W 1989
Mitsubishi Magna TN S/W 1988
Toyota Corolla Csi Hatchback 1990
Toyota Camry Csi Limited 1992
Mazda 626 Turbo Hatch 1988
Toyota Lexcen Vxi (VR Commodore Berlina) 1993
Mitsubishi L300 Van 1989
Land Rover SIIA Station Wagon 1967
Toyota Tarago Gli 1993
BSA A65T Thunderbolt 1971
Subaru 4wd S/W 1800 1981
Volvo 244 Sedan 1980
Holden Adventra CX8 2004
Morris Mini 850 1962
Mazda 323 1.6 1986
Mitsubishi Outlander VR 2006
Mitsubishi 380 SX Platinum 2006
Subaru Impreza RX Sport 1997
Mitsubishi Lancer GL 2000
Holden Monaro CV8Z 2005
Subaru Outback 3.6R 2012
Mazda MX6 1989
Honda Civic 2008
Subaru Impreza WRX 2004

Looking at that list I have to question my own taste at times, although the ones in red were/are for the kids

500N
17th Sep 2013, 07:19
"Holden HQ 308 Panel Van 1973"

Shaggin' Wagon if ever one existed :O

gupta
17th Sep 2013, 07:29
Absolutely

Effluent Man
17th Sep 2013, 08:06
Selected interesting ones:

'68 Cortina V6 Savage - Bought from a Lightning pilot at RAF Coltishall.Standard Cortina GT gearing.Would pull away in 4th gear!

'37 Vale Special.Built on a Standard 8 chassis in Maida Vale.Found in the back garden of an 85 year old man near where I live.No bodywork.

'62 Healey 3000 Originally registered in Germany,another RAF owner first off - Bought from a doctor at St Thomas' in London,under a collapsed cycle shed £167-10s

'70 Jensen Interceptor - The owner was running it on 3rd party Ins and crashed on the way home from the pub -£410

'73 Saab 96 - Bought last year for £1000 after the owner took it to a garage in 1990 and never went back to collect it.Ffyffe's yellow and full length Webasto roof that opened like the day it was new.

ricardian
17th Sep 2013, 08:41
Lightning Mate said I wonder what everyones' present car is....
1997 Ford Ka bought 12 months ago for £500. Cheap & cheerful, ideal for toddling around the island. Annual mileage under 2,000. Replaced my 13 year old LR Discovery.

Lightning Mate
17th Sep 2013, 08:50
'68 Cortina V6 Savage - Bought from a Lightning pilot at RAF Coltishall

Now you've got me wondering.........

Hydromet
17th Sep 2013, 09:27
Since we're listing our vehicles...
Standard 10
DKW motor scooter
Fiat 1100
Honda CL90 motor bike
EH Holden
Datsun 180B SSS - went like stink.
Suzuki 185B motor bike
Holden Commodore
Toyota Tarago
Honda 250 motor bike
Ford Laser - written off by daughter
Mitsubishi Magna
Toyota Corolla S/wagon
Toyota RAV 4 - current chariot.

All fairly unexciting, except perhaps for the 180B. The first 3 were all totally unreliable.

500N
17th Sep 2013, 09:30
Hydro

"EH Holden"

A bit of class :ok:

Ancient Mariner
17th Sep 2013, 09:54
OK then, memory exercise.
'59 VW Beetle, engine kaput
'60 Opel Rekord 1,7, engine kaput
'59 Buick Super, sold :{
'67 Hillman Super Minx Mk IV Sport, con rod through engine block, don't ask
'57 Hillman Minx, sold
'70 something Toyota Cressida estate, second child, sold....the car
'70 something Seat 127, sold
'70 something Citroen GSA X3 (I think), sold
'80 Opel Ascona 2.0 SR, Black Jack, nice car, sold
'80 something Peugeot 305, trade
'88 VW Jetta, first brand new car, trade
'89 Peugeot 405 SRI, trade
'93 Peugeot 405 SRI, trade
'93 Peugeot 205 "Coke", wife's first car
'90 something VW Caravelle Coach, fun car
'96 Rover 600 Ti, very nice and fast car, loved it
'98 LR Disco HSE Series I, V8, utter crap, after 18 months they gave me a new
'00 LR Disco HSE Series II TDI, utter crap sold it to neighbour after 4 months
'00 Peugeot 206, two off, gifts for daughters
'00 Ford Expedition, not bad at all, sold
'00 Ford Lynx, Philippino edition of Escort or somesuch, sold
'05 Citroen Xsara Estate, forgettable, think trade?
'06 Suzuki Grand Vitara TDI, nice, trade
'07 Nissan Navarra 4x4 TDI, nice car, crap quality and dealer, sold
'10 Renault Clio, yawn, who cares
'12 Skoda Superb Estate, present
'13 MB A Klasse, present
Per

Groundbased
17th Sep 2013, 09:55
Learned to drive in my Mum's 1976 Hillman avenger 1600 GL (the GL meant rostyle wheels so it didn't look too bad!)

The first car I bought was a Mark v triumph spitfire which I paid £465 for in 1985. I wish I still had it, it would be worth a lot more than that now.

Hydromet
17th Sep 2013, 10:26
"EH Holden"

A bit of class
Indeed. It was the 'Premier' 186 too. Had to sell it when I went to PNG. 10 years later when I came back to Sydney, I spotted it parked outside where I worked, still looked as good as when I sold it.
I'd bought it in 1970 from my uncle, who lived in Weipa and only drove it when he came back to Cairns, so low mileage.

cumulusrider
17th Sep 2013, 10:50
Lotus Elan S3 SE fhc Lovely car went like stink on 1556cc. I probably spent as much time fixing it as driving it. sold for £725 in 1976 now worth £25k+

Ford Escort Mk1 twin cam. Rally spec cars in mint condition are now going for £40k

Ford Escort Mk1 Mexico

Skoda ex works rally car. Sent over for the RAC Rally and then sold on to SK motors the uk skodasports dealer at the time. No bumpers, fibreglass wings, alloy doors and roof. Weighed about the same as a mini but with rwd handling and 110bhp Handled really well if you drove it correctly. Had minis for breakfast

The SSK
17th Sep 2013, 11:13
My first grown-up girlfriend ;) came from a slightly dysfunctional family, the patriarch of which had a penchant for buying any car he came across with a price tag of £50 or less and more than 6 months on the MoT. At any time there were about nine of them lined up in the road and I got to drive most of them. I remember a Morris Oxford and an Austin Cambridge in the Farina styling, ditto A40, a Humber Hawk, a Beetle with the oval back window, a Wolseley 6/90, my memory fails for the rest of them.

My brother was a bit of an oddball too. Although he was a regular petrolhead with sporty inclinations he had a thing about Borgward Isaballas, DKW Juniors and Panhards, and owned several of each. I drove one of his Panhards, a PL17 - that was an amazingly futuristic car, comfortable (luxurious, even) six-seater, Monte Carlo winner – all on 850cc.

Then, in the early 1980s I had to fly to London once a month to deliver a data tape. I would hire a car for the day and always choose whatever was new on the market – Avis used to have cars available well in advance of their general appearance on the roads and I used to have fun turning heads in things that very few had yet seen – the Mk 3 Escort, Metro, Allegro, Marina, Triumph Acclaim – all utterly forgettable.

Union Jack
17th Sep 2013, 11:34
I wonder what everyone's present car is.......

Just call me John Prescott! :)

Jack

Capot
17th Sep 2013, 18:03
A tidy version of my first car;

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff141/picshooter/9e2810af-5a57-4e29-8808-ad1c5f1ec18d_zps7096dc92.jpg

I had just been issued with a driving licence by the Army, and saw a very tatty version of one of these Humbers in a car lot, £20 drive-away, begging me to rescue it, so I did. I needed something to learn to drive in.

It had a hole in the exhaust just below the hole in the floor under the passenger's feet. It also had suction-powered wipers, but the pipe hung loose from the panel and the only way to make the wipers work was for the passenger to provide the suction using her mouth. After 10-15 minutes of doing this, with the rich mixture of exhaust gas, those suffering from LMF would turn very green and give up, even though it was still raining and I needed the wipers! Can you imagine that?

It was a useful way of weeding out girls who were unlikely to last. I had to abandon the vehicle in a camp in Herefordshire and they ceremoniously scrapped it some years later.

Capetonian
17th Sep 2013, 18:09
I was driving on the A27 near Brighton on Saturday and saw a few cars on their way to the festival of speed there.

One was one of these (removed oversized picture for editing)
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/7593647/humsnipe.jpg

but in burgundy red and absolutely immaculate. It reminded me that my grandfather owned a couple of them in the 60s and 70s and wanted to give me one, but I couldn't insure it, otherwise that might well have been my first car. They look dated now but what a beautiful car both to look at and to drive.

Lightning Mate
17th Sep 2013, 18:18
Maybe we should start a new thread:

"Cars you have shagged in".

500N
17th Sep 2013, 18:21
LM

Really :O

Wouldn't it be easier to say which ones you have owned that you
HAVEN'T shagged in ?

Lightning Mate
17th Sep 2013, 18:23
No mate - last in-car shagging was 1967 !

Discovered hotels after that.

Capetonian
17th Sep 2013, 18:24
Or simply ........... "Cars you have shagged ". Naked man caught 'having sex' with Land Rover - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/10301408/Naked-man-caught-having-sex-with-Land-Rover.html)

G-CPTN
17th Sep 2013, 18:25
67 Hillman Super Minx Mk IV Sport, con rod through engine block, don't ask
Just one?

I managed to have all four punched-out of the side of the block (big-end bolts gave way - wrong torque used on new bolts!) - lasted about a mile after rebuild - first time I called for power to climb a hill (it had all been downhill until then . . . )

500N
17th Sep 2013, 18:26
LM

The question is, did you ever do it in a Jag ;) :O

C'mon, you can say !

ChrisVJ
17th Sep 2013, 18:37
Singer Nine

Not this actual one. Pity.

http://i49.photobucket.com/albums/f296/ChrisVJ/Singer_1953_Marilyn_Monroe_Rick_Feibusch_2012.jpg (http://s49.photobucket.com/user/ChrisVJ/media/Singer_1953_Marilyn_Monroe_Rick_Feibusch_2012.jpg.html)

Bought it in Oxford where it had been in a garage for several years for twenty five pounds. Drove it home to N Notts, ( foot right on the floor, 70 mph.) by the time I got there the big ends had gone. Changed them over our pit using box spanners (didn't know any better,) They went again almost immediately so bought an engine from the local scrap yard. (Imagine getting a Singer Nine engine from the nearest yard with just a phone call. (Didn't know any better.)

Changed engine, drove it for a month then the bearing failed, found half an inch of water on top of the oil, hadn't changed oil from scrap yard. (Didn't know any better.) Bought MGA, left for college, parents got car towed away. (cost twenty five pounds.)

Ignorant kid I was. Not much better since.

Bradley Hardacre
17th Sep 2013, 18:37
did it in her dad's fiat 500! let's just say she was athletic!

Effluent Man
17th Sep 2013, 18:51
LM,Was it a colleague of yours? It was a Saluki Bronze "F" registered one.On your other pointI regularly used a Spitfire (Triumph not Supermarine)One night I got out to put my pants back on and walked into a bramble bush!

Lightning Mate
17th Sep 2013, 19:00
Good job you had yer pants on then you 'ole buggha.

Ancient Mariner
17th Sep 2013, 19:20
G-CPTN, just one. Over reved the engine in order to overtake something posher. On the bright side it ran for another hour on three cylinders, sans oil. Even started the next day when I came to pick it up.
Per

FullOppositeRudder
18th Sep 2013, 05:59
Initially a Ford Falcoln ute - 1962 model.

Subsequently I inherited my father's almost new 1964 EH series Holden, 179 CID, seven bearing crankshaft motor - three speed column shift, drum brakes each corner. I had to install the heater myself - and the Ferris car radio.

A dreadful vehicle by today's engineering standards, but I was the envy of all at that time. The shiela's were always impressed. :E

DX Wombat
18th Sep 2013, 12:33
FEK 770 - a green, 1957 Ford Prefect. :)

rgbrock1
18th Sep 2013, 13:41
My first car was a 1970 Buick Opel Kadett handed down to me, so to speak, by my father. It even had the capability to float, for those times one needed to perform a water-borne assault.

http://www.car-vs-car.de/images/resized/Opel-Kadett-B-WJTK.jpg

Ancient Observer
18th Sep 2013, 14:05
Er, mr/mrs cumulus.
Why did any one ever buy a Lotus Elan S3 SE fhc when there were dhc.s for sale?
I never understood that. (SE S3 dhc toooooned to 135bhp and SE S4 dhc)

Sultan Ismail
18th Sep 2013, 15:50
First car, a 1953 "sit-up-and-beg" Ford Prefect bought for £7/10.
Sold it 2 years later to a consortium of my brother and brother-in-law for £5.
They wanted "Hire Purchase".

timmcat
18th Sep 2013, 16:47
As the starter of this particularly fantastic thread I guess I should contribute to the 'current car' thread drift...

2011 Audi A3 Sport 2.0tdi. Love it. Great performance and I get 65 to 75 mpg.

Next car? It's due for change in 6 months and I'm quite fancying the new Mercedes A-Class. Either that or another A3...

Effluent Man
18th Sep 2013, 18:28
Since 1992 I have only run Mercs and they have been superb. 2 190E's, a new C200 "N" reg,C230K Kompressor "P" reg a "53" reg E270CDi,"04" 220CDi, "54" 200SLK .(Mrs EM's idea) and now a "58" reg 220CDi Sport.

All have been superb,about 700k miles in total.Failures -a key on the C230K and a back exhaust knocked off by hitting flood water in the C200.Highlight - a little ashamed to admit it.Going over The Alps in the SLK.Ending in Monte Carlo,very Gregory Peck.

goudie
18th Sep 2013, 19:00
I'm quite fancying the new Mercedes A-Class.

Timmcat, I had one of the early A-class models and it was an absolute dog. Rear swing arm bearings failed at 30,000 miles. Had to buy the complete assembly... £600 to fix. At 42,000 miles the steering jammed!
As the steering box is on the left hand side there are several universal joints connecting the RHD column. One of the joints seized, luckily I managed to bring it to a stop. The joint that seized was at the bottom of the column. Complete new column and joint required...£1000+ to fix! Overall it was pleasant to drive but I got rid of it asap. Incidentally, MB were not the least concerned that the steering had jammed.
It's a nice looking car, just hope they've improved it's reliability

Capetonian
18th Sep 2013, 19:06
I hired an early Mercedes A class as my SWMBO was thinking of buying one and it was indeed a dog to drive. Fortunately what decided her against it was the relatively small luggage space as her ideal car has roughly the luggage capacity of a 747 Freighter.

rgbrock1
18th Sep 2013, 19:07
My wife has an Audi A4 2.0 turbo whatever.

She thinks it's the bees' knees.

I think it's a piece of shit.

Effluent Man
18th Sep 2013, 19:10
The new A class is a completely different car.

Loose rivets
18th Sep 2013, 19:32
Is it time for me to say what I think of Mercedes Benz yet?:rolleyes:

superq7
18th Sep 2013, 19:34
Yes all ears :ok:

Capetonian
18th Sep 2013, 19:36
We've had about 6 Audis (80, 100, A4s, and A3s) and I think they are the bee's knees!

rgbrock1
18th Sep 2013, 19:36
Effluent Man wrote

The new A class is a completely different car.

That's an understatement. Her Audi is the most unintuitive vehicle I've ever been in. To operate something as simple as the heating system requires an advanced degree in mathematics just to figure out. Although the A4 is larger than my Honda Civic, I feel much more confined in the Audi than I do in my own car.
Even moving the damn driver-side seat requires manual dexterity usually reserved for a contortionist.

Nothing at all like the Audi's of old.

G-CPTN
18th Sep 2013, 19:38
Is it time for me to say what I think of Mercedes Benz yet?:rolleyes:

http://www.reactiongifs.com/wp-content/gallery/popcorn-gifs/tumblr_ljh0puClWT1qfkt17.gif

cumulusrider
18th Sep 2013, 19:42
Because I had to keep it outside and lotus folding roofs leak. Anyway s3 se had twin webbers and 110bhp - sonded much better than the stombergs on the s4

MG23
18th Sep 2013, 19:45
Lancia Beta Coupe in a mix of rust and faded red paint. Didn't last long due to the aforementioned rust, but cost less to buy than to insure for a year.

I think the Lancia HPE I replaced it with lasted about five years, and I sold it on when I got another with a supercharger.

Capetonian
19th Sep 2013, 10:48
Quiz: Are you a classic car expert? - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/10318228/Quiz-Are-you-a-classic-car-expert.html)

I got 60%.

The SSK
19th Sep 2013, 10:49
Lancia Beta Coupe in a mix of rust and faded red paint. Didn't last long due to the aforementioned rust, but cost less to buy than to insure for a year.

Me too, except the paint that held it together was gold.

Lightning Mate
19th Sep 2013, 11:34
I've had Mercedes for over twenty years and never had trouble with any of them, although I wouldn't go near an A-class - too small.

Present one is a 3.2 petrol CLK - great looking piece of kit.

timmcat
19th Sep 2013, 12:08
Seriously think that some people are confusing the 'old' A-Class to the new one. Absolutely totally different vehicle competing in a different sector to the old one. Perhaps we've hit on a potential issue here that the manufacturer didnt consider...

Old one...

http://www.wintonsworld.com/cars/a-cars-2005/2005-carpics/mercedes-a-class-1.jpg

New one...

http://www.greencardesign.com/site/sites/default/files/Mercedes_A-Class_First_Drive_08.jpg

Lightning Mate
19th Sep 2013, 12:13
And your top picture isn't even the old one.

beaufort1
19th Sep 2013, 12:16
Managed only 40% in the quiz.:ouch:

At some point in the future I'm going to have to replace my current car which is a Subaru Forester XT 2.5L Turbo. We sold my wife's (we had one each) last year before moving up here as it wouldn't be needed.
The biggest consideration is going to be reliability. We don't have any main dealers on island. There are a couple of mechanics but I don't think they are going to have all the diagnostic gear for every make of car. I certainly don't need a vehicle with a turbo but something with off road capability is a necessity as a lot of roads aren't tarmac and most the streets in the village centre are cobbles. I also need something that can carry two kayaks and no doubt we will at some point go back to owning two Newfoundlands again. So as with this present car I need something that has good low level entry for the hounds and can handle 25 + stone sat over the back axle. The Subaru has been extremely reliable and there is a very good dealer back in Guernsey, the problem I'm faced with is the £300+ round trip to crane and ship it. I like the look and I've heard good things about the Skoda Yeti but I've only seen one on island. I like Landrovers but the rear door is too high off the ground. My other Newfoundland had to be boosted to get in the car (no joke lifting a 12/13 stone hound). This is because when they are pups they grow at such a rate (5lbs a week) and you have to watch their legs re bone and musculature growth, so it is recommended they are lifted in and out of cars.:suspect: This is Ok up to the age of about six months but not when they are fully grown. :ooh:
I don't do a lot of mileage the island is only 3 miles long by about half a mile wide and I estimate I drove about 2000 miles the last 12 months.
So ideally what I need is a car with a good carrying capacity, is rugged with off road capability, needs no servicing and is easy to work on. I'm thinking there is not going to be any such animal. Thoughts anyone??:)

Lightning Mate
19th Sep 2013, 12:22
needs no servicing and is easy to work on

No such car these days.

Try an e-mail to Honest John at the Daily Telegraph. He gets asked questions like this all the time, and provides well-judged answers.

Denti
19th Sep 2013, 12:41
My first car was actually a saab 900 turbo 16. Not a bad car, except that it had more than 200k miles, we (me and another student) owned it in Arizona which is not natural saab territory and it counted around one mile for each four we drove. The repair bills were eye watering.

Currently living in a city where i do not need a car, but i have my pick of over 300 minis, bmw 1 including the electric ones. Currently deciding between a bmw 5 series or a porsche cayman (yes, i do like it over the 911).

Would never buy a mercedes to be honest, its a car for fat guys over 65 or young yobos of turkish origin for the AMG series over here. In about 20 years time i will consider them :)

rab-k
19th Sep 2013, 13:26
My first car... (not the actual beast itself)...

http://users.skynet.be/fa241585/aasite/hist/voy-02.jpg

Make'n'model anyone? ;)

G-CPTN
19th Sep 2013, 13:36
Opel Kadett station wagon.

Also called Caravan or Kombi.

Vauxhall had a similar model called Chevette Estate.

.

Union Jack
19th Sep 2013, 13:52
Thoughts anyone??http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gif

Yes - just try shoogling "dog car ramp" ....:ok:

Jack

beaufort1
19th Sep 2013, 14:46
Union Jack yes, I tried to get them to use one a few years ago. A friend of ours had a couple of aging retrievers who had mobility problems and they used it no problem. Mine weren't very happy as with their weight it bent and moved around quite a bit. I could try again with something a little stiffer.:)

603DX
19th Sep 2013, 15:39
I scored 90% in the classic car quiz, but am certainly not an "expert". I just happened to be around during most of the dates concerned, I used to read Motor Sport magazine when Bill Boddy and Dennis Jenkinson ran it, and often attended at Brands Hatch where several of the cars pictured featured in races.

But the really "easy-peasy, lemon squeezy" factor facilitating a high score was the childishly simple multiple-choice quiz format! Really, if the right answers are provided within groups of only four possibilities, then it's not too difficult to pick them out. No wonder people moan about dumbing-down in education nowadays, when that sort of soft approach is used so much! :*

rgbrock1
19th Sep 2013, 15:51
Although not my first car, I drove one of these for a couple of years while living in Germany. My own personal Horror On Wheels.

http://images03.olx.hu/ui/3/94/79/52128579_1.jpg

500N
19th Sep 2013, 15:54
RGB

And you STILL managed to find girlfriend / wife :O

dubbleyew eight
19th Sep 2013, 16:08
beaufort. you need a hummer :}

rgbrock1
19th Sep 2013, 16:18
500N:

Yup, I sure did. I guess the Fräulein I was with at the time took pity in me, seeing the car I was driving. :}:}:}

Fareastdriver
19th Sep 2013, 16:27
I scored 100% but only because of intelligent guesses at the Ferrari questions. The rest were easy.

beaufort1
19th Sep 2013, 16:33
dubbleyew eight there is actually a Hummer over here.:)

rgbrock1 I guess you'd never lose a car like that, looks as if it would glow in the dark. :}

Lightning Mate Not a bad idea. There are lot of new manufacturers out there. There was one I'd never heard of called Dacia. I'd looked further and discovered they are made in Romania and are a subsidiary of Renault. Sounds like a right dogs breakfast.:rolleyes: I thought Volvo had folded but saw a TV advertisement for them the other day.

G-CPTN
19th Sep 2013, 16:36
I scored 100% but only because of intelligent guesses at the Ferrari questions. The rest were easy.
Same here.

Ancient Observer
19th Sep 2013, 16:40
cumulus,
Both of mine lived outside most of the time.
Agree about the noise. S3 was superior.

Lightning Mate
19th Sep 2013, 16:43
Lightning Mate Not a bad idea. There are lot of new
manufacturers out there. There was one I'd never heard of called Dacia. I'd
looked further and discovered they are made in Romania and are a subsidiary of
Renault. Sounds like a right dogs breakfast.:rolleyes: I thought Volvo had folded but saw a TV advertisement for them the
other day.



Don't be fooled - they are fairly highly rated if you like that kind of thing, and they sell well on price because of no frills.

When you say Volvo I think you mean Saab.

The SSK
19th Sep 2013, 16:47
Could you really drive a car called a Duster?

I believe the Floormop and the Squeegee are under development

beaufort1
19th Sep 2013, 16:55
Lightning Mate it was an advert for the new V40, pretty sure it was Volvo.

The SSK Yes, you make a good point. It is very basic after my current car, although there are features like cruise control I've never used.:)

Capetonian
19th Sep 2013, 16:58
I drove a Dacia recently, No worse than a Renault (OK ... that's not great) but possibly better.

Saab have folded (we have one .......) not Volvo.

G-CPTN
19th Sep 2013, 17:02
There are several Korean brands (such as Kia and Hyundai) building 4x4s that are, presumably, cheap.

I don't know about their reliability.

(If you have a reliable car you won't need to worry about repairs - other than tyres and suchlike.)

There are also 4x4 versions of several Nissans and Toyotas (as well as Volvos and Fords of course). Then there's the Germans.

Effluent Man
19th Sep 2013, 17:48
Beaufort - Horse and Cart?

GGR
19th Sep 2013, 18:12
1965 Mini Van. Paid £22 for it from a local in Upavon whilst up the hill doing my bit.

1967 Hillman Minx. Found it in the car-park at RAF Bishops Court with the keys in. Tinkered about and established the previous owner had left town, fitted new battery and fuel.....bingo.
It had no metal in the front wing tops and driving through Downpatrick in the rain caused people to dive into doorways to avoid the soaking. No MOT required there in 1973.

Did some of my finest work with the lovely Audrey from Killileagh till all hours in this car. When I left I tossed the keys at the bloke in the next room and bade it and the RAF goodbye. Happy days.

G-CPTN
19th Sep 2013, 18:12
The point that I was trying to make was that there are many all-wheel-drive versions of otherwise 'normal' vehicles (including the Volvo V40 fastback estate). IMO the V40 is no longer worthy of being considered as an estate - it's a coupe . . .

It depends on your budget (and make preference).

A Llan Drover Defender would probably the most 'robust' and relatively uncomplicated, but reliability and loading height are not favourable.

All the usual softroaders (such as BMW X1, X3 and X5) are probably too high, so you are looking for an estate car (such as a Volvo V70 - though I think they just do the XC70 now - you would have to consider secondhand and that might be expensive in repairs, being out of warranty).

My daughter has a Honda CRV and then there's the Toyota Rav4.

beaufort1
19th Sep 2013, 18:26
I used to drive what I considered proper Volvo estates for years, the last one being an 850 series. Loads of room for the hounds and a flat and low floor through the tail gate, but the closest main dealer I wouldn't use and I don't personally know any in the UK. A Landrover I would consider but the access is too high. I also need good headroom for the dogs when they are sitting down.
I'm tempted to go for a lower spec Subaru as this one has been faultless and very reliable. I'm in a Catch 22 situation as there is no real point in spending lots of money on a car in which the longest journey I undertake is less then ten minutes, on the other hand I need something reliable as there are no main dealers on island. There is no MOT over here and there is a type of inverted snobbery with cars, the bigger the wreck the more kudos there is it seems. Quite a few no longer have rear windows and it is a badge of honour to have a wing mirror attached only by the wires for the heating element. :O Nobody locks cars here and quite a few of the features now fitted as standard are totally superfluous to requirements.
Effluent Man I don't have a good record with equines, I'm not totally convinced they are herbivores as quite a few over the years have tried to take chunks out of me. :suspect:

Ancient Observer
19th Sep 2013, 20:55
The problem with Volvo estates in the UK is that they are all owned by teachers who hog the outside lane of motorways at 69mph, and then get upset when you undertake them.

Super VC-10
19th Sep 2013, 22:25
Morris 8 Series E, LMM 820. Best car I ever had, could handle 2ft of floodwater no problem, always started on the handle. Was great in summer with front windscreen wound open (goggles on, flies bloody hurt at 35 mph!). Only drawback was the 6v candles for headights.

Loose rivets
19th Sep 2013, 22:27
Right then . . .


Thhhaaaaaaaaaaaaarp!


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v703/walnaze/Cars/E500Sport004.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/walnaze/media/Cars/E500Sport004.jpg.html)

Displaying the display that displayed the dismaying, disc-ordinate, discombobulating, dis-anything you can think of - load of problems all programed into one car by a programer that went to nasty-programing university . . . and got a first. All put into a car with paper thin engineering at a time when those in Stuttgart were copying the Americans in how to make a car that would just about roll off the production line before falling to pieces.

Bum! Knickers! May James May take over MB and have Jeremy Clarkson as his chief designer. Oh wait, he probably has.


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v703/walnaze/Cars/DashboardE500Sport013.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/walnaze/media/Cars/DashboardE500Sport013.jpg.html)

Capetonian
19th Sep 2013, 22:35
Only drawback was the 6v candles for headights.I drove a 6v VW Beetle in SA. Driving it back from Wilderness to CPT on a stormy night over the passes was an experience. It didn't have enough power to have headlights and windscreen wipers on at the same time, the lights dimmed and the wipers ground to a crawl, so you had to alternate between a wipe of the blades, then the lights for 10 seconds to see the road, then lights off and flick the wipers .........

I also had one of those Ford Anglias in Rhodesia, with the inward sloping rear window and the windscreen wipers driven off the inlet manifold pressure, so when you accelerated they stopped.

http://bestsellingcarsblog.com/wp-content/uploads/1967/01/Ford-Anglia-UK-1965.jpg

I upgraded to a Lotus Cortina .......... now THAT was a car!

ShyTorque
19th Sep 2013, 23:17
I got 60%.

80% for me, the two Ferarri questions I wrongly guessed (not far out) - I had very little idea because they hold no interest for me.

My present steed is a Q car. A mundane looking, 4 door, diesel saloon - but with twice as much torque as my previous car (2.5 Beemer). Will easily spin its wheels in third gear on a dry road by flooring the accelerator pedal. :E

Effluent Man
19th Sep 2013, 23:28
Did the 105E Anglia have vacuum wipers? I think it didn't from my memory.Just the 100E Prefect an the sit up and beg forerunner.

Gordon17
20th Sep 2013, 10:03
If anybody fancies going back in time to their early cars there are some very low mileage old Triumphs for sale here - Three 'as new' Triumphs for auction next weekend | | Honest John (http://classics.honestjohn.co.uk/news/auction-news/2013-09/three-as-new-triumphs-for-auction-next-weekend/)

My first car was a 1964 Anglia 105E and it didn't have the vacuum wipers, but my father had a 100E which did. I paid £80 for the Anglia, then had to pay someone to take it away about a year later. I replaced it with a MK1 Cortina for £30 which lasted 2 years. It had very few teeth on the ring gear so I had to try to park it facing downhill. Then when the starter motor hit one of the "bald spots" I could roll it forward in gear a little bit in the hope of finding a good bit.

G-CPTN
20th Sep 2013, 12:23
Volvo P1800 Reaches three million miles | | Honest John (http://classics.honestjohn.co.uk/news/general-news/2013-09/volvo-p1800-reaches-3-million-miles/)

Frequently Asked Questions | Honest John (http://www.honestjohn.co.uk/faq/making-a-car-last/)

I wonder what has been changed?

Original engine? Gearbox?

vulcanised
20th Sep 2013, 12:32
Agreed on the wipers on 105E, never came across vacuum ones.

Dan Winterland
20th Sep 2013, 13:36
Austin 1100, much like the one John Cleese was thrashing in the Fawlty Towers clip. Tartan Red as well. It lost it's life when I drove it through a hedge due to (driver induced) brake failure.

Great car (well, it seemed so at the time), but not easy to shag in it. A bit prone to corrosion as well. On a quiet day, you could hear it rusting!

rgbrock1
20th Sep 2013, 13:43
Well I'm certainly glad no one, yet, has claimed a Ford Pinto as their first car. (And possibly last.)

Because we all know that this:

http://static.ddmcdn.com/gif/1971-1980-ford-pinto-1979.jpg

Too often became this:

http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/7/7c/Car_explosion.jpg

vulcanised
20th Sep 2013, 15:22
Was it the Pinto that Nader made his name on?

rgbrock1
20th Sep 2013, 15:37
vulcanised:

Nope, Nader became known via his campaign against the
Chevrolet Corvair which was known for often winding upside down due to loss of control the car was notorious for.

The Ford Pinto, on the other hand, handled rather well. Unless struck in the rear. Upon which it rendered the occupants similar in appearance to burned marshmallows.

Lightning Mate
20th Sep 2013, 16:05
So who's going to start a thread "Cars you have shagged in" ?

fenland787
20th Sep 2013, 18:09
Super VC-10
Morris 8 Series EPah, modern car - mine was a Series 1, 1936 a truly wonderful thing! Best bits were running-boards big enough to run on, a vast sliding sun-roof cunningly recessed so it could hold about 3 gallons of rain water that would fall on you when opened and a hand throttle so you could set it, stand up head and shoulders through the sun roof and steer with the top of the wheel. Didn't half p*** the cops off - I kept telling them brakes were for wimps besides which Morris 8 brakes didn't slow you up much anyway.

Oh yes, and a cute little roller blind in the rear window operated by a cord running along the roof lining to a ring above the passenger door - never did figure out what that was about*.

* - could be related to Lightning's post above?

G-CPTN
20th Sep 2013, 20:24
The rear window blind was to prevent dazzle from the headlamps of following cars.

As it also effectively disabled the rear-view mirror, it was a questionable accessory.

vulcanised
20th Sep 2013, 20:39
Can't remember the model of car but one of mine had that roller blind.

To make it doubly effective when being blinded by headlights in mirror I stuck a sheet of tinfoil to the blind.

G-CPTN
20th Sep 2013, 21:37
Many pre-War saloon cars had an opening 'sunshine roof' fitted (despite it being a complication to the structure).

I suppose vehicle speeds were low and therefore pootling along with the roof open was more usual than blatting along at high speed like today.

I did have a Sierra with a sunroof (which was great when driving down to Southern Germany - which I did regularly as my company headquarters were there).

I haven't been in the right place when choosing subsequent cars - it would have required a special order or an expensive aftermarket fit.

Of course the Renault 4 had the ultimate sunroof - the complete roof folded away leaving both front and rear sections open - I had forgotten about that.

The side windows of the Sunbeam Rapier wound down completely leaving no pillars - what one of my friends described as "The windiest form of transport known to Man". I wonder where he is now - he used to drive us young men around in his MkVII Jaguar with "mucho gusto".

Worrals in the wilds
20th Sep 2013, 22:46
There are several Korean brands (such as Kia and Hyundai) building 4x4s that are, presumably, cheap.

I don't know about their reliability.This is an ongoing discussion topic in Australia at the moment. We're also getting even cheaper Chinese 4x4s that look okay, but you wonder how they'll go in tough conditions. A mate has a Korean 4WD and after we'd all finished laughing at him he took it to a couple of hairy places (soft sand, oncoming tides and rutted tracks). It passed the test reasonably well, but I'd still be concerned about long term reliability if it was being driven off-road regularly.

IME 4WDs are often like gym memberships; people buy them thinking they're going to be tackling the Canning Stock Route every second weekend, but four years later they find that the only time they engaged 4WD was in a muddy carpark at a music festival. :\

As far as seriously reliable offroad 4WD performance goes, I'd say the hands down Aussie opinion poll winner is the Toyota Landcruiser. Range Rovers and Nissan Patrols have their devoted fanclubs (personally I like the Patrol) but the Landcruiser always seems to be the one to beat.

I have a standing offer to supply a bottle of Burnett Club Bundaberg Rum to anyone who can produce a reliable photo of a Porsche Cayenne 4WD in a genuinely offroad location. So far, no takers; I guess it would be a shame to chip the expensive paintwork. :rolleyes::}

MG23
20th Sep 2013, 22:55
The Ford Pinto, on the other hand, handled rather well. Unless struck in the rear. Upon which it rendered the occupants similar in appearance to burned marshmallows.

Except the actual safety record in the real world was really no worse than similar cars of its era. All small American cars of that era were death-traps by modern standards.

500N
20th Sep 2013, 22:57
Worrals

A few of the Great Wall 4WDs have been purchased by Aboriginies
and I went in one last year.

not bad all round but whether it will survive the roads in general up north of Aus (or any rough road stuff), especially Ruts and corregations which as we all know will shake a car to bits in no time.

Some how a combo of how Abos drive and the conditions PLUS
being harder to get things fixed, I think a few will be left to rot
in a shorter time than a Land Cruiser.

Agree re the Land Cruiser. The Hilux is the other one in the "commerical"
or younger market.

4WD are becoming a bit complicated for what a lot of outback people want
and correspondingly the price for good 2nd hand older one's has gone through the roof.

G-CPTN
20th Sep 2013, 23:05
especially Ruts and corregations which as we all know will shake a car to bits in no time.

We had reproductions of Australian 'washboard' and 'spoondrains' to run our test vehicles over so I know what you mean.

500N
20th Sep 2013, 23:13
G-CPTN

Where was that ?

They are something else and the ease of putting a car sideways
on corrugations, I am surprised that their aren't more accidents.

Australia is a good country to test cars in as we have every type
of driving imaginable with a little travel. Probably the only thing
we don't have is really really cold weather and snow and snow
or ice driving.

I know one company did all testing here in Aus and then the
snow / ice / cold bit in Norway or up that way.

Worrals in the wilds
20th Sep 2013, 23:33
4WD are becoming a bit complicated for what a lot of outback people wantAnd with far too much reliance on electronics. The problems are 1. corrugations shake the crud out of electronics and 2. Try finding someone in Windorah who can fix them :uhoh:. Best option is frequently a flat bed truck back to civilisation, which isn't very helpful.

The loudest country boy I know raves about the Great Walls, so it's interesting that they're popular in your neck of the woods. His theory is that they're an exact replica of a c1995 Japanese 4WD, and what's wrong with that? I've no doubt that he has a good point, but it will be interesting to see how they wear. Having seen the western desert people getting around horrendous conditions in 2WD Falcons and Commodores :ok:, your friends may be enjoying the better suspension and 4WD options.

We had Hiluxes for a while, and they were great...when they were driving. All sorts of bugs and massive gear box issues though; after a couple of complete rebuilds the powers-that-be got very grumpy. This was under relatively easy conditions, though high mileage. After that experience I'd say they're a great car if someone else is paying for the repairs. However, a lot of people rave about them.
We had reproductions of Australian 'washboard' and 'spoondrains' to run our test vehicles over so I know what you mean. As the signs in Cooktown say; 'Cape York, only 9,658,000 corrugations to go.':ouch: For a hyper-realistic simulation you really need to add a couple of wild pig carcasses stretched across the road at innopportune blind corners and a few numpties towing caravans where caravans Should Not Tread. :}

500N
20th Sep 2013, 23:42
Worrals

"so it's interesting that they're popular in your neck of the woods."

Not sure if that was directed at me but the Aboriginies tend to buy
what is wha and looks nice and shiny for a good price. I don't think
that they think "long term".

In can be a replica of anything it likes but if the build / steel quality
isn't there then you have no hope of long term lasting.

It will be interesting to see how the paint / metal work handles
the wet, tropical heat etc and whether it rusts quickly.

Worrals in the wilds
20th Sep 2013, 23:56
Not sure if that was directed at me but the Aboriginies tend to buy what is wha and looks nice and shiny for a good price. I don't think
that they think "long term".Sounds like most modern car buyers. From what I can see, quality went out in about 1990. :(

It was a reference to you being in a remote area with an Indigenous population. I didn't think you were personally contributing to the local rock art and dance tradition, though I stand to be corrected ;).

I think the price has a lot to do with the Great Wall's popularity; traditional 4WDs are expensive even by affluent city standards. It's certainly contributed to sales in the Big Smoke, particularly to older males who don't care so much about the cool factor. As for build quality it probably sucks, but aside from the Range Rovers, Landcruisers and expensive German cars, what doesn't these days? :(

500N
21st Sep 2013, 00:03
Re popularity with older folk. I think what you said before sums it up

"IME 4WDs are often like gym memberships; people buy them thinking they're going to be tackling the Canning Stock Route every second weekend, but four years later they find that the only time they engaged 4WD was in a muddy carpark at a music festival. http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/wibble.gif"


"I didn't think you were personally contributing to the local rock art and dance tradition, though I stand to be corrected ;). "

You should see us at night, dancing round the fire, pissed as farts,
it makes quite a sight :O ;)

Hyundai took a few years to get the quality right, I think GW will as well.

It will also be little things, the way the roof is shaped that collects water
or a bumper that collects water or along the edge of the bonnet and all
will rust through quickly.

G-CPTN
21st Sep 2013, 00:29
G-CPTN
Where was that ?
Vauxhall Motors Millbrook Proving Ground (http://www.millbrook.co.uk/Page/Home).

Hydromet
21st Sep 2013, 01:06
...a few numpties towing caravans where caravans Should Not Tread.
Back in the mid '70s we came across such a numptie on the Strzelecki track, towing what had once been a double bogie caravan behind what had not long previously been a new Ford Falcon.
The studs had sheared off the front trailer wheels of the caravan, the draw bar had bent upwards at about 20 degrees, the rear bumper of the Falcon was gone and the body from the rear pillar back had been panelbeaten to a shape not envisioned by the designers.
But, he had saved the $600 that it was going to cost him to rail it to Adelaide from Qld.

Loose rivets
21st Sep 2013, 01:30
Went to Lover's Lane in a Mk I Zodiac. Nice it were, and the car was nice as well. Hadn't been there long and plod comes along - looking for underage girls. He opened the door and shone his torch onto the totally naked beauty sitting beside me. Long blond hair and massive . . .

No one spoke for what seemed like a quarter of an hour. Then I said, well, we'd better put something around her. He said, "Yes, cover up, dear. Well, you're obviously over 16."

He slowly turned the beam from her glistening form and bumped into the young PC standing behind him with his mouth open. They walked away in a way that made me think of a song of that eara.

'A copper's lot is not a happy one.' I came up for air just as they decided to have one last look from 30 feet away.


Funnier, but not quite as norty, was sitting beside the Serpentine in broad daylight in my MkII Zephyr. Turquoise it were. And yes, it was THE Serpentine. I just don't believe it now. Just pulled onto the footpath and drove to a nice spot, got in the back and set about it with me girlfriend.

The windows were so steamed up I could only just see the bobby's helmet as he tapped politely on the window. I criiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinge to think about it now. I opened the window a crack and said, Yes? Nothing else, just, yes?

He said, quite calmly, "you can't do that here."

He helped me reverse as I had steamed up windows.

Oh, just remembered, I had to reengage the pins to stand the back of the bench seat vertical. I'd cut the pipe frame and put two huge steel pins in which came out easily when charged with expectation, but were quite a trial to re-locate while lifting said seatback and trying to conceal one's bare . . . well, you get the picture.

London was so . . . tolerant in those days.


Edit. I have a lovely picture of the first one here on this computer. I wish I could display it, but what if . . . just what if, one of the regulars said, "Hey, that's my mum!" (or grandma!)




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G-CPTN
21st Sep 2013, 17:50
Parked up with a naked young lady.

Policeman taps on the window and asks "What are you doing, Sir?"
Reply "Nothing, Constable . . . "

"Well get out and let a man get in!"




Actually, as you stated, they were only interested as to whether the female was over 16.

ShyTorque
21st Sep 2013, 18:01
I have a standing offer to supply a bottle of Burnett Club Bundaberg Rum to anyone who can produce a reliable photo of a Porsche Cayenne 4WD in a genuinely offroad location. So far, no takers; I guess it would be a shame to chip the expensive paintwork.

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y290/shytorque/13porsche-cayenne-s-diesel-12_zpsf713b166.jpg (http://s7.photobucket.com/user/shytorque/media/13porsche-cayenne-s-diesel-12_zpsf713b166.jpg.html)

When can I pick up my eight bottles? ;)

ShyTorque
21st Sep 2013, 18:04
The windows were so steamed up I could only just see the bobby's helmet as he tapped politely on the window.

But could he see yours?

Damned doggers - even the police are at it now..... :oh:

11Fan
21st Sep 2013, 18:46
I guess it would be a shame to chip the expensive paintwork.

Reminded of a conversation I had with a former neighbor who bought one of those Hummer H2's, similar to this.

http://o.aolcdn.com/commerce/images/hummer_03h2_angularfront_Regular.jpg

I suggested we should take it out and put it though its paces. He said "he didn't want to get it dirty."

"WTF did you buy it for" I asked. :ugh:

groundfine
21st Sep 2013, 19:40
1958 Ford Zephyr Mk2. Still remember the Reg #. 3 spd column change, bench seat, can't recall whether it had seatbelts at all. £15. Used as Wedding Car for the frankly hippy wedding a couple of years later. Mates stuck wild flowers with sellotape over the rusty bits (actually over most of it).
Free parking too in central London square at Uni digs. Seemed quite normal at the time, unbelievable now!

timmcat
21st Sep 2013, 21:46
My work involves evaluating and driving preproduction commercial vehicles before they are revealed and launched to the market (I predict future residual values primarily for any organisation (usually banks / leasing companies etc) who need to manage future risk) Without wanting to sound arrogant I tend to deal at a pretty senior level with manufacturers who market vehicles in the UK.
Obviously lots of that is confidential but, what I can say is that most are looking cautiously over their shoulders at what the Chinese are up to. I've driven the Great Wall Steed, and all its competitors - its not as good as the rest is pretty much all respects but its not that bad, and, its cheap....

Fareastdriver
21st Sep 2013, 22:04
The crunch come with commercial vehicles. Cars are simple, they run along the assembly line and robots weld the metal and people clip together the rest. Trucks and buses are far more labour intensive; they have to be screwed and bolted together.

It is far cheaper to assemble a truck in China or the Far East and ship it over to Europe than it is to build it here.

rab-k
21st Sep 2013, 22:17
http://users.skynet.be/fa241585/aasite/hist/voy-02.jpg

Opel Kadett station wagon.

Also called Caravan or Kombi.

Vauxhall had a similar model called Chevette Estate.



Not bad G-CPTN...

Opel Ascona Caravan

And what a heap of ***t it was too. :}

500N
21st Sep 2013, 22:23
What was it with that deep mustard colour ?

My grand mother had a Marina in that colour, yuk !

G-CPTN
21st Sep 2013, 22:24
Opel Ascona Caravan
You got me!
So, the predecessor to the 'Cavalier' . . .

Effluent Man
21st Sep 2013, 23:28
The Opel is a metallic paint.The Marina was Harvest Gold and non-metallic (Early 70's car paint rep)

Worrals in the wilds
22nd Sep 2013, 00:05
When can I pick up my eight bottles?

Fair enough. That's the first I've ever seen. PM me your postal address and I'll send you one bottle next time I go to Bundy. :) Eight would be bad for your health and my bank balance. :}

Hydromet
22nd Sep 2013, 00:05
My grand mother had a Marina in that colour, yuk !Come to think of it, I can't remember seeing a Marina in any other colour.

G-CPTN
22nd Sep 2013, 00:30
I had a Maxi in the (Desert Sand?) putty colour:-

http://slatford.co.uk/Pictures%20of%20Cars/Austin/Austin-Maxi.jpg

Effluent Man
22nd Sep 2013, 23:00
That's Harvest Gold.There was also a khaki/olive called Tundra.

ShyTorque
22nd Sep 2013, 23:45
Fair enough. That's the first I've ever seen. PM me your postal address and I'll send you one bottle next time I go to Bundy. Eight would be bad for your health and my bank balance.

Worralls, thanks - I'm quite happy with a virtual bottle! :ok: