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arvida
13th Sep 2013, 19:25
hi,

what should be a fair and a low pay for a corporate PA-31-350 pilot SPIFR???

please mention the country associated with the salary please

thanx

Tinstaafl
14th Sep 2013, 01:12
How long is a piece of string? However.... SE USA: Mine varies depending on my employer/customer and the charging method. $300-350 /day or $125 /flight hour, $200 /non-flying day away from base. Plus expenses (usually hotels, meals, transport between airport & hotel), of course.

WX Man
17th Sep 2013, 09:09
When I flew one a while back (2006), my salary was £18,000 (GBP) per year. So £1500, which back then was about USD 2200 per month. My contract said 37 hours per week and 28 days holiday (these are standard for the UK).

This basically equals GBP 77 per day, although this was a full time salaried position. The freelancers that the company was employing were paid £100 per day for up to 5 block hours, then £20 per hour thereafter.

doubleu-anker
17th Sep 2013, 09:39
Actually your pay should be higher than jet crews for example!

In the PA 31, you are down among the icing and wx, the engines are not as simple to operate, as a jet engine. Engine out, the risks are high. Single crew, so the work load is high. I take it you are doing the job of 3 people? CC including, preflight, duties. etc., etc.

Aviation is really screwed up, is it not? You have ab initio "instructors" trying to pass on their skills when they have very few skills themselves to pass on, as they are just out of flight school for the most part. The instructors should be made up of experienced pilots who have experience, not gained in the classroom, who have nothing to gain from just sitting there clocking hours. At least the military seemed to have recognized this.

Dave Clarke Fife
17th Sep 2013, 17:21
The instructors should be made up of experienced pilots who have experience, not gained in the classroom, who have nothing to gain from just sitting there clocking hours. At least the military seemed to have recognized this.


So how do you explain away a first tourist creamie then??;)

doubleu-anker
17th Sep 2013, 18:25
Noted and good point. It did x my mind after hitting the submit button for the second time.

Trim Stab
17th Sep 2013, 18:41
Actually your pay should be higher than jet crews for example!

I don't disagree with that - spent most of my career flying business jets - now flying multi-pistons single pilot doing aerial work. Chugging around in the weather with no radar, minimal anti-ice, marginal single-engine performance, with cameras and HUDs to look after, flying IFR/VFR and NFR depending on mission - way harder than flying pax from A to B on autopilot, and way more fun too. Also better paid now!

papazulu
17th Sep 2013, 20:25
The instructors should be made up of experienced pilots who have experience, not gained in the classroom, who have nothing to gain from just sitting there clocking hours.

Forgive me the OT but do you mind to enlighten me explaining what other ways an humble and committed wannabe has to climb the career ladder (P2F do not need to answer...) ?

I'd like to make your life simple: let's assume that we live in an almost-perfect world where SE/MEP hrs still count something (i.e. USA where 0 to CFI is semi-mandatory before landing a Part 135 or Corporate/Regional job) just to give you something to work on...

Aviation is really screwed up, is it not?

Yep, it is BIG TIME! And I'm going to tell you where you can find SOME of the culprits, at least where I come from...:E

At least the military seemed to have recognized this.

PZ :mad:

doubleu-anker
17th Sep 2013, 20:43
PZ

Without hijacking the thread, this no other way. unless you go the mil route. I went through the same system, instructing as a first job. That's how I know. The money was bad. I enjoyed instructing but couldn't survive on the money. Actually psychology is also very important when instructing.