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Lumps
12th Sep 2013, 22:37
Am I reading the regs right - say if three airline pilots got together to for a specialist charter operation with one light twin, would that be prohibited as they are already employed full time by airlines, i.e., no one could act as chief pilot. Say the business is profitable, but not enough for a full-time wage.

Seems strange the rules would stifle enterprise so explicitly. Can't see how running a light twin occasionally on the odd day off (taking in consideration duty times etc) and ensuing paperwork for this as chief pilot would be beyond anyone.

717tech
12th Sep 2013, 23:13
Personally I would rather the "small" operation had the full attention of the CP rather than being too busy with other commitments.

solowflyer
12th Sep 2013, 23:31
From my limited knowledge should be ok just can't act as cp in two different places.

LeadSled
13th Sep 2013, 00:33
------ had the full attention of the CP rather than being too busy with other commitments.

717tec,
Gimme a break --- an operation needs a full time CP, as well as the person flying for a fleet of one single light twin????
It's this sort of overkill thinking that is killing GA in Australia.
Tootle pip!!

Horatio Leafblower
13th Sep 2013, 02:56
CAO 82.x refers

Operator can have a part-time CP if they only operate ONE aircraft.

...that's a single airframe, not one "type".

CASA might come back at you stating something along the lines of "the intention of the CAO is that..." :ugh:

I have seen some funny interpretations of this within a single office...


:suspect:

Mach E Avelli
13th Sep 2013, 04:03
It would make more sense to base the CP requirement on hours flown. E.g. one (or even three) aircraft flying a grand total of 500 hours in a year hardly justifies a full time, dedicated CP. At most, the CP would be controlling one or two other crews - unless the operation is very inefficient, in which case it will go broke and CASA's desired outcome is achieved.
But one aircraft flying 1500 hours in a year, or three or more crews on payroll, is an entirely different story. At that point, if an operation can't afford a full time CP, it will go broke without CASA's help.