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albatross
15th Aug 2013, 03:00
Please excuse if posted previously.

Aeolus (http://www.ict-aeolus.eu/about.html)

http://www.ict-aeolus.eu/images/horns_rev.jpg

500guy
15th Aug 2013, 16:46
Interestingly enough they also disrupt the normal stratified temperature layers of air on calm mornings and create a localized global warming phenominon that can be clearly viewed via satelite.

Arm out the window
15th Aug 2013, 22:06
Yes, and the low frequency sound waves put the chooks off the lay too! Apparently they're also a danger to low flying helicopters, so say the NIMBYs in my area.

fly911
16th Aug 2013, 11:45
...and create a localized global warming phenomenon
"Localized" "Global warming" Isn't that an oxymoron?

They do create a tremendous amount of power. Sure beats the global warming caused by burning oil and coal.

16th Aug 2013, 12:08
They do create a tremendous amount of power. Sure beats the global warming caused by burning oil and coal.only when the wind blows and only if you ignore what is expended during their production.

SLFguy
16th Aug 2013, 12:19
only if you ignore what is expended during their production.

Utter tosh! Please do some research before spouting crap.

alicopter
16th Aug 2013, 13:11
to do the research, try this as it makes interesting reading...

The Telegraph - We could soon be paying billions for this wind back-up | EPAW - European Platform Against Windfarms (http://www.epaw.org/echoes.php?lang=en&article=n127)

once more we are being taken for a ride...

edited because of wrong link posting... here is the right one

EPAW - European Platform Against Windfarms (http://www.epaw.org/index.php?lang=en)

scotbill
16th Aug 2013, 14:29
Utter tosh! Please do some research before spouting crap. It would appear that you are the one who hasn't done the research.

Wind turbines supply power in an erratic way which is not what the grid actually wants. They require an equivalent amount of conventional power as back up if the wind stops blowing at times of peak demand.
Their construction produces all the carbon they are allegedly going to save us.

Their owners are paid millions in compensation when the wind does not blow.

There seem few grounds for disagreeing with the contention that they represent the greatest scam ever for transferring money from poor people (we consumers via our power bills) to rich people (landlords with space for turbines)

grumpytroll
16th Aug 2013, 14:50
600,000 birds killed annually...one million bats killed annually..the mosquitoes that carry diseases love these things more that any person on the planet. AND these numbers are just in the U.S. As the old saying goes, "its the cure that kills ya!"


http://www.forbes.com/sites/realspin/2013/07/16/angry-birds-no-but-obamas-wind-energy-subsidies-have-them-very-

frightened/http://www.birdwatchingdaily.com/blog/2013/07/17/new-study-estimates-573000-birds-died-at-wind-farms-last-year/

If these links don't work, just google it up. There are dozens of related stories. The environmental groups are nervous and scratching their heads wondering how their support for wind farms has now made them complicit in killing many millions of our precious wildlife. The windfarm planned for Texas that included thousands of windmills was completely scratched because it was predicted that that project alone would kill millions of migratory birds annually. Because of the wind patterns in the region, It would have been ideal for energy generation. Unfortunately the birds have been using the same wind patterns for thousands of years as corridors for their migration to the Gulf and into Mexico. Thank God they cancelled that project or the environmental devastation would have been catastrophic.

Across the globe, you cannot justify killing many millions of birds annually. In a short time it will take a massive negative toll on our planetary eco system.

206 jock
16th Aug 2013, 16:37
It seems alternative energy might be all-round bad for our avian friends. I recall being taken by a guy to the Solnova generator site in Seville when we were doing a job out there. The purpose of the trip was to watch birds flying around the site.

What he didn't warn me beforehand, was that any bird flying into the reflected 'beams' anywhere near the top of the tower actually vaporised as you watched them, in a little puff of smoke.....

Solnova Solar Power Station, Sanlúcar la Mayor, Seville - Power Technology (http://www.power-technology.com/projects/solnova-solar-power-station/)

Ian Corrigible
16th Aug 2013, 17:05
...not that non-renewables are avian friendly: Alberta oil sands could cost 166 million birds over 30-50 years (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/story/2008/12/02/edm-birds-oilsands-report.html).

Still, maybe the 300 tons of radioactive water leaking from Fukushima into the Pacific every day (http://www.dw.de/fish-stocks-threatened-by-fukushima-leaks/a-17017871) will lead to a new mutation of flying fish to replace the birds. :E

Anyway, neat photo albatross!

I/C

Overdrive
16th Aug 2013, 21:42
There seem few grounds for disagreeing with the contention that they represent the greatest scam ever for transferring money from poor people (we consumers via our power bills) to rich people (landlords with space for turbines)
Thank you. This is the prime and initial reason for this whole disgusting debacle. I can think of no other example of such huge and rapid "investment" across (and offshore) the whole country (UK) in recent times, since the motorway network perhaps. Only the guaranteed access to such financial plunder ensures the compliance of the relevant parties.

The existence of the compensation scheme tells its own story. Ditto the function to consume power to artificially drive the things during longer periods of nil or ineffective wind (dressed I've seen, as an engineering "need" of the system).