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PANDAMATENGA
30th Jul 2013, 08:42
PC running Vista with Virgin as ISP and Wireless router.
On a normal start up,after the desktop has loaded there is a network icon on the bottom row which lights up followed by the little Virgin symbol which indicates you are connected. Lately the network symbol does not light up and the virgin symbol does not appear for at least 10 minutes.Whilst waiting for this you cannot do anything even off-line stuff and it will not log-off or restart either.Out of frustration I then do a hard shut down and start again and on the 2nd attempt it normally starts a usual although last night on the 2nd attemp I just waited and it took 10 mins to connect.
I run AVG and Advanced System Care free anti-virus and have done for a long time without any issues although I recently installed IOBit Antimalaware.
Anyone have an idea what could be causing this?
Thanks
Panda

mixture
30th Jul 2013, 08:51
Anyone have an idea what could be causing this?

yeah....

PC running Vista

:E


Get yourself up to Windows 7 or 8..... Vista is a pile of smelly excrement which has absolutely no use in real life IT. It was a ghastly operating system.

(Oh, and get yourself more RAM whilst you're at it).

BOAC
30th Jul 2013, 09:17
Did this start after installing IOBit Antimalaware? Is it set to run a start-up scan? How 'clean and efficient' is the machone? Do you run CCleaner for example?

PANDAMATENGA
30th Jul 2013, 09:23
Mixture-Up till about 3 weeks ago I had no probs whatsoever so Vista was ok for my needs.I have 2gb Ram anyway.

BOAC- Yes,on reflection I guess it may have started when I installed the Iobit.I will remove it tonight and see if there is any difference.Thanks for that
Panda

green granite
30th Jul 2013, 09:35
If what BOAC says doesn't help then:

Shut down the PC, switch off the router and leave for a minute or so while you pour a strong drink, once the router has fully re-initialised switch on the PC and get it to connect and then down load a Wi-Fi sniffer program such as netsurveyor (http://nutsaboutnets.com/netsurveyor-wifi-scanner/) and see what other channels might be interfering with yours, Ideally you need at least 2 free channels either side of yours. Change the channel on your router to suit.

Caution if you download from C-NET you will end up with tool-bars and other crap you didn't want.

Milo Minderbinder
30th Jul 2013, 18:59
both the Iobit software and "Advanced System Care" are useless bloat programs that approach the definition of scamware
get rid of both

but my guess is that your virgin router is u/s -they're a heap of unreliable ****. Doesn't help that you've installed the Virgin wireless client software on the PC - that just confuses things and makes diagnosis harder

PANDAMATENGA
31st Jul 2013, 10:28
Thanks for your tips gentlemen.
I removed Iobit last night and this morning it all fired up quickly as it used to.

Milo,if I remove Advanced System Care I will only have AVG-will that be enough or do you recommend something else?

Thanks
Panda

Milo Minderbinder
31st Jul 2013, 16:21
the advanced system care doesn't actually do anything to preventing infections.

its supposed to be a system optimiser .....but doesn't work.

Personally I's uninstall both the system care and AVG, and replace them with Avast A/V As long as its tuned correctly, that usually is enough

BOAC
31st Jul 2013, 16:38
Seconded. Be careful how you remove AVG - use the manufacturer's removal from their website, or 'bits' can hang around. Avast (Free) has proved to be as reliable as any I have tried.