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SMOC
30th Jul 2013, 04:29
As the headline says.

The stupid single taxiway system around the terminal that has planes taxiing from one side to the other and the amount of stand delays due to traffic on the single taxiway is pathetic, it was completely unavoidable you'd think with designing an airport with a clean sheet.

If anyone saw the series BBC Two - Airport Live (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p018t3xg) at one point you hear them talking about how fantastic it is to have the "toaster system" a rectangular terminal, two taxiways, rectangular terminal, taxiway, terminal, taxiway, etc. They make a point on how easy moving A/C from one side of the airfield to the other is and vv.

Yet I see the HK airport in all their wisdom are going to do it all again with the third runway, don't these idiots consult ATC or pilots to discuss the layout of the taxiways and the best way to move A/C from one side of the field to the other, look at the convoluted routing they've created exiting off the new runway.

Future Development - Long-Term Development - Airport Layout Plan - Hong Kong International Airport (http://www.hongkongairport.com/eng/future/long-term-development/airport-layout-plan.html)

At least they didn't follow this idea.

http://arnoldmok.files.wordpress.com/2013/01/hkia-diagram.jpg


However the benifit would be a new CX city and hotel from a clean sheet which is another well thought out disaster.

Meccano
30th Jul 2013, 15:39
The Feng Shui is perfect.

ByAirMail
30th Jul 2013, 17:15
If I have it correct, that red line is our proposal for the 3rd runway? If so, i suggest you look at the high ground to the South, making any approach / take off impossible. Or did I miss the point?

reynoldsno1
30th Jul 2013, 23:43
At least they didn't follow this idea.

The last I heard was that the third runway was to be a parallel construction to the North. HKIA & HKCAD seem to be in a constant state of feud. The utilisation of the current runways is very poor.

geh065
30th Jul 2013, 23:48
Current runway utilisation is almost at maximum possible as per a study performed by NATS of the UK. The high mix of widebodied aircraft (wake turbulence), long times to vacate by HKIA pilots, terrain, and lack of a north traffic pattern mean that utilisation can never be as much as LHR, although on certain days of the year total movements is not far off the LHR figures.

Lowkoon
31st Jul 2013, 12:23
ByAirMail, A checkerboard might work nicely... But then again we aren't so great at visual segments anymore... It would certainly add to the overwhelming excitement of riding the Nong Ping 360!

I would imagine a wind up alert for the orientation of the third runway as depicted above.

Sand Man
31st Jul 2013, 21:22
I don't really see the point of a third RWY, especially on 07. Without using the airspace to the north we are still restricted by the spacing requirements on base therefore the number of aircraft that can land with a third RWY will not be much more than it is now.

Will fly for Cash
1st Aug 2013, 04:07
You only get paid when the wheels turn. I'm always happy to see a long lineup holding short. I'm consistently surprised by the number of folks here who don't feel the same.

nitpicker330
1st Aug 2013, 08:10
So how do you keep the wheels turning in flight??? :E

lepsap
1st Aug 2013, 12:20
It must be a parallel runway. To make this plan viable, Tai Mo Shan has to be chopped by couples of hundred feet.....oh yes, Castle Peak as well. Furthermore, they will paint Tai Mo Shan like a checker board and finally rename it as Checker Mountain.

Will fly for Cash
2nd Aug 2013, 05:16
So how do you keep the wheels turning in flight??? http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/evil.gif

Easy - I fly with the gear down! Lower barber pole = longer sector = more credit for me! Yahoooooooo!