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jcjeant
30th Jun 2013, 19:00
Hi,

Helicopter makes emergency landing in New York's Hudson River with five on board | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2351939/Helicopter-makes-emergency-landing-New-Yorks-Hudson-River-board.html)
Seems that the Hudson River is becoming a new NY airport :ok:

birrddog
30th Jun 2013, 22:07
And before anyone asks, no, it was not me! :p

From the photo's I saw at least the floats work.

HLCPTR
30th Jun 2013, 22:12
If it turns out to be an engine failure (as the available information seems to imply), it was a damn good autorotation to the water.

Good job!

:D

krypton_john
1st Jul 2013, 00:20
Great job, and kudos to whoever towed it in without causing any additional damage or tipping it over!

SASless
1st Jul 2013, 00:24
Helicopter makes emergency landing in Hudson River, 4 passengers and pilot pulled to safety - NYPOST.com (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/helicopter_makes_emergency_landing_9CYkwPIhJYI8d1hP6I043O)



They make good boats those Jet Rangers.

WASALOADIE
1st Jul 2013, 03:47
Well done!

JTobias
1st Jul 2013, 04:38
Birddog,

I'm pleased to hear it !!!

Joel :ok:

DirtDiver
1st Jul 2013, 08:10
"The pilot did a terrific job, considering he lost his engine power, and landed his ship safely,” FDNY Deputy Chief Thomas McKavanagh said at scene"
Haha so if a helicopter lands on water it is called a ship :}

Is it normal they lift the helicopter like this?
http://www.nypost.com/r/nypost/2013/06/30/news/web_photos/063013Helicopter-gnm03154539--525x350.jpg

What will happen with the helicopter? (Big overhaul and then back to operations?)

I know here in Holland when a SAR (J-SAR) helicopter got ditched it was taken in parts and build up again as demo model.
It was not able to fly anymore because of all the salt water which corrode the airframe.

Furia
1st Jul 2013, 09:25
Great job making that auto to the water!!!.

Here you can see the how the US training method with a lot of full down autos to the ground is really paying off.
I hold both FAA and JAA licenses and I still feel the full down autorotation training including night autos I got in the US was invaluable for my pilot career.


Outstanding landing!!! Congratulations to the pilot!!

Anthony Supplebottom
1st Jul 2013, 09:38
Is it normal they lift the helicopter like this?

Yes.

The driver seems to have done such a good job of getting the heli down and for once all the floats seem to have inflated properly (and remained inflated) and the recovery boat also managed to avoid capsizing the aircraft that, just conceivably, it could just be an engine change and she's fit to fly! Sort of.

DirtDiver
1st Jul 2013, 10:12
yep depending off course which limits were exceeded from the engine, right?

Encyclo
1st Jul 2013, 11:00
Looking at the video of the aircraft being towed and how the rotor was rocking and banging on the mast, I would have a close look at the mast too.

Good job by the pilot; an auto on floats with a Long Ranger is really not easy :ok:

Anthony Supplebottom
1st Jul 2013, 11:34
yep depending off course which limits were exceeded from the engine, right?

Yes exactly, hence my "sort of" comment.

The aircraft will have to be thoroughly examined of course but as mentioned its a possibility that it can be fixed relatively easily. There is no obvious salt water damage and unless various engine, dynamic component and airframe tolerances have been exceeded, it should be able to get back in the air without too much fuss.

Its encouraging to see an emergency which works out like this. I wish this were the case more often.

http://www.nypost.com/r/nypost/2013/06/30/news/web_photos/HelicopterintoHudson151748--525x350.jpg

http://blu.stb.s-msn.com/i/BD/DE7B6E4666D69EA7A175265F947C_h316_w628_m5_cKPkdVJfP.jpg

Gemini Twin
1st Jul 2013, 18:00
Is it normal they lift the helicopter like this?


Yes every time it takes off!:bored:

topendtorque
1st Jul 2013, 20:47
Very pleasing to see the positive results of good basic training. well done.

Aesir
1st Jul 2013, 20:49
I´m not a mechanic but normally, I would think, a 206 is lifted by the mast nut. The way these straps are wrapped around the spindles could implict undue stress.

http://i227.photobucket.com/albums/dd265/skered53/umbrella%20gear/jesusnut_bell222.jpg

DirtDiver
1st Jul 2013, 21:07
@Gemini Twin: No different forces on the MGB and rotorblade suspension.

@topendtorque: yes, agree en specially because it was also a young pilot 23! Good job for him!

SASless
2nd Jul 2013, 12:29
ATC Radio Recording.......time the duration from the first Mayday call to the report the aircraft is on the water upright with floats inflated. You have to be prepared and ready.....as things happen fast sometimes.


https://soundcloud.com/nydailynews/air-traffic-audio-of?utm_source=soundcloud&utm_campaign=share&utm_medium=facebook

DirtDiver
2nd Jul 2013, 12:57
Wow that went fast still goose bumps off hearing the mayday mayday call.

A call you hope you dont have to make.

Anthony Supplebottom
2nd Jul 2013, 13:00
Thank you for the RT recording SAS.

I think however that one of the heli drivers may need to go on an aircraft recognition course because at around 6 mins someone refers to the downed aircraft as a Bell 47 - then later on as a Bell 407!

I am sure however that LGA knew that NY5 was a 206L. ;)

SASless
2nd Jul 2013, 13:12
In a Land Far Away in another Life.....I was congratulated on making three of the best Mayday calls heard by my Mates in that place.

I had no recall of making even one!

Granted at the time I was just a bit pre-occupied and did not have the foresight to make any sort of Journal entry.

The combination of Machine guns, Howitzer Shells with Fuses, a windscreen totally green with Trees, ADI showing "Tilt", and a cockpit full of smoke, fumes, and a bit of flame has a way of distracting you it would seem. The simultaneous engine failure and loss of one hydraulics system also works to focus one's thoughts.

Silly as it sounds when discussing such things over Tea.....practice of such RT phraseology proves helpful when you do one for real.....as you generally do in moments of real stress what you have done in training.

FlyGooseFly!
2nd Jul 2013, 13:34
Sasless - do drop me a line when your memoires come out!

Glad you got away with it! Once had an interesting cuppa with a guy who went over the edge of flight deck rather too slowly and didn't eject quick enough!

SASless
2nd Jul 2013, 13:54
Getting run over by an Aircraft Carrier doing 25-30 knots doesn't sound like a lot of fun.....

DirtDiver
2nd Jul 2013, 14:17
Sounds like you need to swim as a athlete!

SAS never thought of writing you memories down in a ebook? :)
I will pre order one ;)

MikeNYC
3rd Jul 2013, 16:52
ATC Radio Recording.......time the duration from the first Mayday call to the report the aircraft is on the water upright with floats inflated. You have to be prepared and ready.....as things happen fast sometimes.

I edited that recording together for LiveATC from their archives, and the NY Daily News lifted it from their site and put it on SoundCloud. It's not realtime and it's off of several frequencies used in the area...silence and non-relevant communications have been removed. It did happen quite quickly though!

ReefPilot
4th Jul 2013, 03:23
Any more word on the cause of the engine failure, if indeed it was and engine failure?

RP

Vertical Freedom
4th Jul 2013, 08:51
Congratulations Mate welcome to the - 'Succesful Autorative Landing Following Engine Failure Club' :ok: :D :cool:

Thomas coupling
4th Jul 2013, 08:55
Fly Goose: Not "Goose" McClennan by any chance????? Prowler was it or similar?

1helicopterppl
6th Jul 2013, 17:03
SASless,

not wishing to be picky or a smart arse....it's a Long Ranger not a Jet Ranger....

SASless
6th Jul 2013, 17:55
Whatever! It is still an under designed, under powered, Bell built piece of crap!

There is not a nickel's worth of difference in all the Jet Ranger series until you get to the 407....and that is still just another JetRanger by another name.

Jet Ranger, Jet Long Ranger, Jet Twin Ranger.....put them into a bag and shake them up....and you still have a Jet Ranger.

For what they are.....they are a good helicopter....but you have to remember....LTE was a result of Bell Design Excellence!

HeliStudent
9th Jul 2013, 18:03
Mike Campbell back in the air -

Helicopter pilot who landed on Hudson River flies again | 7online.com (http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/new_york&id=9165815)

nomorehelosforme
9th Jul 2013, 20:59
How many members in that exclusive club? Fair play to all that are!

nomorehelosforme
9th Jul 2013, 21:17
CNN reporting that Mike is eye candy aswell! Said by a male reporter, future film star in the making?(only jealous)

nigelh
10th Jul 2013, 21:58
Sas ... To be fair I sometimes fly L4 Jet Banger and 7 up plus luggage it still has plenty of power and plenty of t/r authority . And the best part is it doesn't have a French engine. !!!!!

GoodGrief
10th Jul 2013, 22:15
To be fair I sometimes fly L4 Jet Banger and 7 up plus luggage it still has plenty of power and plenty of t/r authority

But you don't get far...:}

nigelh
10th Jul 2013, 23:56
Probably more than I would in my 109 !!

DirtDiver
3rd Aug 2013, 08:06
Bristow Academy will present an award to Michael Campbell, the helicopter pilot who safely landed his helicopter on June 30 in the Hudson River. The award presentation will occur on Friday, August 9, 2013, at 9:30 a.m. at the Bristow Academy Flight Operations outdoor pavilion at 1 Bristow Way, Titusville, FL, 32780. Media are welcome to attend; please confirm with Bristow Academy at +1 (321) 385 2919.

FH1100 Pilot
4th Aug 2013, 00:11
He wears his seatbelt/shoulder harness extremely WRONG. He ought to know better. Lucky the impact wasn't greater on that engine failure.

RVDT
4th Aug 2013, 04:35
Excuse my ignorance but......

The guy is a trained and licensed Commercial Pilot.

Isn't this what is supposed to happen when the engine stops?



FH - I see what you mean about the harness.

4th Aug 2013, 04:41
It's not like he had to make a choice of fields or anything tricky - he just had to avoid landing on or getting run down by a boat.