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DX Wombat
18th May 2013, 18:02
Yes, it's that time again, it's the Eurovision Song Contest 2013. BBC1 20:00hrs to 23:15hrs.

Lon More
18th May 2013, 18:05
Tv will be turned to the wall for the duration

Capetonian
18th May 2013, 18:38
If I had to watch TV, I'd rather watch the test pattern, the shopping channel, the weather channel, or even the God channel!

Fortunately, I'm cooking Pollo Cacciatore (Mio Stilo) and will be enjoying it with friends and sensible quantities of a rather fine Valpolicella. Our boy is away for the weekend and he won't eat mushrooms or capers, both of which are important ingredients in that dish the way I cook it, so we can indulge!

2dPilot
18th May 2013, 18:58
Midwives, please note 12/02/2014

toffeez
18th May 2013, 19:09
.. from my euroland perspective the locals take this rather seriously. TRUE ! TRUE !

They speak in hushed & pregnant tones waiting to discover who voted for Cyprus.

The UK thinks this is a comedy show. How different we are from the "Continent".

Compare their junk with this true class, if you may:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPG4lbUOgtc

DX Wombat
18th May 2013, 19:25
Midwives, please note 12/02/2014 2dP, we used to have several such anniversaries noted - Christmas, New Year, Diwali, Ramadan, Easter etc. This year that date would be included following the promotion of the local footy team. ;)

Capetonian
18th May 2013, 19:31
Sandy Denny, thanks for that memory, I remember her from Fairport Convention. How tragic that someone so talented and beautiful should have died so young.

barry lloyd
18th May 2013, 19:31
Midwives, please note 12/02/2014

I thought those who celebrated this most were not equipped to give birth - or are you thinking of the heterosexual couples who'll be so bored they'll have an early night? ;)

Rwy in Sight
18th May 2013, 19:35
Due to the very very inefficient ATC in my local airport (apologies for the aviation content) I just missed the Finish song on the semi final last Thursday. My mates waiting at our weekly meeting just pointed out how good the song was and worth a guy's attention just for the final scene.

So tonight I had to see it. And great song it was! Spain was good too.

Rwy in Sight

pvmw
18th May 2013, 19:45
Toffeez, you are a man of impeccable taste. One of the great female singers , and my favourite song of hers. I prefer this version tho', 'cos it includes Richard Thompson's guitar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2xODjbfYw8

toffeez
18th May 2013, 20:06
I left my favourite cd in the car, but here are some more goodies while the rabid idiots are still on the tv.

Any more suggestions to fill the next two hours?

Sandy Denny, The Sea - YouTube
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Lon More
18th May 2013, 20:10
She also played with the Strawbs.
Who knows ..... Is still one of my favourite tracks

Fox3WheresMyBanana
18th May 2013, 20:34
My favourite Sandy Denny song

The Quiet Joys of Brotherhood - Sandy Denny - YouTube

More talent than all the Eurovisions, ever, in just one of her songs...

Fox3WheresMyBanana
18th May 2013, 20:38
...and since there's time

A Sailor's Life - Fairport Convention - YouTube

....

Led Zeppelin The Battle of Evermore - YouTube

you may know the significance of this...

toffeez
18th May 2013, 20:45
Anyone want to post some more Fairport etc?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLwkITJaFEw

Fox3WheresMyBanana
18th May 2013, 20:59
Fairport Convention - Meet on the ledge ( Sandy Denny ) - YouTube

toffeez
18th May 2013, 21:20
SANDY DENNY - I'm a dreamer - YouTube

toffeez
18th May 2013, 21:25
Has the Eurovision finished?

Windy Militant
18th May 2013, 21:28
I was going to suggest this( If you can accessthe BBC I player) if you had to put up with European excesses but it's only an hour and a half
BBC iPlayer - Pappano's Essential Ring Cycle (http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01sgbtl/Pappanos_Essential_Ring_Cycle/)

Sailor Vee
18th May 2013, 21:34
Has eurovision finished?

You would think so! For those hi-jacking the thread, you know where the 'off' button is! How the hell this becomes a 'luvfest' for Sandy Denny is known only to those with a tad of tunnel vision. I thought there was a thread for favourite music.

Fox3WheresMyBanana
18th May 2013, 21:41
Eurovision was finished after 1974, and it doesn't make it across the Pond (yay!).

I'm quite a fan of Pollo Cacciatore too, but can't find any good videos. I'll think I'll cook it tomorrow.

Milo Minderbinder
18th May 2013, 22:12
the scoring accurately represents Europe's interest in Britain. They don't want us as part of their world.
Sod them. Time to leave Europe.

toffeez
18th May 2013, 22:23
AT&T Archives: Telstar! - YouTube

Lukeafb1
18th May 2013, 22:42
Once again, a complete farce.

The UK pays a huge amount to Eurovision to help stage this debacle. We should leave and watch it collapse through lack of funds.

Having said that did we really think that Englebert Huffnpuff or Bonny Tyler were serious contenders? :mad: :ugh:

hellsbrink
19th May 2013, 05:41
Having said that did we really think that Englebert Huffnpuff or Bonny Tyler were serious contenders?

Ever thought that the idea was to NOT be a "serious contender", but to be a participant who has no chance of winning and therefore no chance of having to spend an absolute fortune hosting the event at any point in the future?

david1300
19th May 2013, 13:09
Stop whining you Poms. You deserve having to watch every Eurovision after the tragedy that was Bucks Fizz that you foisted on us.:}

Matari
19th May 2013, 14:35
Good gawd, give me a good, old-fashioned tractor pull any day over this:

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Tankertrashnav
19th May 2013, 16:59
I see that Graham Norton has carried on the Wogan practice of saying "we/us/our" when referring to the British entry. At least Wogan had dual citizenship (if only so that he could be called "Sir Terry"!) but as far as I know Norton isn't "one of us".

(A UK citizen I mean ;))

Incidentally JB is traditionally the home of shocking admissions on PPRune, so here's one:

Until about 10 minutes ago I'd never heard of Sandy Denny :eek:

hellsbrink
19th May 2013, 17:24
Stop whining you Poms. You deserve having to watch every Eurovision after the tragedy that was Bucks Fizz that you foisted on us.

You sent us Neighbours and Home and Away. You got off lightly.

500N
19th May 2013, 17:34
hellsbrink

"You sent us Neighbours and Home and Away. You got off lightly."

Are you saying you don't like Nubile young ladies ?:O

Come one, Kylie "Gold Hot Pants" came out of Neighbours :O

hellsbrink
19th May 2013, 17:46
Does the fact that there may be cute young ladies change the matter of these two shows being one of the best cures for insomnia ever known OR something that makes normal, sane, people want to slash their wrists?

There's plenty porn out there if you want to ogle at nubile young ladies, you don't have to torture yourself by watching the sort of brain-numbing drivel called Neighbours.





And Kylie's always been too skinny, which is why she's always so popular at the gay clubs because the blokes there like anything with no t*ts and a tight a*se. I ain't like these people.

500N
19th May 2013, 17:49
Hells

I can't think of anytime in my life I have had to subject myself
to the drivel of Neighbours or the other one.

I'd turn off the TV before that :O

Lon More
19th May 2013, 17:54
..... No t*ts .....
foot in mouth again there, Hellsbrink (http://www.marieclaire.co.uk/news/celebrity/226413/kylie-minogue-cancer-misdiagnosis.html)

500N
19th May 2013, 17:59
Lon More

I think he works on the Slasher scale, which means that Kylie
doesn't even rate :O

probes
19th May 2013, 18:54
hm. I thought the regular thing is not to watch the things one does not like? There are things much worse than Eurovision, so why get extra ironic about it? Plenty of people seem to enjoy it enough to fund it (even though the bulk comes from youknowwho)? And each year there's a couple of quite good songs and some interesting performers. Plus quite an experience for them, it being live singing and all.
If you ask me, it's pointlessly pompous and too expensive, but I'm clearly in minority.
But I loved this year's presenter Petra and the kinda-twisted humour of the Swedes.
the scoring accurately represents Europe's interest in Britain. They don't want us as part of their world.

Grow up, will you? :E It's not a membership vote.


P.S I really liked the contratenor (his singing, that is). Too bad there were so many wriggling distractors, he was quite a character himself.

And the Danish song was quite good. Tyler has had better ones (=songs).

500N
19th May 2013, 18:57
Am I correct in saying from the comments in the posts above that the UK
funds a lot of the Eurovision Song contest ?

If so, why ?

probes
19th May 2013, 18:59
The United Kingdom is one of the most successful countries to compete in the Eurovision Song Contest (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurovision_Song_Contest). They first participated in the second contest in 1957 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurovision_Song_Contest_1957). The BBC (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BBC) had wanted to take part in the first contest in 1956 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurovision_Song_Contest_1956), but had submitted their entry to the European Broadcasting Union (EBU) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_Broadcasting_Union) after the deadline had passed. The UK has entered every year since 1959 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eurovision_Song_Contest_1959), and has won the contest a total of five times. Along with Sweden (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sweden_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest), the UK is one of only two countries with Eurovision victories in four different decades.
Wikipedia, United Kingdom in the Eurovision Song Contest - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_in_the_Eurovision_Song_Contest)

funfly
19th May 2013, 21:41
I miss Eurotrash :rolleyes:


http://www.funfly.co.uk/images/truppence.png

500N
19th May 2013, 21:50
We (as in Australia) have a really good person presenting it
for TV here in Julia Zemiro.

Apart from being born in France and now living in Aus,
she is intelligent, has a very good grasp of music, is funny /
witty and doesn't take herself too seriously. Oh, and fairly
pleasant on the eye as well.

However, as much as I like her, it still doesn't make me
watch it because you don't see that much of her :*

bluecode
19th May 2013, 22:12
I see that Graham Norton has carried on the Wogan practice of saying "we/us/our" when referring to the British entry. At least Wogan had dual citizenship (if only so that he could be called "Sir Terry"!) but as far as I know Norton isn't "one of us".

(A UK citizen I mean http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/wink2.gif)
Why you picking on our (not your) Graham, tankertrashnav? He's presenting the show for the BBC not RTE so he probably feels he must take sides. Like many an Irishman living in his adopted country he might feel some affection for the British people. For sure at least one of them!:ok:

Besides in the series: 'Who do you think you are?' It turns out he is very much one of you. :p

I'm more outraged that Ireland only got one point from the UK while we gave Bonnie seven. Did we do something to upset you or what? This is despite that fact that our man is in fact one of you lot, coming as he does from that the UK part of the island. Yes he's a real Brit unlike Graham and you didn't even vote for him!

Seriously if our two countries are to continue with this Eurovision farce we should have a secret pact to give each other 12 points. Everyone else seems to be at it.

500N
19th May 2013, 22:15
bluecode

"Seriously if our two countries are to continue with this Eurovision farce we should have a secret pact to give each other 12 points. Everyone else seems to be at it."

How about the whole farce be turfed and everyone told to score the song/routine on it's merits, not where they come from ?

Get it back to what it is called, a SONG contest.

bluecode
19th May 2013, 22:34
Like that will ever happen, 500N. Dream on. But to be fair, probably the best song won. On the other hand if it was sung by either the UK or Ireland it certainly wouldn't win.

500N
19th May 2013, 22:45
Yes, I know.

As long as the best song won, that's good. The rest don't matter.

Can't say I have taken much notice in the past so can't say
whether the best song has won over the last few years or not.

hellsbrink
20th May 2013, 03:57
I think he works on the Slasher scale, which means that Kylie
doesn't even rate

Precisely, and that joke had been running for a long time before Kylie had her breast cancer which is something that isn't to be joked about.

So, Lon, you best extricate your foot before you bite any more toes off.......

500N
20th May 2013, 04:05
Well, if you rate Kylie against the - what girl band have we - the Spice Girls,
Kylie comes out on top.

And I see in the UK papers things about ? "Corrie" ? girls or something
to do with a TV show in the UK ?

Hell, at least Kylie has some personality and charisma and can
sing and dance as well as anyone.

hellsbrink
20th May 2013, 05:10
A pile of steaming pig turd comes out on top of the Spice Dogs, and as far as the "Cult of Celebrity" goes, I tend to ignore every aspect of it for I have absolutely no interest in whether some "star" is wearing diamond encrusted knickers or not.

And Kylie was always a skinny buggah, no matter what "praises" she gets and I don't do stick insects, and the matter of how that "Cult of Celebrity" lead to Stuck Aching Watermelon thrusting a singing "voice" that sounded like a mouse sliding down a razor blade using it's balls as brakes upon us, along with all the other "stars" of Neighbores who jumped on the "Look how stupid people are in the UK, they'll pay good money for our wailing because they watch us on TV" bandwagon, means that she will forever be tainted for being part, if not the founder, of the nonsense we now have to suffer where barely average actors/actresses believe they are somehow capable of superstardom because they howled on a "song" that a 3 year old would think twice about writing before flashing their bits just to make sure they get their photo in the papers.

500N
20th May 2013, 05:14
hellsbrink

:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

That has to be one of the best and funniest posts I have seen on here.

I had to stop eating my lunch I was laughing so much.

:O :ok:

PM sent to you.

hellsbrink
20th May 2013, 10:49
<post deleted due to deletion of Lon More's post to which this one referred>

DX Wombat
20th May 2013, 11:23
Hellsbrink, I'm so glad I didn't have a mouthful of coffee when I read your post. :D :D :D :D :D
I cannot stand the screeching, bellowing, wailing, off-key caterwauling so fondly regarded by many as singing. There is so much more to singing than simply opening your mouth and making a noise which could be put to effective use as a foghorn or intruder deterrent.
I'm a little disappointed that only the anti Eurovision brigade seem to have posted but never mind. I'm not particularly fond of the programme but it does provide an annual change from much of the boring rubbish usually available on tv at weekends. It is one evening when we all get to see a little of the countries of origin of the participants. I know it is a collection of selected tiny snippets but all the same I find that part quite enjoyable.

vulcanised
20th May 2013, 11:43
Since you mentioned Neighbours.........http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/pukey.gif

When I was running a business that had lots of kids as customers quite a number of them thought it was a sort of documentary.

pigboat
20th May 2013, 17:52
Waterloo, Mark Steyn's song of the week. :p

Waterloo: Steyn's Song of the Week :: SteynOnline (http://www.steynonline.com/5577/waterloo)

toffeez
20th May 2013, 19:19
Thanks for Sat night's show.

We should petition No 10 for a referendum on leaving the Eurovision song contest.

toffeez
20th May 2013, 19:36
Tankertrashnav: at your age !!! ?

Sign of a mis-spent youth, evidently.
.

G&T ice n slice
20th May 2013, 20:41
AND ... I bet he's not heard of L.Cohen

(or is that "Sincerely, L.Cohen" )

ORAC
21st May 2013, 14:22
Speaking of Sandy Denny and folk music....

Scotlandís 2013 Eurovision triumph (http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/coffeehouse/2013/05/scotlands-eurovision-triumph-2013/)

Lukeafb1
21st May 2013, 20:16
For 500N's benefit and any others not in the know.

The BBC does in fact pay some 25% to 30% of the entire cost of staging this fraud and have done for many, many years. I believe Germany and France also pay a large proportion of the entire costs. How else can the likes of Azerbaijan afford to stage it? I believe its written into the Eurovision Charter! My figures might be very slightly wrong, but it is true.

500N
21st May 2013, 20:20
Luke

Thanks.

I did a bit of research and I think you are correct.
4 or 5 bigger countries pay the majority of it.

Thanks again :ok:

Nervous SLF
21st May 2013, 22:17
I see Russia is very upset with Azerbaijan because of a song :)

BBC News - Russia: Azerbaijan's Eurovision snub 'outrageous' (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-22609523)

Russia's foreign minister has called Azerbaijan's failure to award any points to Russia's entry in the Eurovision song contest "outrageous".
Sergei Lavrov said the points had been "stolen" from Russia's Dina Garipova and "this outrageous action will not remain without a response".

:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Tankertrashnav
21st May 2013, 22:22
Until about 10 minutes ago I'd never heard of Sandy Denny

Tankertrashnav: at your age !!! ?

Sign of a mis-spent youth, evidently

It's true, I'm afraid. Once I discovered classical music in my twenties I basically ignored just about everything else for about 40 years. I admit this was a mistake as there is undoubtedly some good stuff in the non-classical world, but if you spend your time listening to Radio 3 (or Radio 4 when Radio 3 inflicts jazz or "world music" on us) you are apt to be pretty ignorant about anything non-classical.

I do sometimes watch "Never Mind the Buzzcocks" and they may as well be asking questions on quantum theory for all the hope I have of getting any right!

By the way - this L.Cohen - do tell ;)

vulcanised
22nd May 2013, 11:56
In a moment of utter boredom I watched a few minutes on iPlayer.

The sound was muted but I still managed to get annoyed by the camera techniques which seem to be the 'in thing' for a lot of productions nowadays.

When I was in the business, it was totally wrong to spend less than two seconds on a shot before cutting away, likewise, never 'hosepipe' with the zoom. Now both of those are constantly employed throughout http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/pukey.gif