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freightdog188
16th May 2013, 13:20
http://tinyurl.com/bhzdbdc

here's the tl;dr:

F/O flying VOR approach in IMC
continues below the 465ft MSL (454ft AGL) minimum
at 150ft RA the Captain takes over controls and CONTINUES TO DESCEND
at 20ft RA they finally try to go around.
seconds later they're in the drink

just in case someone needed a reminder why they should never put the family on one of these carriers

Frogman1484
16th May 2013, 15:44
Im sure they will still blame wind shear!!

quadspeed
16th May 2013, 18:20
Thank god we're still paying top dollar for experienced, qualified and competent flight crew.

cxorcist
16th May 2013, 19:36
... And paying them such a pathetic package that a good portion will leave once they have any type of useful experience in the right seat. Good for CX present and future!!!

TheBigD
16th May 2013, 20:37
Actually, just read the FO's quals. 1200 hr TT, 923 on type. Looking at the numbers, I would say the lad was a P2Fer.

SIUYA
16th May 2013, 21:47
Looking at the PICs information in S.15.1, something doesn't seem quite right:

Flying experience

Last 90 days : 279 hours 8 minutes
Last 60 days : 20 hours 51 minutes

258 hours and 17 minutes in the 30-day period from day 90 to day 60??

Or am I reading that wrong? :confused:

Subwoofer
17th May 2013, 04:04
Looks like you're reading that right, SIUYA, but I suspect it's a typo. There's no line in there for "Last 30 Days," or "Last 7 days," so I suspect it should read one of those instead.

freightdog188
17th May 2013, 09:44
the interesting part - PR wise is:
this one will be remembered as the Lion Air Windshear accident, because that's what the Captain very publicly claimed and that's what was published in the media the day after.

No Journalist gives a flying f*ck about it anymore now, it won't see any publicity except maybe a 2 liner on page 7 or so.