fun with Norwegian in ALF and TOS

[Flathadder]

I keep hearing about a couple of NAS incidents in Alta:
- a rollercoaster go-around after attempting a base turn inside Komsa (!)
and Tromsø:
- landing with 300kg fuel total

Can anybody enlighten us as to what really happened?

[Hotel Charlie]

There is supposedly a report filed about the outragously "low fuel" incident at TOS so guess we'll see when the NCAA has released it. When it comes to the ALF circling the tower guy according to rumours (I meen since we are a rumours network :O ) threw himself on the floor in the tower because he thought that wise! :eek: :eek:

[toffy]

Concidering their northen Norway check out is a ride in the jump seat, no surprise things like this happen.

I am looking forward to reading the ALF report. Because it was reported, right?

[Flathadder]

I am really overwhelmed by the response here. When pilots of other airlines have a hiccup or forgot to brush their teeth that morning, we get multiple pages for weeks on end of in depth analysis and knee jerk blame assignments. But here... virtually nothing.
Along with the thread about NAS being literally seconds away from falling out of the sky in Helsinki, a thread that died almost as fast as you can say "oops", you have to wonder: Does NAS have the same deal as Hemirats here?

See evil, hear evil, but never, ever say evil.

[idiotsrus]

Dear ms. Flathead.

It does not matter if You call Yourself Nyhellesynd or Flatthadder. Your postings and intensions are clear to most people with an iq of more than 30.

What U said in the first post, a rumor.
Who would make up such a rumor in the first place? Take a pick.
Thats the reason why peple dont respond to Your idiot post.

Why not chill and get a life?
There is nothing U can do to make NAX go away.

By the way. I'm still waiting for Your mothers address so the membership cards can be mailed off to You two.

Sincerely yours,
Another one.

[LN-KUK]

A rumour? Really, why is it so that many of my friends who work in DY can confirm these events then?...........

[Flathadder]

You call Yourself Nyhellesynd ??

I'm still waiting for Your mothers address so the membership cards can be mailed off to You two. ???

There is nothing U can do to make NAX go away. Well, if you say so. Not that I would need to, if they continue shooting approaches like this.

[Hank the F/C]

Mr Adder, what is your agenda? You've asked the question and clearly the guys with the answer have chosen to honor their confidentiality agreement with their employer by not posting what they know. Respect that and wait for the the official report if these mistakes you are referring to warrant one...

[Hotel Charlie]

Well Hank the F/C, a roumers network won't really be the same now will it? :ok:
....and as we say in Norway: "no smoke without fire" ... :E

[Luftfart1]

Riktignok et par år gammelt, men dette burde stoppe kjeften på alle SAS ansatte som er her inne og slenger dritt om alle andre?:

"I en række tilfælde i perioden 2006 til 2009 har SAS ikke fulgt procedurerne. Det medførte, at SAS i mere end 11.000 tilfælde er lettet med fly, som ikke var vedligeholdt efter reglerne".
Undersøger SAS-sikkerhed - Transport | www.business.dk (http://www.business.dk/transport/undersoeger-sas-sikkerhed)

:D:D:D:D:D:D

[Hotel Charlie]

Selvfølgelig setter dette DY sakene i et helt annet lys i og med denne informasjonen! Tusen takk for info Luftfart1, vi er veldig takknemlige .... :rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Luftfart1]

Hehe:-) Poenget mitt var å stoppe alle disse både SAS og NAS ansatte, mest SAS, som alltid skal slenge dritt om hverandre. Det finnes feil og mangler i begge selskapene. Registrerer at de i SAS tror at det bare er de som kan drive flyselskap, hahahahahahaha, og at NAs tror de er driver i LCC markedet, hahahaha. Begge tar selsvsgat feil.
Kanskje på tide å begynne å oppføre seg som voksne?

NB: Nei, jeg jobber ikke for noen av de nevnte selskapene.

[Nick Figaretto]

SAS tror at det bare er de som kan drive flyselskap, hahahahahahahaNAs tror de er driver i LCC markedet, hahahaha.

Hva slags latter er dette? Litt sånn Harald Eia type bitene-ironisk latter? Eller mer kneggende, jovial?

Måtte bare spørre. Har alltid sansen for god retorikk.

[Hotel Charlie]

Hva slags latter er dette? Litt sånn Harald Eia type bitene-ironisk latter? Eller mer kneggende, jovial?

NF, jeg synes det høres mer ut som Kjos fjas ..... :}

[LNIDA]

Well wide of the mark on that one, all pilots unless they have previous Northern Norway experience under go a comprehensive training program if they are to fly North of 64 degree, this includes a 3 day ground school course covering performance on contaminated runways amongst other thing and 2 days in the sim where they will visit these airfields in both normal and non-normal situations i.e. EFATO, pilots are required to pass this exercise before being authorised to operate above 64, they will in addition visit many of the airfield on the jump seat BEFORE undertaking this course.

[Tally-ho1]

There are still some "on-going" rumours about this DY, with only 300 kg's of remaining fuel in tanks, after parking in TOS. Story say that the fuel/ramp personnel discovered it when refueling, but I don't know...
Was it a spanish crew, on a LPA-flight?

[Hotel Charlie]

Was it a spanish crew

Donno if they were based in Spain but rumor has it that they were British :ooh:

[Dovregubben]

The rumour about the remaining 300 kg fuel is false.

One fuelling staff worker in TOS reported this and the matter was taken to Luftfartstilsynet which asked NAS for a report.

The investigation proved to Luftfartstilsynet that the claim was false.

It is not known what the consequences this have brought for the fuelling guy.

[joerkaaff]

It is not known what the consequences this have brought for the fuelling guy.

Unless you work in a third world organization run my Kim Jung Un and still fly around with starfighters, there should be no consequences for reporting.

Perhaps somebody made a mistake; not unlikely given our human condition. But fear of making mistakes should never get in the way of a healthy reporting system. Unless you're insinuating something else?

[mushroom69]

Unless something is TOTALLY different, how the hell would a fuel guy have an inkling of how much fuel was remaining?

I have not had a fuellie in the cockpit (where the gauges are) in 25 years. Maybe you guys have fuel gauges in the outside fuel panel?

This kind of story would be EASILY checked by checking the departure fuel and the flight time etc...as we all know.

Sounds like duck, looks like a duck, smells like a duck....it just might be a ...........

As far as SAS people throwing stones, you should be the last company´s employees to throw stones at any other company.

[Hotel Charlie]

I have not had a fuellie in the cockpit (where the gauges are) in 25 years. Maybe you guys have fuel gauges in the outside fuel panel?

This kind of story would be EASILY checked by checking the departure fuel and the flight time etc...as we all know.

Sounds like duck, looks like a duck, smells like a duck....it just might be a ...........

.....uhh...are you a pilot?? You're definitely not a 737 driver!! Maybe you're just a TROLL :ok:

[FerrypilotDK]

So I gather that the 737 does have fuel gauges at the outside fuel panel...

No wouldn't touch the stuff......fly people with money! :D

[Hotel Charlie]

FerrypilotDK
Nope!
So I gather that the 737 does have fuel gauges at the outside fuel panel...

No wouldn't touch the stuff......fly people with money!


.....good for you! Most likely a better deal these days :ok:

[Diper]

"The rumour about the remaining 300 kg fuel is false.

One fuelling staff worker in TOS reported this and the matter was taken to Luftfartstilsynet which asked NAS for a report."

Javel?
80% av alle flyene som lander på TOS er 737. De som fyller drivstoff i Tromsø kjenner flytypen veldig godt. Noe særlig under 2 tonn med fuel etter landing tror jeg sjelden de ser. Denne fuelgubben som har fylt dette flyet har altså tatt VELDIG feil.
300kg, det er 150 kg i hver tank! Det er ekstremt lite. Tommelfingerregel så brenner en 737 2 tonn i timen.

Denne fuelgubben har altså ikke snakket med noen andre før han rapporterte dette videre???? Ingen andre har sett at fuelmålerene stod på 300kg?

Men men, mannen tok feil. Det var tydeligvis mer enn 300 kg i tankene!

Case closed.