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15th May 2013, 12:04
Scaffolding Covers Washington Monument for repairs. The 5.8 earthquake in Virginia a couple of years ago damaged the 555 ft (169 m) all-stone monument - no metal reinforcing. Here's a 1-3/4 minute video. Ignore the starting advert.

Scaffolding covers Washington Monument for repairs - The Washington Post (http://tinyurl.com/ac93f77)

15th May 2013, 12:34
That is not the reason for the scaffolding. It's there because the Washington Monument is going through a face lift. After that's completed Barack Obama's likeness will adorn the top of the Monument and it will be renamed the Obama Monument.

I mean, what the hell did George Washington ever do for us? Compared to what Obama has done, nothing.

And although O'Bummer will not supplant George on Mt. Rushmore, he will take his place amongst all our great presidents. See?.....


Flap 5
15th May 2013, 12:37
What's Lewis Hamilton doing on the end there?

tony draper
15th May 2013, 12:41
The stone built tower and Spire of Lincoln Cathedral was 535 feet tall so you just beat us, however it was built in 1311 and didn't fall down until 1540.

15th May 2013, 13:13
The Monument had a face-lift maybe ten-15 years ago, at which time it was also covered with scaffolds and a cloth sheath. As with all things Washington, there were complaints when that scaffold/sheath was removed. IIRC, the sheath was illuminated some nights.

There is a little aluminum pyramid (21cm, 9 inches) at the top of the Monument. In 1884, when completed, aluminum was VERY expensive. (Pardon 'Murican spelling)

Tune out the right-wing politics, surely you can do better.

15th May 2013, 14:22

edited, with apologies. My attempt at a jest was badly done. :uhoh:

tony draper
15th May 2013, 14:28
Apparently Napoleon had a set of Aluminium knives forks and spoons for his dinner guests at the top table, the poorer folks on the other tables had to make do with gold cutlery.
That surprised me when I first read it,I was taught the French ate with their fingers. :)
Whilst on the subject of Monuments,has none been planned for Neil Armstrong? he did something no other human being will ever do again should humanity last another million year.

15th May 2013, 14:45
Tony D:

There is no monument for Neil Armstrong as of yet.

However, there is the Neil Armstrong Air & Space Museum in the state of Ohio. I believe it's located in the city of Wapakoneta. (Say that 10 times fast!)

tony draper
15th May 2013, 15:55
Rename Mount Mackinley,Mount Armstrong, Mr Armstrong deserves summat geological that will last, not just a lump of bloody architecture.
I mean who was Mackinley? just a bloke who wrote a book about peoples sex lives.

15th May 2013, 16:05
Ah, Tony? Mt. McKinley is name after the 25th US President: William McKinley. I doubt he wrote a book about peoples' sex lives!!!!

tony draper
15th May 2013, 16:08
I know Mr Rock,the book was the Kinsley report not the Mackinley Report,similarity of name, one was making a funny.:rolleyes:
Trying anyway.:(

15th May 2013, 16:09
Sorry Tony. I've always had this propensity of failing to see British humor/humour. Must have been due to the 9 years I was married to a Scouser.

15th May 2013, 16:45
What did the Scouser think?

15th May 2013, 16:48
What did the Scouser think? I'm not sure what you're getting at there, Davaar.

Mac the Knife
15th May 2013, 18:07
"Neil Armstrong...he did something no other human being will ever do again should humanity last another million year."

Technically true, but it's a safe bet that someone will land on Mars within the next 30 years.

A much bigger step.


15th May 2013, 18:28
A Mars landing would never have been considered without Mr Armstrong's step, small as it might be viewed in the future, Mac.

tony draper
15th May 2013, 18:32
Nobody will ever do what Neil Armstrong did, he was the first human being ever to step onto a world other than our own,that cant ever happen again even when or if they get to Mars, because it has already been done,it is a event that can only happen once in the entire history of humanity

15th May 2013, 19:33
Depends how you define 'world'. The moon is a mere satellite.

15th May 2013, 22:13
This is taller than the Washington monument. When we get our independence back we'll rename it the Sam Houston monument.


15th May 2013, 22:46
I think the current plans are to replace the aluminum tip of the Washington Monument with a sickle and hammer.

16th May 2013, 07:38
I hear that Nelson's Column is to be fitted with a window for a muezzin.

16th May 2013, 12:41

And the below is much, much taller than your little San Jacinto Monument. Matter of fact, the below is taller than anything in the Western hemisphere. As of last Friday when the spire was placed on top. making the building 1776' tall. Suck on that, Al Qaeda.


16th May 2013, 12:55
Sorry RGB, not exactly...

The CN Tower (French: Tour CN) is a 553.33 m-high (1,815.4 ft) concrete communications and observation tower in Downtown Toronto, Ontario, Canada

16th May 2013, 13:16
A mere quibble I think, Dushan. This is a magnificent and symbolic achievement rgbrock1, and I for one am full of admiration for it. Particularly, as the consulting structural engineers are a British-based company, and I know that on 9/11 and in the aftermath there was a huge wave of sympathy here for the USA in general, and New York in particular, by the whole population.

One World Trade Center - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One_World_Trade_Center)

16th May 2013, 13:19
Building, Dushan, not a tower. The world trade center is the tallest building in the western hemisphere. the CN tower is not building, but a tower.


uffington sb
16th May 2013, 13:31
New Video Shows Birds Eye View From The WTC (http://news.sky.com/story/1091506/new-video-shows-birds-eye-view-from-the-wtc)

Makes me dizzy just watching this!

16th May 2013, 14:11
Interesting video of the spire top section lift. I noted that the steelwork up to the bolted leg joint level was apparently not yet stabilised by the final set of supporting guy cables, the visible steel attachment lugs for these were clearly lacking the necessary guy shackles and steel cables at that time. Hence the whole spire was noticeably swaying, even before adding on the top section. No doubt the operation was planned to take place when the wind had dropped below a safe speed for that temporary condition. I think that the final inclined guy cables will be an essential part of the structural stability, since a 400 ft high unbraced steel spire would not be stiff enough (nor probably strong enough) to perform satisfactorily in service under high winds. I expect these stabilising guys are already in place, now!

16th May 2013, 14:46
I suppose that Vegas book makers are now taking wagers on when the first attempt to blow up that tower comes.

Over (after) and under (before) is Sept 11, 2013.

I'll bet the over.

16th May 2013, 14:56
But it's the spire that makes it that tall, and my spire is bigger than your spire, so there..

16th May 2013, 16:56
Sorry Dushan, your CN tower steel antenna spire is only 315.4 ft high above the top of concrete. The One WTC steel antenna spire is 408 ft high above top of building, so it's actually bigger than yours! Do try to get it right, old chap ...

Admittedly the total heights to tip of spires are 1815.4 ft (CN) and 1776 ft (1WTC), so the Toronto structure is 39.4 ft higher, but the New York structure was deliberately kept to 1776 ft as a symbolic representation of the year of the US Declaration of Independence. So Uncle Sam could easily have gone up just that smidgen more, if he had wanted to. ;)

P.S. It occurs to me that if our rebellious colony had waited until 1820 or so before cutting loose from us, then 1WTC might have exceeded the CN Tower in total height, as well ... :)

16th May 2013, 17:08
Hey Dushan? What I wrote before and what 603DX wrote as well is a virtually collaborative:


16th May 2013, 17:38
Only one solution I can see, RG & Dushan.

Both your countries will have to apply for membership of the European Union. Then you'll have a lot more to worry about than who has the tallest pylon.........

(You'll get nice long acoholic lunchbreaks, tho.)

16th May 2013, 18:14
OFSO wrote:

(You'll get nice long acoholic lunchbreaks, tho.)

OFSO? Have you been hitting the sauce? What time is over there, 18:11? Yeah, i guess that's good enough!! But the sun isn't down over the yardarm yet, is it?!!!!

Alcoholic lunchbreaks? Ahhhhh, the lasting memories of 2-3 hour lunch breaks in Munich, spent in the Englischer Garten sucking down Mass after Mass (1 ltr. glasses/steins) of Spaten Lager. Gotta love it!

16th May 2013, 18:25
spent in the Englischer Garten

...and the young topless frauleins when spring finally arrives in the Englischer Garten, nicht wahr ?

16th May 2013, 18:29
Well rgbrock1, (continuing the 'mine is bigger than yours' theme), the San Jacinto monument is still the tallest stone column memorial structure in the world, topping the Washington monument by 15 feet or so.

If you want to talk about general building heights, well there are plenty that beat the new WTC, and a one in AQ's back yard, in particular.

16th May 2013, 18:38

The new World Trade Center building is the 3rd largest building in the world, topped only by two other buildings both of which are in the Mideast: one in Mecca, Saudi Arabia and one in Dubai, UAE.

16th May 2013, 18:45
OFSO wrote:

...and the young topless frauleins when spring finally arrives in the Englischer Garten, nicht wahr ?

Ach zu liebe Gott!!! Me and a couple of colleagues were walking back to work after some liquid bread in the English Garden one day and clear out of nowhere, and out of the woods, ran this rather buxom German fraulein. She wasn't topless though. She was stark raving naked. All three of us continued walking to work with our mouths agape!

some of them German women just have no shame!!! :}

G&T ice n slice
16th May 2013, 21:29
I looked up wot that big tower with the star was and found that it wasn't in the peoples' paradise but is in fact elsewhere

and I found this snippet on wikithingy

The San Jacinto Museum ... focuses on ... Texas culture and heritage.

Soooooo ... quite a small museum then?

and whoooosh he was out the door, down the hall, and jinking & jiving making himself a much more difficult target...

16th May 2013, 22:44
G&T ice n' slice:

C'mon back, don't run off!

Every Texas school kid learns Texas history before US history. Upsets the Yankees who move down here for jobs, who flee the impoverished and socialist north, but we think Texas history is indeed very special.

You might want to read up a bit on some of the characters in Texas history. Sam Houston is my favorite: A tough Virginian of Scots-Irish ancestry, he came to Texas via Tennessee, a veteran of the War of 1812 and numerous Indian skirmishes. Wounded, he lived among the Cherokee, learned their language and ways, and became an honorary Cherokee citizen. Later he went to Washington to fight for Cherokee rights, which was a very unpopular thing at the time. Booze got the better of him, then religion; but demons were never far from trying to bring him down.

Houston ended up in Texas, fought for the Texians against the Santa Ana, and eventually won the battle of San Jacinto and with it the independence of Texas. He became the first and third President of the Republic of Texas. After Texas was brought into the Union, he fought to keep Texas out of the Confederacy; again, a very unpopular position with the cotton farmers and fellow southern Senators.

While our sophisticated European betters may laugh at the 'culture' of a place as primitive as Texas, it is characters like these who make history the entertaining subject it is.

You might want to read up a bit on some of these famous Texans and events: Charles Goodnight; the Texas Oil Boom and how Houston became the energy capital of the world; the pirates of Matagorda bay; Big Bend National Park; the lights of Marfa; Ma Ferguson and Ima Hogg; Lefty Gardner and the founding of the Confederate Air Force (now, politically correct Commemorative Air Force); Flaco Jimenez and conjunto music; and how fajitas got on menus in London.

It's all interesting. You won't find many powdered wigs or starched collars (http://www.thestoryoftexas.com/) in our history books. But you might learn a little, and leave a bit of your prejudices behind.

G&T ice n slice
17th May 2013, 07:05
I learned all about Texan history via black & white TV in the 1950's

I always remember the Avis where David Bowie & Betty Crocker fought the Mescalins, every friday evening at 7:30

17th May 2013, 11:16
That's a real thigh slapper, G&T.

G&T ice n slice
17th May 2013, 15:37
well, it WAS a long time ago and I think I may have a few of the details slightly off...

My nephew-in-law is from Texas, so I have had LOTS of practice at "getting it ever so slightly not quite right"

(actually he is a latte-sipping transplant from NY)

17th May 2013, 17:25
I learned all about Texan history via black & white TV in the 1950's. I always remember the Avis where David Bowie & Betty Crocker fought the Mescalins, every friday evening at 7:30
In other words, you know less than SRFA of Texas history.

Suggest you start with stuff written by this guy: T.R. Fehrenbach

"Lone Star: a History of Texas and the Texans" is a nice intro.

Among other things, he wrote one of the better treatments of the US involvement in the Korean War.

Or, you can just remain ignorant.
The choice, G & T, is yours.

G&T ice n slice
17th May 2013, 20:09

toys out of the pram time!!

Looks like I have to decorate all my posts with lots of smileys for some people.