Cathay GMA PH fired!

[SweepTheLeg]

Because he has managed to piss off just about everyone (pilots, FOP, other company managers), PH the Swire Prince, has been let go, not just with CX but with all of Swire as well.

Good riddance. I have never meet an individual with so much disdain and despise for every one around him.

Rumor has it his henchmen such as "basings manager" DL are looking for transfers as well as they were doing his dirty work for him and don't have much of a future without him...

A rare good day for the pilot group.

[cxorcist]

DL is/was not a henchman for PH. That is a categorically false and baseless accusation. CH on the other hand...

Good riddance PH! Worst GMA to date in my time at CX.

[backspace]

So, has he been marched out like the good doctor was?

[fly123456]

bravo :D

Now maybe discussions with the company will be a bit more constructive!

[nitpicker330]

Oh come on don't tease me......


Fingers crossed.....

[broadband circuit]

You beat me to it Nitpicker.........

The last time I felt this teasing sense of ecstatic anticipation was when someone told me that 4-bars had left training.

[Pucka]

Christmas in May..just the best news to date..that man was a growth..

[nitpicker330]

Word on the street about a big announcement this arvo??

Standing by.

[Pucka]

Like..who's next??...

[SMOC]

Word on the street about a big announcement this arvo??

24 -8I's ordered :E

[nitpicker330]

That would be good but unless the first rumour is true they won't have anyone to fly the things!!

2 777 TC's resigned from CX recently and the main reason once again is basings...

[Frogman1484]

Where did you hear that he was let go?

[Liam Gallagher]

The big announcement this afternoon is that DLC is going to be the the new GMA and CX is not buying any VLAs, but is going to buy VIFs (to enable VIFFing).

DLC knows someone selling some Harriers cheap, full service history, one careful elderly lady owner (ma'am), never raced, rallied or rolled.

[Midnight Rambler]

PH looked pretty un-fired today strolling down the street with CH.

[SweepTheLeg]

Just clearing out his desk... and passing along his words of wisdom to CH...

Obviously they'll be an official notice soon enough... just caught everyone off guard.

[asianeagle]

just caught everyone off guard.

not least of all him!:{

cheerio mofo:p

[Black Cloud]

I feel that my leg just got a bit longer. Come on guys, where's the meat to this story? The suspense is killing me.

[broadband circuit]

I've actually heard it from a non-PPRuNe source (And a very reliable source at that)

No details yet

[Black Cloud]

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[iflylow]

When there is smoke...

Spoke with some office staff buddies... word on the street is he got is walking papers yesterday...

[Freehills]

Guess the directors needed a scapegoat to take the heat for all the poor decisions over the last 20 years.

[CYRILJGROOVE]

Dear Muppets

PH the GMA has resigned for personal reasons and to pursue other interests. We would like the thank PH for his valuable contribution to the SWIRE GROUP over many years and wish him well for the future. BULLDUST BULLDUST BULLDUST

[Arfur Dent]

They don't need a scapegoat for the last 20 years (they do actually but there won't be one). They need a scalp for the amateurishly embarrassing cock-ups of the last 2! Do you think Swires are going to sit around and be threatened by the French Government and - God forbid - the HKIRD - without asking who the hell was steering the CX ship? It wasn't PH but he'll do as nobody likes him anyway!!
Good riddance - we need leaders - not YES men.
I just hope this isn't a spoof.

[sizematters]

and we all sing......"Oh, happy days, Oh, happy days when herpes walked, yes, when herpes walked........................

do you think his asshole ever got jealous the amount of ****e came out of his mouth ???

yes, Oh yes, Oh yes

[Numero Crunchero]

Good riddance.

[moosp]

Send an NCO to do an Officers work...? I do hope the rumour is true, for all you guys out there.

But just maybe the position has become so complex that it needs to be split up. Even the previous Phil with a mathematical ability the size of a planet was at his limit most of the time, and that was without the extra politics that drained his resources.

The first person you need is a Cantonese speaker to figure out what the staff are really doing after you told them to execute a plan, (remembering that they will change their patois to ensure you cannot follow everything). Then you need a western educated maths PhD to build and run the crew process algorithms.

The third person you need is someone you can talk to (sorry if I upset you PhD guys but most of you speak in tongues when you get going) who relates to crew members and can work with the day to day variability of a crewing system and can make on the spot decisions based on the grey areas amongst laws, rules, local agreements and common sense.

There are these people out there. But you need the cohones to employ someone who is smarter than you are. Richard Branson could do it, and there are many like him who could sacrifice ego for the good of the company.

[LongTimeInCX]

Is it true, that due to the high level of RSVP acceptance by those wishing to give him a good send off, that the Company has had to increase the size of the venue, and that the FOP's broom cupboard has now been booked for the farewell party?

[CYRILJGROOVE]

Show some decency and give the 18 or so Instructors what they were promised in Terms and Conditions and their seniority.

Honour seniority for upgrades and promotion, reversing the Former GMA policy of manipulating courses (short or long) to allocate courses to suit the company needs only.

Fix the Airbus rosters to allow a decent lifestyle in order to stop the significant difference in course dates for upgrades.

Get Basings started again.

Get a request system that works and gives control over our life.

Bring back Dr Cocks.

Recognise Dragonair is our company and book us in Business on duty.

Stop the rot of PX'ing crew all over the place and generally causing mayhem at any cost just because we want our contract respected. NEGOTIATE fair and equitable rules for utilising the freighter to position crew in order that both sides benefit. for example one for one credit, maximum duty limits for PX ing, maximum numbers on board. Roster the freighter trips so one Capt does not have to operate all 3 sectors on one day.

AND THE LIST COULD GO ON FOREVER.

[CoastalCommand]

So where is that Company Announcement???

[me01]

Haven't seen anything official from the company yet, so you are all cruelly teasing me that he is going!!!!!

[Frogman1484]

I think so to. Usually if you are fired, they march you straight out of the door...or they send you a DHL letter!:suspect:

[NoAndThen]

Sh*t dude, you are all so skeptical...

They wanted him out, probably gave him two weeks to come up with a good excuse on why he's leaving and then will send him packing... He wasn't a pilot (who would normally be escorted by security out the door). Though retarded, was a Swire prince and at that level of selling yourself out they need to come up with some spin to put out as a press release.

[nitpicker330]

An old saying in Aviation:- don't believe it till you see it parked at the gate. :ok:

Pprune at its best.....:D

[iflylow]

Perhaps with the long weekend starting tomorrow, and with this news spreading like wildfire, the DFO will be forced to put something in his update this afternoon... or better yet it will be a GMA update instead!

I for one think that if they don't address anything today that is further proof that he's gone...

[I'mbatman]

Honestly, what difference does it make? It's not like anyone is gonna like the next guy either.

Their job is to work against you, not with you.

Pilots want more $$ and time off, and GMA's want maximization and cost control.

Don't kid yourselves that things will be better.

[The FUB]

Here's an idea, disband the position of GMA thus saving $$$.
Get a rubber plant and put it in his former office, I hear that this worked quite well in the old Classic office.

[AAIGUY]

Actually, I think their job is to make money, as much as possible.
Somehow is got into the Swire manual this was best accomplished with an adversarial stance.
I for one think far greater profits could be realized if both parties weren't working against each other

[PatObrien]

LTICX , bravo.

Cyril, you too. I stand in your knowledge shadow (other posts).

Keep 'em going...

[me01]

Just confirmed by DFO, GMA is leaving in a few weeks.:{

[Liam Gallagher]

DFO: "Are you the new guy Swire House sent down to be the new GMA?"

GMA 2.0 "yeah, but my desk seems to be buried under all these papers"

DFO. "The Chief Pilots brought them up yesterday and ran away muttering something about 1000 D&Gs claiming $100m in back-pay. I have been ignoring this for years and suggest you do likewise. Can you take a call on line 1, the guy sounds official and sounds pretty upset, some French person"

GMA 2.0. "where's my IR specialist"

DFO: "He..err...um .. was fir... (cough) .. returned to flying duties last month.

:)

[nitpicker330]

Well well well.

Interesting how he's staying in HK.

[Progress Wanchai]

Joining the other Failed Phil as a used property salesman apparently.

Did have a quiet chuckle at the spin (or total lack thereof)
In the last round of Swine musical chairs the music stopped and unfortunately PH was left standing. Oh, there was a chair available. We just told PH he couldn't sit down. We'll find a replacement game player soon as we're thinking more chairs than players is a rather odd game.

[CoastalCommand]

Anna Thompson 21 years with Swire come back PH

[Pucka]

It'll be messy...very messy..heads will roll and life will be as it was..no pongo..just a girlie doing the same GDT...ouch!!

[fly123456]

maybe he was fired because of too many missed ATC calls in China :E

[Hellenic aviator]

[QUOTE]Honestly, what difference does it make? It's not like anyone is gonna like the next guy either.

Their job is to work against you, not with you.

Pilots want more $$ and time off, and GMA's want maximization and cost control.

Don't kid yourselves that things will be better./QUOTE]

TRUE!

How we soon we forget, SK et al. :hmm: