A350 Rollout

[SMOC]

If it looks right it flies right as they say.

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[nitpicker330]

Looks like a Racoon with the Black window frames!!

I guess for an Airbus it doesn't look too bad.

Especially since they copied the 787:ok:

[nitpicker330]

Yep the A380 is the Dugong
The A350 we'll call the Racoon...:p

[grumbles69]

Smart looking aircraft! ::D

[Fly747]

It will come complete with a special "in your own time" study deal just like for the -8!

[cxorcist]

The wings' chord length looks too short for the size of the fuselage. It looks as if it might not have enough wing, sorta like the MD-11. No wonder Airbus is making the wing bigger on the A350-1000. I hope it works as advertised... Otherwise they are going to have to turn up the heat on the engines, which means it will never hit its specs.

[stilton]

Not an Airbus fan but I think it looks pretty good, a lot better than the aesthetically challenged 787.


Wing looks fine, looks like it will really cruise at .85

[iceman50]

The usual cr@p from cxorcist.

We know you love boeing! Take the blinkers off :ugh::ugh:

[Flap10]

The wings' chord length looks too short for the size of the fuselage. It looks as if it might not have enough wing

cxorcist just forwarded your post to Airbus. As we speak there is an emergency meeting to re-evaluate the years of computer aided design and wind tunnel tests. Thanks for pointing out such a crucial oversight through one pic. You da Man :ok::ok::ok::ok:

[Captain Dart]

It didn't take the (unpaid?) publicity consultant for the Boeing Company long...and since McDonnell Douglas was taken over, isn't the MD11 just another ageing Boeing?

[treboryelk]

cxorcist

welcome to the 21st century!

[Steve the Pirate]

The vertical and horizontal tail surfaces look totally inadequate as well - oh, hang on a minute, could that be some sort of photographic distortion? :)

Good looking aircraft - can't wait to fly it!

STP

[freightdog188]

Father Ted: 'Small' vs 'Far Away' - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=vh5kZ4uIUC0)

[cxorcist]

:D

I must admit that I enjoy getting you all riled up in defense of your beloved Airbus. Is it your heritage that causes you to vehemently defend all things EADS? Or is it that you fly Airbus now and will very likely continue to do so for the rest of your CX career? Maybe both.

It was just an observation, but thank you for the reminder about size and distance. The fact is that the -1000's wing has a much longer chord. Obviously Airbus thought it needed more wing than the -900. It is also a fact that many airlines are opting for the -1000 over the -900, including CX.

That said, I hope the -900 does well because it has the potential to open up long thin routes for CX. Flying to smaller, long haul destinations is not something that CX has traditionally done. It would be nice to expand the route map a bit.

In terms of wind tunnels and design, it would not be the first time if things did not pan out as expected. The MD-11 certainly came up short, as did the A346. So let's not pretend that could not happen again, even if it is the 21st century:ok:

[Threethirty]

One of the 350 chief wing designers lives in my village in the UK, only 35, good lad he is.

[RAC/OPS]

There are 350 chief wing designers? No wonder they got it wrong!

[nitpicker330]

Interesting how a Fire truck is positioned 100' behind the 350!! They expecting a fire ??

[iceman50]

cxorcist

Nice try.

But wrong on so many levels, try your argument against yourself and your "love" of anything Boeing.

You are also completely wrong about the 346, it was not designed for the JFK route that was the 345.

You don't get us riled up its just tiresome.

Nitpicker - probably elf and safety!

[Cpt. Underpants]

"can't wait to fly it!"

Surely you meant "can't wait to interface with it's fatally flawed, un intuitive organic/digital input system"?

The last aircraft I "flew" was a 737...and that's a stretch.

[SweepTheLeg]

You have to give credit where credit is due...

It's a nice looking modern airplane...

Haters are gonna hate!

[cxorcist]

Iceman,

If it's tiresome... Don't reply. Simple.

Are you saying the A346 does exactly what it was designed to do?

If so, did CX misuse the aircraft by flying it to JFK?

Didn't CX lease 3 A346s specifically for the JFK route?

Do you think the A345 would have done better economically?

If you choose to answer, let's stay on topic.

[cxorcist]

Yes, the airplane looks nice. Certainly, it is the best looking Airbus to date.

[Flap10]

Please enlighten us cxorcist....what are your credentials? And I am not talking about spending time and browsing through archived Cathay CFPs :ugh

You post as if you have some sort of deep technical insight on everything Boeing and Airbus...but the truth is you know sh!t... but you want to seem as if you know everything. You're exactly like the character Cliff in the sitcom Cheers...Pathetic!!!!

For your reference

John Ratzenberger portrays Cliff Clavin, a know-it-all bar regular and postal worker, he lives with his mother Esther Clavin (Frances Sternhagen) in first the family house and later an apartment. In the bar, Cliff unwittingly says things that either annoy people, motivate people into mocking him, drive people away, confuse people, are inaccurate, or are unnecessary to people.


:ok::ok::ok::ok:

[cxorcist]

Flaps 10,

Please enlighten me as to what kind of credentials you are looking for? If you are seeking equations and diagrams, you are on the wrong forum. I never went past Aero/Astro 101 in university.

Mine was a simple observation about the A350 wing's chord and the fact that Airbus is putting larger wing (specifically with more chord) on the -1000. Take it or leave it.

I really do hope the A350 is successful, for CX's sake. We are massively invested as an airline in the program.

If you disagree about the A345/6 on the polar route, make your case... I'm happy to debate that. Plenty of information out there to regurgitate. Perhaps a new thread would be most appropriate.

Cheers!

PS - I've never looked at an archived A346 CFP.

[Pucka]

Flap10.....cliff...!!! Just brilliant..spot on!!

[SubsonicMortal]

@ Cpt. Underpants

Surely you meant "can't wait to interface with it's fatally flawed, un intuitive organic/digital input system"?

You obviously have no clue what you are talking about. The bench level for the "input system" as you so eloquently put it, is based on the A380 KCCU and MFD. I can tell you from experience that the FMS on that machine is by far the best piece of kit of any civilian airliner. No doubt the 350 will be even better. Looking at the 350 cockpit you'll also observe that the OIT was moved higher to be in line with the PFD and ND displays vs. the 380 where it sits considerably lower and is partly blocked by the sidestick. This is just one of the major improvements in the 350 over the 380 cockpit.

http://www.aviationexplorer.com/Airbus_A350_Cockpit_Pictures/airbus-a350-cockpit.jpg

To the Boeing proponents, by any comparison the 777 and 747's are great machines. However, as a PILOT (not a bean counter, office boy, CEO etc), all I am interested in is comfort during my hours on duty. That means a comfortable seat to sit on, plenty of space in front of me, a tray to eat my meal on and in the 380's case, the quietest cockpit and cabin of any aircraft in service today. Flying 14 hours in a 380 as crew leaves you considerably less tired than doing the same thing in a 747. So, who the hell cares about the "flying qualities" of the machine. If you've been doing this job for a decade or longer the fun of flying becomes a function of comfort. The 380 delivers on that and the 350 will no doubt be even better.

[CokeZero]

is it just me but I'm getting a hard on !!!!! (hahahahaahaha)

Maverick, we don't have fuel for this........

[crwkunt roll]

Looks like a Racoon with the Black window frames!!
Looks more like the Space Shuttle, which the Airbus Check and Trainers would certainly relish!!

Otherwise they are going to have to turn up the heat on the engines, which means it will never hit its specs.

The only thing an Airbus engine with the heat turned up will do, is burn your hair.

[Kasompe]

Beautiful aircraft....and hopefully it'll live up to its promises!
Prefer the 787 flightdeck though...:ok:

[Sqwak7700]

Looks like a Racoon with the Black window frames!!


They had to do something to set it apart from the 787. Without the mask, it would be too obvious how much it looks like the Boeing.

[SMOC]

Update on the real thing, quite different to the rendering.

360 view icon-eye-open | A350 XWB by Airbus (http://www.a350xwb.com/x-tra/360-cockpit-view/)


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[Shutterbug]

However, as a PILOT (not a bean counter, office boy, CEO etc), all I am interested in is comfort during my hours on duty.

Apparently, some enterprising Aviators at AI came up with a work-around for the eternal battle with fatigue:

Air India pilots nap, let flight attendants fly plane - UPI.com (http://www.upi.com/blog/2013/05/03/Air-India-pilots-take-nap-let-flight-attendants-fly-plane/3061367594111/)


As to the A350's sexiness... on a plane porn scale of 5 boners I'd rate it 2 1/2 boners.

[Kasompe]

Flightdeck still looks like an Antonov.... Good looking aircraft, though, and love that wing!:ok:

[pill]

Can't see it happening. Wonder if I'll be able to use my type joker to get on it.
I heard the plan is to crew it with 744 guys as that type is retired from pax ops. Happy campers all round.

[The FUB]

Cannot see the A350 being crewed by the B747 pilots, as most will be retiring with the ac, and the rest will be remaining on type to fly the freighter.

[Oval3Holer]

Looks like Airbus added a bunch of extra probes on the nose, just in case the others become blocked with ice!

[1200firm]

They should have kept the 3 leased A346's to do the JNB run. An ideal a/c for that route/port IMHO.

[Cpt. Underpants]

Agree, but they only needed 2. I really liked it, IMHO the best of the three, once it had settled it and the AML/MEL odysseys were over.

It's a shame that AB were so dishonest in their dealings with CX whilst negotiations were ongoing for a new ULH machine. If CXs RFI had been appropriately dealt with, it would have been a different story entirely.

I like the 777 - a lot - but the hot and high performance of a twin has really nobbled the ER for JNB. The 346 could manage JNB, easily, on a hot summers day, full load of punters and fuel to spare...

[Iver]

Wrong forum, but what is the likelihood that EK will keep its A350 order and not focus more on the new 777X and A380s? Any predictions?