Prince Harry....The Soldier!

[SASless]

Nothing need be said.....beyond what a great thing to do!

Hand Salute Sir!


Arlington National Cemetery, Arlington Virginia.



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[MightyGem]

Hey SAS, I know you're American, but does your photo have to be bigger than everyone else's? :E

[SASless]

It was a grand gesture....so i figured a big photo was in order....and Harry deserves a lot of thanks for his thoughtfulness.

[puma230]

Bloody good effort, well done Harry.

[BOAC]

Will he have the odd party with a few lovelies while he is there? You know, renewing old contacts?:)

[rjtjrt]

An example for all of us in the principle of "less is more".
Simple, sincere and respectful.
I am reminded of the changing of the guard at Buckingham Palace the day or so after the 11th of September, 2011,
when I understand they played the US National Anthem instead of
God Save The Queen.
It must have been a wonderful moment,
and again we should all see the value of understated sincerity.
John

[P6 Driver]

There are some good photos of his Arlington visit on the web.

Also on the web, elsewhere, is the advice to him: "Keep your clothes on and stay away from Vegas!".

[CoffmanStarter]

Nice piece on CNN ...

Prince Harry Arlington (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7ecAQvrM04&feature=player_detailpage)

[ericferret]

He has probably just done more to improve anglo-american relations in a single visit than all the politicians have achieved in their endless hot air sessions.

[Always Up]

Nice one, good for you Harry.

[SASless]

RJ mentioned another occasion worth remembering.



9/11 American National Anthem Buckingham Palace - YouTube

[BOAC]

"Keep your clothes on and stay away from Vegas!". - Hmm - I suspect worthless advice, since I'm sure any number of US pretty's would travel long distances to have their piccy taken receiving a Royal porking.He has probably just done more to improve anglo-american relations in a single visit - was that this time or last?

A few thoughts 'arise' on 'cementing' UK-US relations (if you pardon the expressions and mis-spelling):

Do the ladies concerned get a plaque they can hang over their beds - "By Appointment, Purveyor of Nookie to HRH...."

Does the Royal Protection team have to vet each and every and are there any jobs going there?

In the extremely unlikely event of progeny arriving as a result, where would he/she/they be in the succession?

Poor fellow will be haunted by the letters 'USA' for a while, I suspect.

However, he's doing a great job at the moment, indeed.

[SASless]

When Andy was here for a visit....the US Navy's NCIS provided the Personal Security Detail (PSD).

One of the NCIS Special Agents evidently provided very close protection to Andrew....and upon his leaving gave him a Token of her esteem...that being what is known as a PSD Pin. If you notice the Secret Service and other PSD Teams....they all have a unique Lapel device (PSD Pin) that allows them to immediately identify one another as being on the same "Team".

At NCIS...that PSD Pin is ranked with the Badge, Credentials (Warrant Card you call them I think), and the Firearm in importance re custody, security, and safeguarding.

NCIS took no punitive action against her and within a few short months....she had been hired by the Secret Service and assigned to Jimmy Carter's PSD down in Georgia.

[SOSL]

SASless I have recently read most of your posts and I now offer you an unconditional and public apology. I was wrong! Hand salute.

Turning to your last post on this thread - it seems she wasn't the only one who went down to Georgia.

The Charlie Daniels Band - The Devil Went Down To Georgia - YouTube

Rgds SOS

[sisemen]

RJ mentioned another occasion worth remembering.

And that's a quiet reminder that despite all the piss-takes and some of the antsy angst on here there's a reason why the Americans and the British (including Canada, Australia, New Zealand etc) are called "cousins".

[SASless]

Harry is attending the Warrior Games in Colorado and getting lots of attention from our Media.....all positive too.

Typical Gunship Pilot....hogging the spotlight!

[brickhistory]

Good on him.

[SASless]

OOPS!

Harry showed his Ass and got caught on film!


Harry's the fall guy! Prince takes a tumble in game of sitting volleyball with wounded service members competing in Paralympic style Warrior Games | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2323099/Harrys-fall-guy-Prince-takes-tumble-game-sitting-volleyball-wounded-service-members-competing-Paralympic-style-Warrior-Games.html)













But not in the way you were thinking!

[TT2]

With not enough educational quals to even approach aircrew selection centre, in fact if we look back and remember, there was a bit of scandal over his dodged up arts degree.

There must be thousands of guys and gals who have studied hard and watch every single thing that flies past / over them and say to themselves, "I want, I want, I want".

But their Granny doesn't own the AF. Nor own PR reps.

I worked my bollocks of to be a pilot, and indeed learned a fantastic amount form Senior Techs when I went into Engineering. Respect to all SAC's.

Still involved in the aircraft defence supply industry in the Far East, I'd rather have a conversation with a Bangkok whore - at least they have some life experience and a sense of humour, do not dress up in Nazi uniforms and whilst suffering a drunken memory loss do not accidently wander into the toilet zone to inhale something that is reminiscent of powdered lactate.

I'm sure the Cotswolds crowd would happily string me up for these comments, but the boy is nothing more than a puppet.
Let's see him do an 'O' level maths paper (Or whatever it is called now).

You actually think they are going to let him in harm's way?. Spoilt wee boy who has never worked for anything in his life.

His Mum got killed? Yup - scooting around Afghanistan in a gunship, how many motherless children these days?.

I await, either a fair hearing or deleted or banned. tis' a Democracy after all.

[Al R]

TT2

I wouldn't begrudge you your opinion, however you wish to discuss it.

I remember showing Harry my sniper rifle and him telling me he wanted to be a soldier. His mum looked down on him, smiled and told him, 'not on my nellie' or something similar. Cut him some slack.. you talk about him having no life experiences - have you buried your mum before the entire world and had acomplete cross spectrum of opinion about yourself, your parents and your activities shoved down your throat?

Whatever you think about his past, he is doing something worthwhile. Still, Sunderland have just scored against Southampton so don't worry, I'm not bothered too much about what you think. ;)

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[Chugalug2]

Good post Al, well said! Can't say much more as I'm being squeezed off the page by SAS's enormous pic! Like yours though. Just shows that size isn't everything, doesn't it?

Edit, Oh, just noticed that I'm on the next page, thus negating most of what I said. Mother, Father, kindly disregard this letter!

[Anthony Supplebottom]

I think he's just being British.

We tend to be well behaved - in the main.

[parabellum]

You don't/didn't need 'O' levels to go to Biggin Hill for Aircrew selection.

[cokecan]

he also didn't go to university, so why anyone would honk off about a dodgy arts degree is somewhat beyond me...

TT2's point might have had more, err... point if he had managed to talk about the right brother - which kind of mitigates against his claim that 'i'm a bright lad who worked bloody hard - why should this thick, lazy fecker get it for nowt' claim.

can't differentiate between two brothers who look different, are in different services and have had every detail of the education and careers broadcast to the world? probably best if you stay away from complex machinery....

[snagged1]

TT2

"I worked my bollocks of to be a pilot, and indeed learned a fantastic amount form Senior Techs when I went into Engineering" -

So did you make it through flying training to the frontline and then go into engineering later or ?

Like Harry and many others, I joined without a degree, ended up single seat - a degree and school quals can make zero difference, or a world of difference - it all depends on the individual.
Regardless, he went through flying training, graduated, and has now been on operations performing his duty - there is no space on the frontline for pilots not able to perform, so rest assured he clearly has talent and is good at his job.

[Runaway Gun]

I don't believe that TT2 passed high school English.

[Genstabler]

I infer from a remark on a post on another thread that he doesn't have any medals to wear and that he has therefore never been in harms way. I therefore conclude that his class hate driven tirade against an Apache pilot who has done two operational tours in Afghanistan is a bit rich, even for him.

[Chicken Leg]

Spoiled wee brat.
With not enough educational quals to even approach aircrew selection centre, in fact if we look back and remember, there was a bit of scandal over his dodged up arts degree.

There must be thousands of guys and gals who have studied hard and watch every single thing that flies past / over them and say to themselves, "I want, I want, I want".

But their Granny doesn't own the AF. Nor own PR reps.

I worked my bollocks of to be a pilot, and indeed learned a fantastic amount form Senior Techs when I went into Engineering. Respect to all SAC's.

Still involved in the aircraft defence supply industry in the Far East, I'd rather have a conversation with a Bangkok whore - at least they have some life experience and a sense of humour, do not dress up in Nazi uniforms and whilst suffering a drunken memory loss do not accidently wander into the toilet zone to inhale something that is reminiscent of powdered lactate.

I'm sure the Cotswolds crowd would happily string me up for these comments, but the boy is nothing more than a puppet.
Let's see him do an 'O' level maths paper (Or whatever it is called now).

You actually think they are going to let him in harm's way?. Spoilt wee boy who has never worked for anything in his life.

His Mum got killed? Yup - scooting around Afghanistan in a gunship, how many motherless children these days?.

I await, either a fair hearing or deleted or banned. tis' a Democracy after all.
Wow! There's some serious bitterness in that post! You poor little man.

I can assure you that Harry is a very good pilot and passed his course on merit alone. I don't expect that my assurances will help to remove the obvious chip on your shoulder, but it doesn't alter the facts.

[just another jocky]

TT2 - you are living proof that, despite the fact that everyone is entitled to an opinion, there's no requirement upon us to take any notice of said opinion.

It must be reassuring to all those involved in the Far East aircraft defence supply industry that such an intelligent, well informed and balanced individual is supporting them. :ok:

[500N]

Prince Harry seems to have done wonders for US / UK relations.

He even managed to get a Major General to get on his hands and knees !

.

[Tashengurt]

I guess TT2 is entitled to their opinion. Five years ago I might have been inclined to agree but since then I think Captain Wales has matured into an impressive man and officer.
Yes, paths may have been smoothed for him. When you're third in line that's probably inevitable but he could have taken advantage and got a nice city job or gone on a perpetual gap year.
I don't believe there's a shred of evidence that he doesn't deserve his Apache seat.





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[MightyGem]

With not enough educational quals to even approach aircrew selection centre,
For the RAF maybe. He's in the Army. You don't need any educational qualifications to apply for Pilot training(unless things have changed since I was in). As long as you can pass selection, your in.

Do you want fish with those chips? :E

[airborne_artist]

With not enough educational quals to even approach aircrew selection centre,

For the RAF maybe. He's in the Army. You don't need any educational qualifications to apply for Pilot training(unless things have changed since I was in). As long as you can pass selection, your in.

But bear in mind that there will be people still serving (just) in the RAF and RN (not so sure about the green/brown jobs) who joined on an SCC/MCC with five O-levels. Only General List entrants needed A-levels at that time.

M'learned friend Arkroyal was quite literally driving a London bus in his early 20s, went to night school to get the O-levels he'd missed out on and went to Dartmouth aged 25. He's now/was til recently in the LHS for a LoCo.

[TT2]

Dont't know about you and when you went to Biggin, but when I went, 5 O' levels or O' grades were minimum - maths and English essential. Highers were even better.

I don't think having a tutor dodge up paintings was an acceptable qual.

AAC worked to a different set of qualifications - the recruitment Sergeant I spoke to maintained that if I joined as a grunt in three years I could be a helo pilot. For some peculiar reason, I believed him not............

Yes, I truly enjoyed the flying, it was hard work to get there. I also am absolutely indebted to the Engineers who helped me along the way - truly a fascinating vocation and that's what I still do.

I remain current and indeed was trundling around Khao Yai with Fon on Friday which was nice. Lovely scenery from 3000 feet. (Make like not bump into mountains during rain showers).

Anyway, I pay my taxes in full and am thus entitled to an opinion - it is a democracy isn't it? Is it?.

[Genstabler]

Of course you are entitled to your opinion. This is indeed a democracy and I for one would fight tooth and nail to preserve your right to make a total knob of yourself on a public forum. So, I suspect, would Harry.

[Tashengurt]

TT2, of course you're entitled to your opinion. You're also entitled to come across as a bit of a buffoon and with your insistence that Harry did an arts degree, that's what you're doing. Trust me. I was an engineer. Kinda.


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[SASless]

Just as he has a right to his Opinion....he also has the Right to remain silent too!

Far better to be thought a Fool....than to open one's festering Gob and remove all doubt!

[diginagain]

AAC worked to a different set of qualifications - the recruitment Sergeant I spoke to maintained that if I joined as a grunt in three years I could be a helo pilot. For some peculiar reason, I believed him not............It's a pity you didn't give him the benefit of your doubt. Many Army aircrew did just that.

[TT2]

errr.......what do bits of tin have to do with it?. I am sure you are an educated chap and are fully aware of Napolean's statement in this regard. I actually have had a .45 stuffed in my face by an extremely irate Cambodian who thought I was chatting up his G/F - wrong. I cannot speak Khmer.

Thai Marines I was with thought it was hilarious. She was rather pretty though.

[TT2]

"In June 2003, he completed his education at Eton with two A-Levels (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Level_(UK))[13] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prince_Harry_of_Wales#cite_note-14) (achieving a grade B in art and D in Geography) having decided to drop history of art after AS level"

One would kind of think that a knowledge of geography would be of importance to a potential Army Officer - good grief, that's why his great granny made her fortune. She knew where places were (it's called an atlas).

In my days a 'D' was less than 50% - i.e. Fail. PPl's have to get 75% on the tests.

Jeez, 4 years at Eton and that's all he gets, bit expensive like, for no result.

In my day an art A level would not even have got you past the initial interview in the local recruitment office. You had to have maths and english + 3 others minimum.

Someone here called me 'Bitter' : What bollocks. I actually have quite a nice life - it is pleasant. I get to fiddle with aircraft and helos, get to wander around with no restrictions, have three extremely nice ladies who are pals to a point, and speak the lingo of bordering countries. (As well as this one). But not Khmer, don't know why. Lao is O.K., various dialects in Thai are O.K., Puu Tai (Isaan dialect) is O.K., Burmese is O.K.

One thing is, that I get to meet people from many AF's and Mil and have a laugh without wondering about property and pension deprecation in Blighty.

And wander off to a nice wee private beach anytime I want. Bitter?. Tee hee. No.

Crack on chaps...........enjoy the memories. The clock is ticking.

[Bob Viking]

That's a good photo.
The years have been...

...Kind!

BV:E:ok:

[Anonystude]

In my day an art A level would not even have got you past the initial interview in the local recruitment office. You had to have maths and english + 3 others minimum.

You have 5 A Levels TT2? Impressive.

Presumably even more so given they were probably from when the dinosaurs walked the Earth...

[woptb]

"In June 2003, he completed his education at Eton with two A-Levels[13] (achieving a grade B in art and D in Geography) having decided to drop history of art after AS level"

One would kind of think that a knowledge of geography would be of importance to a potential Army Officer - good grief, that's why his great granny made her fortune. She knew where places were (it's called an atlas).

In my days a 'D' was less than 50% - i.e. Fail. PPl's have to get 75% on the tests.

Jeez, 4 years at Eton and that's all he gets, bit expensive like, for no result.

In my day an art A level would not even have got you past the initial interview in the local recruitment office. You had to have maths and english + 3 others minimum.

Someone here called me 'Bitter' : What bollocks. I actually have quite a nice life - it is pleasant. I get to fiddle with aircraft and helos, get to wander around with no restrictions, have three extremely nice ladies who are pals to a point, and speak the lingo of bordering countries. (As well as this one). But not Khmer, don't know why. Lao is O.K., various dialects in Thai are O.K., Puu Tai (Isaan dialect) is O.K., Burmese is O.K.

One thing is, that I get to meet people from many AF's and Mil and have a laugh without wondering about property and pension deprecation in Blighty.

And wander off to a nice wee private beach anytime I want. Bitter?. Tee hee. No.

Crack on chaps...........enjoy the memories. The clock is ticking.
14th May 2013 19:25


Not meant to be a personal criticism;You have a rather odd turn of phrase,sounds like you've swallowed a pi55ed up Babel fish,or is it moi?

[Bevo]

As a “span”, I believe that between Prince Harry, Prince William and Kate, I can see a real advantage to having a non-political entity to represent ones country. It also appears that Diana, Princess of Wales, did a fine job during the time she was Harry and William’s mother, as well as representing the UK. However, then I see Charles and think maybe it’s not necessarily a great idea.

[500N]

TT2
Not everyone does well at good schools, regardless of how much money
it cost. I didn't and went to similar type boarding school to Harry.
Left at O Level but when I went back to do a degree, no problems.

Many factors for that, maturity, stress especially with his particular
circumstances. The fact is, he left and got on with his life and made
a success of it.

[TT2]

8 O' Grades and 5 Highers. We didn't get much of a choice - the 'Nobody fails' issue had not been invented then. Biggin Hill was fun for a young lad, met a great many people from diverse backgrounds, some of whom I bumped into over the years in civil life, and always a good reunion over a beer or three.

The only dinasours I ever met were career officers, non flying, non engineering, just waiting out the pension and gratuity. Nasty people who whilst deep in the gin bottle got into 'What might have been mode'.

Once worked in team where we had a fitter who whilst in the RAF had been more or less forced into marrying the SWO's daughter. Horror story.
He must have been on some serious mind altering drugs to find her attractive enough to get her pregnant...........The horror. Poor guy spent his out of work hours in a state of total intoxication.

[TT2]

You ever read Chaucher? We were forced to. French was far easier.
The English language is diverse and I shall use it anyway I wish. Been to Liverpool or Hackney recently?. Hmmmmmmmmmm:ok:

[TT2]

'you've swallowed a pi55ed up Babel fish,or is it moi?'

Kaw tod khrap tii khun mye kow jye : khun mye rue phom passa arai : phom kiit khun pye hoop pla. I'm sure that makes as much sense as Shakespeare to you.........Anyway, enjoy Coronation Street or Emmerdale, whatever.

[Al R]

Bob

It was all going so well until I left and slipped into a hard paper round. :(

[Roland Pulfrew]

When in a hole it is probably best to stop digging.

You had to have maths and english + 3 others minimum.



Yep - at 'O'-level. :rolleyes:

[Genstabler]

Who's Chaucher?
TT2. Please give up. Every post you make reveals more about who you are and what drives you. It is becoming embarrassing.

[Roland Pulfrew]

and what drives you

Quite a few bottles of Beer Chang or Singha I'm guessing.

[woptb]

Who's Chaucher?
TT2. Please give up. Every post you make reveals more about who you are and what drives you. It is becoming embarrassing

Come on Genstabler,buckup;Chaucher,Shakespie & Oscar P Widebeest bestride the literary world like dyslexic behemoths.
Sounds to me like TT2 is down with the kids. TT are you familiar with that doyen of SE Asian literature Ming Monged ?

[Tray Surfer]

I have been exceptionally privileged, in my opinion, to serve both Prince Harry and Prince William on flights, and have the upmost respect for them both.

Harry was slightly more relaxed and chatted in the galley and I found him to be a most genuine and friendly man.

I have unending respect and thanks for what everyone in our armed forces and their families does for us, and that extends to every level.

I think it was a lovely gesture to do what he did, leaving that note on the flowers, and think that any message, no matter who it is from, paying respect, deserves respect in its self.

TS
:)

[TT2]

Yup. Five O levels or O grades with English and math mandatory. They also liked physics..........

What is the point of having a minimum educational standard when it is so easily bypassed because of a family name?. Simples really.

Don't drink Chang - if those out there wish to so, or indeed as so many bored retirees do, get a Saeng Som habit, it is entirely up to you.

I like a nice cooled bottle of white with seafood with Ms F and Ms A on my weekends away from the smoke. Quite pleasant actually.

They argue the house down speaking politics and I read a book and generally have a snooze. Quite pleasant at my age.

Nope, you aren't getting pics - have to meet the gals an myself in person and make your own minds up as to exactly what is my life.

Enjoy Emmerdale or Corrie. I'll sleep like a babe. (Without Chang or Singha).

Norn dee, faan dee.............

[TT2]

And how was your career as a cleaning assistant to a dog handler's auxilary?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geoffrey_Chaucer

I believe that you may be in need of a guided tour of a peculiar place called a 'Library'. Why, you might even enjoy it. Perhaps.

[Clockwork Mouse]

Chaucer/Chaucher.
Yes TT2, in every post you make you prove you are even thicker than we previously thought. Please give up! Pretty please!

[Canadian Break]

Maths dear boy, not that awful American idiom Math! Do try harder or I simply shall not waste more of my time watching you waste yours! Toodle Pip!

[Roland Pulfrew]

What is the point of having a minimum educational standard when it is so easily bypassed because of a family name?. Simples really.

Obviously 2 simple for you TT. In your own post you quote that Prince Harry got 8 GCSEs (or in your day 'O'- levels) so he met the old minimum requirement of 5 'O'-levels. Simple really.:rolleyes:

Minimum education requirement to join the British Army as an officer:

35 ALIS points (34 for SCEs) from 7 GCSE/SCE subjects, with a minimum grade C/2 in English language, maths and either a science or a foreign language; plus 240 UCAS Tariff points from at least two A level passes grades A-E or SCE Higher grades A-D.

[woptb]

Kaw tod khrap tii khun mye kow jye : khun mye rue phom passa arai : phom kiit khun pye hoop pla

Dos i grafu pen cachi - iawn.
Yin dee krap.

[TT2]

Was always a bit confused about that : It is the sole study of a specific subject - so is that singular or plural?.

[TT2]

Dos i grafu pen cachi - iawn.
Yin dee krap

What exactly is that language supposed to be? Yen dee, fair enough as used by tout Indian tailors in tourist joints and illegal Banglis trying to sell you nuts of an evening.

Cos' I'd written a repost in phonetic Thai I thought that perhaps you were doing the same. Alas, Ms F and A didn't have a clue either, nor did the Burmese maid. Transpires it is some sort of Welsh.

Oh dear.

I've heard the proposed national anthem - "Baa Baa Black sheep, have you any sisters":ok:

Kaw tawd khrap, jai yen yen....................

[TT2]

Away with you - you will note that there are considerable changes in modern spelling from Shakespear's time and ours. Chaucer wrote in what is a foreign language these days.

Given when he kept his diaries and that England had been under Norman feudalism for some considerable time, would it be reasonable to assume the dipthong as a literal translation from the French?.

Anyway - back to the subject : Were my nephew, a pleasant enough 21 year old at Uni be daft enough to get pissed at a party dressed in a Nazi uniform, and his face splashed over the press be allowed to join the Mil?.

I doubt it would be put down to 'Youthful high spirits' but a total lack of understanding of any history and the evils commited by that uniform. And surely would be duly punished in court.

Depends who your Granny is I suppose, in the Blighty democracy.

[Duncan D'Sorderlee]

TT2,

If your, pleasant enough, 21 year old nephew to get pissed at a party wearing a Nazi uniform, I doubt very much that anyone would care, let alone publish it in a newspaper. It would not affect his opportunity to join the military, nor, I suspect, would it (in the UK) see him in court. But then again, I suspect that may have something to do with the identity of his granny.

Duncs:ok:

[Genstabler]

This thread is supposed to be about Prince Harry the soldier. It has been hijacked by TT2 to publicise his ego, bile and ignorance. Can a mod please rid us of this troublesome git?

[just another jocky]

Well said Gen. :D

[TT2]

Well, it would, would it not if his face was splashed over the newspapers - given the anti hate legislation in the EU. Goodness, if my long dead Grannies had had any family member ever dressed up in a Nazi uniform they would have been immediately ostracised.

Severe sense of humour about mass murder for political ends. No laughing matter. I met Hun Sen at the Oz Embassy party in 99' - still have his card.
What a nice, smiley little toad he was / is.

We just scoffed the free wine and steak sarnies and ignored the participant in mass murder - would you do that, or make a business connection?.

Like they say.........up to you.

[TT2]

Interesting reply : You are suggesting that there be no dissention in the ranks but presume to believe in free speech?. Or not?.

I have hijacked nothing, nothing at all but merely stated that there are a bunch of young guys and gals out there gagging for a job driving aircraft / helos but don't get the chance because someone who could not even meet the minimum quals got a position due to family name and PR.

If you actually knew anyone that I know from whatever nation, they will state that I am actually an 'easy ozy' kind of person and have a laugh most days with whatever is going on.

Perhaps one day you can meet me in person and make your own mind up.
Glass or two of wine, some seafood and amenable company - got to be better than cocoa and Emmerdale.

Whatever.