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tony draper
5th May 2013, 20:35
sex scandals?
This is a interesting watch.
Or did something program me to start this thread three billion years ago.:uhoh:
What We Still Don't Know: "Are We Real?" - YouTube

5th May 2013, 21:38
Fascinating. Thank you.

6th May 2013, 03:02
Not bad at all Drapes. Thanks.

6th May 2013, 07:44
Really fascinating. A bit scary, too - even though, as asked there: if we are simulations, does it matter?

I don't know anyone who's been in a virtual reality, like with a 3D avatar, but I've read it's sometimes more real for them than actual reality. So one really wonders.

tony draper
6th May 2013, 07:48
The idea has been around or a long time just that before puter simulation gave a better analog it was more along the lines of is life but a dream.

6th May 2013, 07:54
yeah, but considering vision and hearing are about my personal 'puter' in the synapses anyway - how do I know it's not distorted? :8

6th May 2013, 07:56
If we are simulated I suggest they might have a GOSUB error.

tony draper
6th May 2013, 07:57
Be a bit embarrassing to find out one's personality only takes up 1k of ram.:uhoh:

6th May 2013, 08:53
on the other hand, if all creatures big and small just exist, why does there need to be a special reason for the human ones? It seems to be split into reasonable and unreasonable anyway, so the rest is evolution?

6th May 2013, 09:00
I've an idea that Australian Aborigines believe that what we are living now is the "dream time" and when we die we wake up into the real world. Sophisticated idea for what were once believed to be savages!

6th May 2013, 09:55
I recall reading Carl Sagan on the subject but couldn't find the
particular book of his I read it from. A brief Google and I found
this (http://souljerky.com/articles/carl_sagan_on_hindu_cosmology.html)

6th May 2013, 11:19
Professional and successful muso friend summed it up nicely once. He said no matter how high an achievement you make it will end up as just a dream, but if you can play music you can always make yourself and those around you feel alive.

Earth is someone's pet, and we are all made out of stardust. If you do find the answer to the big question then that would just raise another.

Put that in your simulation and smoke it.

6th May 2013, 12:02
I thought everyone knew that we are all part of Deep Thought's experiment, to be destroyed by the Vogons just before it is completed.

6th May 2013, 12:28
yeah, but considering vision and hearing are about my personal 'puter' in the synapses anyway - how do I know it's not distorted?

Know that human understanding is inherently and perhaps necessarily distorted, always. Only the extent and the degree vary from moment to moment. Recalling "facts" is a bit like playing tennis -- sometimes the ball goes exactly where you want, and sometimes it does not... one only knows later for certain, if at all. Put the deviations from exactness down to noise, or creativity, or silliness... doesna really matter, most of the time, because unreliable thinking is what makes us human, makes us readily able to learn, and ultimately makes us interesting to ourselves and to the other creatures that choose to view us as other than dinner. The designed-in unreliability of thinking in advanced mammals creates or causes much of the diversity of individuals that gives us survival options as a genus, and sustains the memes we nurture in our personal guidance systems as ideas, culture, philosophy, curiosity, and silliness. Without these noise options -- and the capability to remember them evolved as nutrient-enriched response to the success of the strategy -- we would just be another batch of curiously peering meer-cats, or lurking lemurs, as some here seem perhaps to slightly resemble.

Treasure the phrase "non-deterministic". That is our franchise, and we're looking at a tough struggle, in time-forward, to nurture it and maybe just to hold on to it.

"Watts-per Gigameme" is likely the key discriminator in the intuitively foreseeable Olympics for odds-going-forward in our objectively forseeable future. Don't advertise that, tho, because the competition is actively watching. If the competition bests that, irrationality is quite possibly our only path to ultimate evolution and survival.

7th May 2013, 10:20
Prospero may have had it right!

"Our revels now are ended. These our actors,
As I foretold you, were all spirits, and
Are melted into air, into thin air:
And like the baseless fabric of this vision,
The cloud-capp'd tow'rs, the gorgeous palaces,
The solemn temples, the great globe itself,
Yea, all which it inherit, shall dissolve,
And, like this insubstantial pageant faded,
Leave not a rack behind. We are such stuff
As dreams are made on; and our little life
Is rounded with a sleep."


Ancient Observer
7th May 2013, 10:32
They are planning to build the intergalactic motorway, which requires Earth to be either destroyed or moved, as soon as possible after the current Stones concerts are finished.

The Vogons rather like the Stones.

7th May 2013, 10:38
The Vogons rather like the Stones.

But the Stones are still much better at music than the Vogons were/are at poetry...

Still the Vogons were not the worst....

"“Vogon poetry is of course, the third worst in the universe.

The second worst is that of the Azgoths of Kria. During a recitation by their poet master Grunthos the Flatulent of his poem "Ode to a Small Lump of Green Putty I Found in My Armpit One Midsummer Morning" four of his audience died of internal haemorrhaging and the president of the Mid-Galactic Arts Nobbling Council survived by gnawing one of his own legs off. Grunthos was reported to have been "disappointed" by the poem's reception, and was about to embark on a reading of his 12-book epic entitled "My Favourite Bathtime Gurgles" when his own major intestine, in a desperate attempt to save humanity, leapt straight up through his neck and throttled his brain.

The very worst poetry of all perished along with its creator, Paul Neil Milne Johnstone of Redbridge, in the destruction of the planet Earth. Vogon poetry is mild by comparison.”

RIP Douglas Adams...


7th May 2013, 14:53
Continuing with my personal speciality, did you realise that breasts are man made?
Large mammaries are not required for the production of milk, consider monkeys and even ladies with very small breasts, all are capable of producing enough milk to sustain an infant.
However, us men like big tits, so under the Darwin theory ladies with bigger busts stand a better chance of producing offspring. Over time women have evolved with big tits, not because they are needed for the production of milk but simple because us men like them. Q.E.D. Tits are man made.


7th May 2013, 15:05
Continuing the HGTTG theme, if you had deposited one penny in the Intergalactic bank at the beginning of time, compound interest would mean that you would now have enough in your account to buy a ticket to the latest Rolling Stones concert.

Possibly :(

7th May 2013, 16:02
Too hard for me. I don't think I want to be a silicon being.

7th May 2013, 16:50
However, us men like big tits

Speak for yourself, Sunshine. I much prefer smaller ones of a nice shape and, going by the ratings on porn sites, so do lots of others.