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Dushan
3rd May 2013, 23:12
Ok, so here goes. This is a thread dedicated to Canadian politics. Federal, provincial, municipal. Hell, even condominium living politics.

Fire away, fellow Canadians, all others are welcome as well.



Let's start with Ontario Liberal budget that is so orange I keep thinking Bob Rae is back. One more attempt to fleece the taxpayers of Ontario to save a Liberal government. The bums need to be thrown out on their ear. The sad part is Whodak is nowhere to be seen or heard.

Milo Minderbinder
3rd May 2013, 23:26
this knows more than I do about Canadian politics


http://www.gifs.net/Animation11/Animals/Other_Rodents/Beaver_eats.gif

Cacophonix
3rd May 2013, 23:26
My gosh, the immigrant taking heed of the country that gives him succour!

Caco

Dushan
3rd May 2013, 23:41
I've lived in Canada for 2/3rds of my life. I see it and treat it as nothing less than my one and only country. No hyphens in my description.

But that doesn't mean that I cannot admire our one and only neighbour to the South and wish for some things that they have and we don't. I fight hard to prevent the erosion of my Country

Cacophonix
3rd May 2013, 23:46
I've lived in Canada for 2/3rds of my life. I see it and treat it as nothing less than my one and only country. No hyphens in my description.


Dushan you are either a Canadian or an American! You can't have it both ways...

Either way (despite my politics) I would fight for your right to boogie.


Caco

KAG
3rd May 2013, 23:53
Canada is a bit like Europe, the French part being superior with aviation industry (Bombardier...) and life style but a bit too relaxed with finance. ;)



The Postman is so stubborn self centered and arrogant that if he were French he would still defend this third world country with the lowest life expectancy in the world.

fltlt
3rd May 2013, 23:56
Peter Lougheed, Pierre Trudeau (and his wife of course) Quebecois and Je Me Souvien. All the silliness of English/French signposts on Federal land. The two separatist movements, Quebec in the east, Alberta and BC in the west, Crowsnest Rate, DRES, Winnipeg, memories.

Cacophonix
3rd May 2013, 23:57
Air Transat flied the bus

And some of them are good glider pilots buddy! ;)

Caco

Dushan
3rd May 2013, 23:58
KAG, the French, especially in Canada, and "superior" do not fit in a same sentence.

fltlt
4th May 2013, 00:01
The antics of Stubb Ross and Time Air, oh the stories.

KAG
4th May 2013, 00:03
Dushan: good idea this thread.

Every topics are here to build a nice beaver wheel: Dual language, French bashing, dependance on the big brother USA, oil in rich Alberta with huge pollution desaster, huge country with incredible landscapes, one of the best aviation in the world and great people.
I lived in Canada, have friends there and regularly come back. I really appreciate this country.


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Edited (yes I admit but only because I have no other choice :E ):
Caco Dushan fltlt and others: I am touching the sensitives political issues on purpose, being a beaver wheel :)
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If The Postman considers himself as a pilot, that's only because he has a Canadian pilot licence and Canadian aviation experience.

Cacophonix
4th May 2013, 00:08
KAG, f~ck em! ;)

Caco

Cacophonix
4th May 2013, 00:11
Bachman Turner Overdrive You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet Lyrics - YouTube

Caco

KAG
4th May 2013, 00:29
Caco: I prefer Quebec city, even if Montréal might be more interesting for you, Montréal being the Canadian aviation industry capital.


http://fr.ortoped.ca/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/quebec-city-5.jpg



The Postman got lost in Maine (that is Canadian like everybody knows ;) ) and met Stephen King!!!

Cacophonix
4th May 2013, 00:33
even if Montréal might be more interesting for you

Tis indeed sir but I salute Bombardier and million De Havilland's! ;)

Caco

Matari
4th May 2013, 00:43
Oil-rich Alberta with a huge pollution disaster? What craque pipe are you fuming?

KAG
4th May 2013, 00:55
Matari: the same as usual, why?


Yes The Postman takes drug, but only the morning and evening.

Matari
4th May 2013, 01:02
Alberta has a huge pollution disaster? Not in the heavily regulated tar sands, mon cher. Messy, complex, and intensive, yes. But huge disaster? Hah! Everything is relative I suppose, but how would you characterize China's pollution problems? Very huge?

ehwatezedoing
4th May 2013, 01:05
Oil-rich Alberta with a huge pollution disaster? What craque pipe are you fuming?
I think KAG is referring to this:Athabasca oil sands (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Athabasca_oil_sands)
Impressive of ugliness when you overfly it!

Here is a vague idea via Google Earth.
Zoom in and out, check the pictures too.
56°58'31.67"N
111°28'52.65"W

Dushan
4th May 2013, 01:07
Oil-rich Alberta with a huge pollution disaster? What craque pipe are you fuming?


KAG is being provocative on purpose. With any luck Bumster with sign the pipeline deal, we'll bypass the tree-hugging greenies and the oil will be flowing to the refineries in your back yard. Win-win for everyone. As for pollution perhaps KAG should look at China and see how they deal with it.

The only bad (sad) thing about Alberta is that far too many Quebecers are moving that way and starting to spoil le paysage, politically.

Airborne Aircrew
4th May 2013, 01:10
Ahh, yes, Canukistan... The cosmopolitan country to the south of me... A wonderful place... :ok:

Dushan
4th May 2013, 01:12
AA, I see what you did there.

KAG
4th May 2013, 01:12
Matari: Everything is relative I suppose
I guess. I should choose my word carefully when speaking about pollution I guess. There is for sure a variety of intensity when it comes to pollution.
Even if I am not fond of the relative theory (in moral culture and other), there is for sure a gradient.

But Alberta oil sand pollution is heaven on earth if you compare it to China pollution. I never fail to mention the Chinese pollution when I have a chance though. Anyway why do we have to speak about China?

Being a beaver wheel, I think we can mention the issues, we are all adults we can take it. Right?


If The Postman has 3 air purifiers with active carbon and HEPA filter, plus a small forest in his living room, that's perhaps because there is a reason...

11Fan
4th May 2013, 01:15
But that doesn't mean that I cannot admire our one and only neighbour to the South

But isn't living in Canada like living in the apartment above the really cool nightclub?

Dushan
4th May 2013, 01:19
Yes, and above the gun store, but I have to go through bureaucratic maze before I can go in and com out with a purchase. But it's changing, slowly, but it is changing.

Then of course there are AA and BenThere just one floor above.

Cacophonix
4th May 2013, 01:21
But isn't living in Canada like living in the apartment above the really cool nightclub?

Canada is far cooler than those other folks. Hell, if they squat they shit all over them at every level.


Neil Young - Carmichael ( Greendale) - YouTube

Caco

Dushan
4th May 2013, 01:23
An just if you thought that we didn't have any empty suits...

This is who the Liberals think will save them

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Cacophonix
4th May 2013, 01:33
**** the beaver...

The Snow Walker (2003) - YouTube

Caco

KAG
4th May 2013, 01:36
Dushan: you just started the thread, and already 2 pages... This thread was needed apparently...

ehwatezedoing: happy to read you again. What's going on with the survey flying? Still having a great time?


If The Postman were a country, he wouldn't be posting comments right now.

pigboat
4th May 2013, 01:40
Actually I could possibly be convinced to vote for Boy Trudeau, but he would have to do following:

1...Get rid of the Canada Health Act, whereby my dog receives better and faster medical care than I do.

2...Scrap all marketing boards. Marketing boards are a legal form of extortion.

That's just a start, mind you. :p

The airplane in the background is the one used in Snow Walker. ;)

http://i100.photobucket.com/albums/m8/Siddley-Hawker/2Noorduyns.jpg

Dushan
4th May 2013, 01:43
You expect a Liberal to scrap anything that makes the government bigger? Has the snow melted in CYZV or are you still half frozen and not thinking clearly?

Matari
4th May 2013, 01:51
Serious question: Did Ezra Levant manage to put that Orwellian Human Rights Commission out of business? Incredible that the left in every country embraces those kinds of speech restrictions. Tolerant and open minded...more like fascists in Birkenstocks!

Cacophonix
4th May 2013, 01:55
Serious question: Did Ezra Levant manage to put that Orwellian Human Rights Commission out of business? Incredible that the left in every country embraces those kinds of speech restrictions. Tolerant and open minded...more like fascists in Birkenstocks!

One word Matari... Guantanamo...

Suck it up cupcake...

Hoo hah your way to freedom soldier...

Caco

Matari
4th May 2013, 01:56
Caco, do you know anything about the Ezra Levant case? I think even you would be on my side (the side of reason) on this one.

fitliker
4th May 2013, 01:57
Real Canadians use maple syrup in their coffee.
Once you try it you will too,
Almost as good as Baileys :ok:


Hey piggy ,them thunder chickens look small and usually make a bigger splash coming off the Howey bay.

Cacophonix
4th May 2013, 02:02
Caco, do you know anything about the Ezra Levant case? I think even you would be on my side (the side of reason) on this one.


I do and (heaven forfend) we might even be able to talk about Sacco and Vanzetti!

As you know Matari I would rather have you in a jury than many other men...

Caco

KAG
4th May 2013, 02:21
Nice pic Pigboat, but I really don't see the point to put 2 float airplanes on a giant mirror, really, what a waste of time and money when they could have put them simply on a lake for almost the same effect. It would have been less perfect, but so much easier to organize.


The Postman has no wheels, but he is not a float plane.

pigboat
4th May 2013, 02:31
The pic was taken in a mud puddle in a back yard in Whitehorse. :cool:

Snow's all gone Dushan but the winter was rough. :D

Dushan
4th May 2013, 03:01
Ezra and Mark Styne dodged the bullet with the HR commission, but the HR Nazis are still around and making everyone's life miserable.

We have a federal one and each province has its own.

KAG
4th May 2013, 03:12
Dushan: NazisSecond page, you are very reliable. Just on time.


Once, during one very dark night, The Postman wrote 49,000 posts.

pigboat
4th May 2013, 03:37
Here's one for page 3 then: Quebec language Nazis, aka Office de la langue Francaise.

Cacophonix
4th May 2013, 03:46
And to think I thought that Canadians were just a bunch of good De Havilland float boys...

When A Blind man cries Live - YouTube

Caco

obgraham
4th May 2013, 04:43
But....but....

Politically, now they have the silly idea that a guy should be elected leader of the country just because he is the son of a prior elected leader of the country.

Wait....we already did that in the US.

ExXB
4th May 2013, 10:02
Why so many 'yanks' and 'brits' posting on a Canadian Beaver Wheel thread?

Just wondering ...

Fox3WheresMyBanana
4th May 2013, 10:08
OK, here's a real politics question.
PEI has just switched to HST. Almost nobody wants it, but unlike BC we have no right of recall on our politicos. I've no doubt they'll be out on their ear next election, then we'll go back to GST/PST.
How does this make any sense? and What's your attitude to HST?

Airborne Aircrew
4th May 2013, 11:32
From the land they brought us Justin Bieber:-

RR5rIv4Qros

vulcanised
4th May 2013, 11:38
I have little knowledge of Canada, but I know what I like when I see this export

http://2.bp.********.com/_OyB3p0lPl54/TQuspslKd_I/AAAAAAAAjGo/L_0LXSoAkH8/s1600/rachel-mcadams-20060407-120469.jpg


But typically this ridiculous site has to fcuk about with it!

Dushan
4th May 2013, 12:01
OK, here's a real politics question.
PEI has just switched to HST. Almost nobody wants it, but unlike BC we have no right of recall on our politicos. I've no doubt they'll be out on their ear next election, then we'll go back to GST/PST.
How does this make any sense? and What's your attitude to HST?

HST should be the only tax. Raise it to 20% on everything and abolish all other taxes.

fitliker
4th May 2013, 13:53
They tried raising consumption taxes in Greece,Italy,Portugal,Spain and the people switched to a cash based shadow economy.
Until the Governments of the world figure out how to close the loopholes on Twenty Trillion dollars of offshore tax havens we are heading for DOOM :}

We are all DOOMED:ok:

obgraham
4th May 2013, 15:59
Why so many 'yanks' and 'brits' posting on a Canadian Beaver Wheel thread?Required by the rules of JB.

Fox3WheresMyBanana
4th May 2013, 17:39
Well, PEI is certainly switching to a cash shadow economy. Offer cash to anyone in the trades and you are immediately discounted around 10-12%, just less than the tax. You don't even have to ask (unlike 2 years ago). They aren't doing it to get your business, they are doing it because they all hate the tax. Government revenues will likely be 'inexplicably' lower this year.

brickhistory
4th May 2013, 17:44
One wonders if either your or my government will attempt to outlaw cash transactions completely, i.e., legal tender will be electrons and not folding and clinking medium?

Davaar
4th May 2013, 18:16
You can't have it both ways...


You think so, Caco? How do you reconcile that view with the federal party leader and MP who carried two passports: one Canadian and one French? Guess which party.

Davaar
4th May 2013, 18:19
From the land they brought us Justin Bieber:-


We have the other Justin ("The intellect") too.

God help us.

fitliker
4th May 2013, 20:05
Is it the same guy who offered to join the tories if they let him be leader ?

Dushan
4th May 2013, 23:57
We had Dion who couldn't figure out a simple question, asked in English, and involved a hypothetical situation.

Then we had university professor/TV personality who lived in UK and US for 30 years and claimed that he voted Democrat despite not having US citizenship.

Now we have a substitute drama teacher and summer camp councillor whose father was once famous.

We also have a leader of another party, as Davaar said, who has dual citizenship, and not by birth, but because he actively sought it.

They all wanted or want to be Prime Minister. In the end it doesn't work. What works is solid leadership and smarts. Go, Harper, go!

pigboat
5th May 2013, 00:39
Quote from Interim Bob, from back in the day:

"Pierre Trudeau makes Judas Iscariot look like a team player."

From the man himself writing in Cite Libre, two years before he became a Liberal MP, when Pearson allowed Bomarc Missiles at North Bay and La Macaza:

"I have not yet agreed to tramp on democracy. So for this reason I intend to vote NDP."
The editorial went on to state "...the Liberal Party does not have one man for whom principle means more than power."

Less than 5 years later he was Liberal PM. :p

Dushan
5th May 2013, 01:23
I wasn't here in those days. Was it NDP then, or Social Credit?

fitliker
5th May 2013, 02:34
Almost two pages and no beaver pictures yet ?

pigboat
5th May 2013, 04:06
The NDP was formed in 1961 from the Cooperative Commonwealth Federation and the Canadian Labour Congress. They recently removed Socialist from their charter, and I would suggest they should also remove New. At 52 they can no longer even be called the Adolescent Democratic Party, more like Middle Aged Democratic Party. ;)

Dushan
5th May 2013, 05:08
Will this do?

http://takemetoyourleader.ca/wp-content/uploads/2011/04/May1.jpg

Airborne Aircrew
5th May 2013, 11:45
Will this do?

Which is the beaver?

Dushan
5th May 2013, 13:47
Well I'll give you a hint. The one on the right is really concerned about the environment, lives in the wilderness and, builds his dams, and doesn't make
it his damn business to make others live that way.

The other one, appropriately on the left, calling herself the leader of the Green Party, not so much.

fitliker
5th May 2013, 14:03
You could eat the one on the right :}:}
At the Aboriginal Appreciation days they had all diffeerent kinds of critters cooked up for the non-natives and tourists to sample.They had Muskrat stew,Bear stew,Moose,Beaver, Goose,Walleye and Pickerelle and several other creatures that tasted a lot better than some of the fast food you can get at the Lakeview.
I started to laugh when i realized that i could be in Kentucky or Alabama and that these folks could be the long lost kin folk of the Hill Billies from the south.The similarities were astounding.
The " homes" where these critter munching people dwell in the north or south all have at least one recreational vehicle on blocks in what passes for a front yard.They will eat anything that crawls,flies or swims or anything else they can drag out of the swamp or muskeg.The tooth count was about the same. Although obvious Incest was never spoken about.They make their own alcohol beverages.Although moonshine is far superior to homebrew ketchup and pepsi beer.The homebrew beer will never win any awards and at fifty bucks a gallon.I will pass on the vomit flavoured beer.
But the number one reason that they could be confused for Southern Hill Billies is how nice and friendly they are.
I was served beaver stew by an old woman whose sister was called little beaver.I did not know them well enough to ask the obvious question about how she prepared her beaver and what was the special ingredient that made her beaver taste so good :}

Dushan
5th May 2013, 20:59
One wheel Beaver landing

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Polikarpov
5th May 2013, 21:09
Back to politics (if, indeed, there were any to start with!), BC provincial elections coming up on May 14, and the first I am eligible to vote in as a new passport holder.

Apparently, I'm about to witness another stint in charge for the NDP, who appear to have missed the comfy left-liberal consensus much of the rest of the world has been laboring under by about a decade.

Lucky me!

Dushan
6th May 2013, 02:45
Don't worry, Polikarpov, NDP will very quickly catch up to the standards of Greece and Portugal.

fitliker
6th May 2013, 05:06
Which party established arbitary decrees through a centralization of power in the PMO office ?

Which party was the first to ignore and refuse to answer ALL questions in Parliament during question time ?

Which party silenced their backbenchers and restricted debate in Parliament ?

Which party appointed Judges that ignored promulgated laws and made rulings using Absolute arbitary power with complete indifference to the principles of governance by the institution of Parliament,and Parliamentary procedures by making Laws from the bench.A bench that is not subject to any elections ,consultation or consent from those who are subjected to the benches opinions and will,through the laws written by unelected people ?

Would you know a Facist if one bit you on the arse ?

Airborne Aircrew
6th May 2013, 12:41
Which party established arbitary decrees through a centralization of power in the PMO office ?

Which party was the first to ignore and refuse to answer ALL questions in Parliament during question time ?

Which party silenced their backbenchers and restricted debate in Parliament ?

Which party appointed Judges that ignored promulgated laws and made rulings using Absolute arbitary power with complete indifference to the principles of governance by the institution of Parliament,and Parliamentary procedures by making Laws from the bench.A bench that is not subject to any elections ,consultation or consent from those who are subjected to the benches opinions and will,through the laws written by unelected people ?Well... Come on... Which party was it... The suspense is killing me... :}

BenThere
6th May 2013, 12:52
Sounds like the Greens to me.

Dak Man
6th May 2013, 13:04
Ontario budget - I find it hard to fathom why commuters who do the right thing and car pool are to be penalised by way of the proposed HWY401 HOV toll lane.

Wouldn't it make more sense to toll single occupancy and "reward" car pooling via a free HOV lane.

Dushan
6th May 2013, 13:32
Dak Man, you'll seldom see me defend anything Liberals do, but I think they are doing exactly what you are proposing. Multi PAX cars will be able to use the HOV lanes as they do now. if you want to use it without people in the car you will have to pay.

How they propose to enforce it is another matter. Sticker on the windshield? I still think that it's stupid, because HOV lanes are not all the ay from A to B. you have to eventually merge into regular traffic. That merge may be worse than being in the proper lane from the start. Think SB 400 into DVP.

Dushan
6th May 2013, 13:33
Would you know a Facist if one bit you on the arse ?

Does this count for Godwin?

Dak Man
6th May 2013, 13:43
Hi Dush, that's not how it was "sold" on local media but thanks anyway for the clarification, makes more sense now.

I car pool up and down the 401 to Pearson, it's possibly the worst commute I have ever had the dis-pleasure of making, particularly after having spent 10 years in Germany where lane discipline is properly practiced and enforced.

Without wanting to offend, I thought that the Belgians and Dutch were bad drivers, but those in and around the environs of Toronto are by far the most obnoxious, dis-courteous, ill-disciplined, dangerous and beligerent examples I have ever come across, and 99% of the 401 commute traffic is single occupancy.

Dushan
6th May 2013, 14:43
No offense, Dak Man, I agree with you 100%. Lane discipline is disgusting, but what is even worse, it think, is a total ignorance as to what it means that you are flashing your high beams at the guy doing 90 km/h in the left lane. They never look in their rear view mirror nor are they aware of what is happening around them.

Meanwhile the cops are lurking at intersections making the world safe by giving you a ticket when you glance at your BlackBerry while waiting for the light to turn green.

BenThere
6th May 2013, 16:08
but those in and around the environs of Toronto are by far the most obnoxious, dis-courteous, ill-disciplined, dangerous and beligerent examples I have ever come across

Clearly, you've never had to drive in Naples, Italy.

Solid Rust Twotter
6th May 2013, 16:41
...I thought that the Belgians and Dutch were bad drivers, but those in and around the environs of Toronto are by far the most obnoxious, dis-courteous, ill-disciplined, dangerous and beligerent examples I have ever come across...


You've been out of Africa too long, young Skywalker. You forget the bellthronkery that is JNB.

Fox3WheresMyBanana
6th May 2013, 16:41
or Greece!

Dak Man
6th May 2013, 16:46
LOL SRT, too true, within hours of landing in ORT for the 2009 Lions we were almost wiped out when a lane control concrete barrier fell off the truck in front of us and hit our van. was quite a sphincter clutching moment, but (there's always a but) one expects it on such heathen places as the N1, Canadia is supposed to be civilised.......

Dushan
6th May 2013, 18:04
Canadia is supposed to be civilised.......

Have you seen who's driving? Don't even try to go out on a first snow fall of the year. Thousands of people who have never seen snow, much less driven in it, take to the highways pretending it is a warm sunny day, driving conditions wise.

fitliker
6th May 2013, 22:49
Nope,not meant as a Godwin.

But it is ironic whilst reasearching the Godwin theories about how long it takes for certain references to raise their heads, i did find an interesting warning from a short little bald Italian dictator.
Something about being the only centrist party free from the excess of the right and the destructive nature of the left.Almost as funny as hearing a UBC prof talking about the need for a final solution to certain issues.
Not even as funny as when Thatcher paraphased Lenin.
Lenin said "those who do not work,will not eat"
Thatcher said "those who do not contribute to society should not benefit from it"


One more clue about the party:
It is the same party that abrogated its duties and responsibilities as an elected legislative body representing the people by transfering the powers of making laws to an elitest non-accountable body.
Not quite as entertaining, as King Lear's attempt to devolve power to others while retaining the glory of power.
But they did create rather a lot of billable hours for their trade in the process.Further distancing the consent and consultation process of democracy.

Dushan
6th May 2013, 22:59
fitliker, I seem to have read all this on Rabble. Is your handle there the same?

pigboat
6th May 2013, 23:28
Is that the party the head of which said, 'backbench MP are nobodies 50 yards from Parliament Hill.' :p

Dushan
7th May 2013, 00:19
Are we going to start with quotes from Le Pere CYYL?

On lighter note, les fils has made a new video telling us how he collected millions in donations since his anoitation. The truth is that the money they claim to collected is the money collected by his campaign, over the last year, that now goes into party coffers. Sad little git filmed it with an iPhone so it looks "hip" and Facebbok worthy.

Pathetic.

fitliker
7th May 2013, 01:09
Never heard of rabble before,but i will give it a look.

Dushan
8th May 2013, 02:32
The Star (http://read.thestar.com/#!/article/518900d693e8e43cdc0d8c78-power-plant-cancellations-dalton-mcguinty-says-he-didn-t-know-cost-would-hit-585m)

How convenient.

Polikarpov
15th May 2013, 05:31
Despite pollsters predicting a landslide for the lefties of the NDP, the opposite happened tonight with the incumbent BC Liberals actually increasing their majority.

I guess it's much easier to SAY you're going to vote socialist than actually bringing yourself to do so.

Phew, I don't have to emigrate to Alberta after all!

Cacophonix
15th May 2013, 07:45
You do have to like Canada. Even the ultimate tedium of a political thread is known as a beaver wheel there!

Caco

Fox3WheresMyBanana
19th May 2013, 13:51
Duffy resigns from Caucus, Wright resigns as Chief of Staff. Duffy still refuses to resign from the Senate. The PM is going to have to sack him, isn't he?

innuendo
19th May 2013, 15:47
Too bad the old Rhinoceros party isn't around any more. One of their election promises was, if elected, they would immediately ask for a judicial recount.:D

Dushan
19th May 2013, 16:04
Sounds like Harper's plan to get rid of the Senate is starting to be implemented. The man is a genius. I feel bad for Nigel, though, but now that he'll be back in Toronto I'll see him more often. We are neighbors.

Davaar
19th May 2013, 16:21
The PM is going to have to sack him, isn't he?

Can he do that?

What exactly did the Senator do to merit sacking if that can be done by some authority or another?

Just to be clear, I do not know him or the answer to the last question.

owen meaney
20th May 2013, 00:57
It seems I may be a pseudo Canadian, my favourite artists are Leonard Cohen and Gordon Lightfoot

BenThere
20th May 2013, 01:49
Gordon Lightfoot. A cut above the everyday minstrel.

One of the few songs I never get tired of is Edmund Fitzgerald. It speaks to me.

North Shore
20th May 2013, 02:49
Sounds like Harper's plan to get rid of the Senate is starting to be implemented. The man is a genius. I feel bad for Nigel, though, but now that he'll be back in Toronto I'll see him more often. We are neighbors.

Oh, so there's method to the criminality, then! That makes it so much better. :ok: I just assumed that it was Conservatives displaying no sense of shame while bellying up to the trough:rolleyes:

pigboat
20th May 2013, 02:55
Ben check out his other shipwreck song, Ballad Of The Yarmouth Castle. Great song, it's on the tube. Has video of the burning cruise liner.

Davaar were you listening to Rex Murphy this pm? His first phone in caller got it right. Harper had better smarten up and clean house, or they will be toast in 2015. All of this stuff was totally unnecessary. As Murphy said a couple of nights ago on his rant, "Even dogs know where they live. Can we not expect a public official to know likewise?"

Dushan
20th May 2013, 03:27
Oh, so there's method to the criminality, then! That makes it so much better. :ok: I just assumed that it was Conservatives displaying no sense of shame while bellying up to the trough:rolleyes:


What criminality? Has anything been proven? We all know who, in Canadian politics, are the champions of bellying up to the though.

Fox3WheresMyBanana
20th May 2013, 09:23
Can he do that?

When has that stopped him?

I think Pigboat's right. The one thing Harper doesn't want is to lose power, and I think he's losing by keeping these more flagrant 'troughers' next to him. That's why Oda went.
I reckon some of these leaks are coming from within his own caucus, and that's what really worries him.
On the Island, the ruling Liberals are held in equal contempt at the mo, so who knows what will happen here?

V2-OMG!
22nd May 2013, 15:45
Nothing can beat the leftie Premiers of B.C. when it comes to the whacko factor. One fell off a cliff and was in a coma for two weeks. Many still regard that as his finest fourteen days of leadership.

Another one liked to run around with his rugby pants half-way down his fat little backside. You couldn't miss those flaming red jockey shorts if you tried. A beacon for the clueless.

Then there was the fast-cat ferry fiasco, thanks to Captain Glen Clark. The Titanic of political blunders - half a billion taxpayer dollars down the drain.

The upswing is that the fast-cat ferries and lefties have been shipped off into the haze....

http://pic80.picturetrail.com/VOL1942/12014112/21796710/406705041.jpg

To quote Allan Fotheringham, in Quebec, politics is a religion; in Ontario, a business; on the Prairies, a protest; in B.C., expensive entertainment.

galaxy flyer
23rd May 2013, 00:00
It seems the Mayor or Toronto is doing his best to keep up with the former mayor of Washington. What's next, hookers?

GF

Dushan
23rd May 2013, 00:09
If the video was in any way conclusive the Toronto Star would have gladly paid $200k to show it. I think there is a lot of smoke, but no fire.

pigboat
23rd May 2013, 03:53
Another one liked to run around with his rugby pants half-way down his fat little backside. You couldn't miss those flaming red jockey shorts if you tried. A beacon for the clueless.

Would that be the head of Barrett's privateers? :D

On an open mouth radio show this pm I opined that Ford should change his name to Marion Barry and the good champagne socialists of Toronto would re-elect him in a landslide. The moderator was not amused.

V2-OMG!
23rd May 2013, 04:12
Da man himself, pigboat.

I have been reading a book about those three years in power. "We're Here for a Good Time - Not a Long Time." :suspect:

fitliker
5th Aug 2013, 06:06
Evil plot to eradicate and make scarce Mosquitos and Black flies in North west Ontario discovered. A secret long lost recipe for mosquito's and black fly pie was discovered in Pickle Lake while some local pilots were looking at the lost belongings of an old Shaman. Written in an old dialect decoded by a pilot best known by his Indian name of 'many brews' the recipe could mean that the mosquito could become an endangered species by early next century.
The new all natural mosquito/black fly pie recipe has some serious health benefits. Foods using Mosquitos and Black flies are all natural ,organic, gluten free and have a higher keratin value than Rhino horn.

Viagra maker Pfzier are so concerned about the aphrodisiac value of the new food source they are sending hunters to help eradicate the long nosed mosquito .The longer the probiscious of the mosquito the higher the keratin content of the food made from it. The drug company was so worried that they have sent big game hunters into the area to eradicate the Mosquitos before the health food mosquito /black fly pie craze catches on.

This video shows the hunters at work Monty Python- Mosquito Hunting - YouTube


Bon Appetite

Fox3WheresMyBanana
22nd Oct 2013, 23:15
Mike Duffy claims Harper told him to repay expense money - Politics - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mike-duffy-claims-harper-told-him-to-repay-expense-money-1.2158507)

Does the little piggy not like his trough being taken away?

Will Mr Harper be "spending more time with his family"?

Erudite opinions requested.

Cacophonix
22nd Oct 2013, 23:20
Where I come from, you folks in Canada and Australia are as meaningless in world politics or culture or power as a bunch of black blokes shagging a kangaroo or whatever you blokes do...

We still love you though...

Caco

Dushan
22nd Oct 2013, 23:58
We love you too Caco. No, we are not important, and if we were, we'd apologies for being so.

BlankBox
23rd Oct 2013, 19:46
?I was ordered by the prime minister: Pay the money back,? Duffy tells senate | Toronto Star (http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2013/10/22/senate_scandal_duffy_brazeau_may_appear_at_suspension_debate .html)

and...

Harper refutes Duffy allegations in question period - Politics - CBC News (http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/harper-refutes-duffy-allegations-in-question-period-1.2186620)

and...

Wallin calls Senate suspension efforts an 'abuse of power' - The Globe and Mail (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/mulcair-says-control-freak-harper-must-have-been-part-of-duffy-affair/article15022729/)

and...


QP Live: Stephen Harper responds to explosive allegations - Capital Read, Need to know, Nick Taylor-Vaisey - Macleans.ca (http://www2.macleans.ca/2013/10/23/qp-live-stephen-harper-responds-to-duffys-explosive-accusations/)

and...

Pamela Wallin tells her side of Senate expenses scandal, denies wrongdoing (http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Harper+implicated+Senate+scandal+culture+corruption/9072405/story.html)

and...

Read Pamela Wallin?s statement to the Senate - The Globe and Mail (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/read-pamela-wallins-statement-to-the-senate/article15025254/)

and...

http://i.imagebanana.com/img/a9ulfr9x/395b3285b4b64c3a8352e93beae7a95f_MAC.jpg

and...

I'm frikken luvin' it...

http://i.imagebanana.com/img/b1xwmplh/tumblr_inline_mrwhqtavEn1qz4rgp.gif

pigboat
23rd Oct 2013, 20:53
What amazes me is all those senators who don't know where they live. Even dogs know where they live ffs.

Fox3WheresMyBanana
23rd Oct 2013, 21:12
I had the dubious honour of shaking hands* with Senator Duffy last year whilst he was, very briefly, in the province he allegedly represents. His 'arranger' was at pains to emphasise (3 times as I remember), before his arrival, that he needed to be gone again "as soon as possible". When someone politely asked where he had to be next, answer came there none (but an embarrassed look was evident).

*I was representing an organisation, therefore could not decline.

Fox3WheresMyBanana
6th Aug 2015, 21:52
..and, they're off!

Your initial predictions, points to watch for, and thoughts, please!

fitliker
7th Aug 2015, 01:34
I predict eleven weeks of boring.


Beige.

vulcanised
7th Aug 2015, 11:40
I heard a report that there is an investigation being held into historic abuse of Canadian Aborigines.

Didn't even know they existed.

rgbrock1
7th Aug 2015, 14:08
I heard a report that there is an investigation being held into historic abuse of Canadian Aborigines.

Didn't even know they existed.

I'm sure I'll be corrected by someone more knowledgeable about this, but I thought Canadian "Aborigines" is another word for Canadian "Indians"???

vulcanised
7th Aug 2015, 14:15
You may well be right. I was just using the name used by the BBC.

fltlt
7th Aug 2015, 14:38
You may well be right. I was just using the name used by the BBC.

Which of the many tribes would that apply to?
Would it include their American relations?
The oil money must not be enough nowadays.

Fox3WheresMyBanana
7th Aug 2015, 15:24
We use the terms First Nations, Inuit and Metis here. The First Nations are whom you mean by "Indians", the Inuit you might call "Eskimos", and the Metis are the mixed race descendants of the earliest Western Europeans (usually French trappers & First Nations women).

They do not necessarily split themselves into Canadian & American. The treaties generally accept that they remain their own people, and in some cases were granted freedom of movement across both borders, though in practice they have been denied this right in recent years. It's a bone of contention.

Here endeth the Anthropology lesson.

Legal Lesson. The Supreme Court of Canada recently (2013) agreed that the Government failed to deliver on its promise in 1870 of over 5,000 square kilometers of land for the Metis. The Metis are being very reasonable about it and, instead of legal proceedings for billions in compensation, are simply asking for agreements that will be stuck to in future. The PM has also formally apologized about the Residential Schools, which attempted to destroy First Nations culture through indoctrination. It's a long, slow process.

rgbrock1
7th Aug 2015, 15:54
Fox3:

Sounds like the indigenous people of Canada are getting the same short end of the shit stick as the indigenous people of, what is now, the U.S.

Fox3WheresMyBanana
7th Aug 2015, 15:57
I think your stick was quite a bit more pointy....

rgbrock1
7th Aug 2015, 16:08
I think your stick was quite a bit more pointy....

Undoubtedly. However, many native American tribes are doing quite well for themselves nowadays, owning just about every Casino in this country. Doesn't make up for a lot of things though.

meadowrun
7th Aug 2015, 19:19
"I heard a report that there is an investigation being held into historic abuse of Canadian Aborigines"


That would be the "neverending" one, like you folks chase after dead or has been celebrity alleged Pedos.


"The treaties generally accept that they remain their own people"


Supported almost entirely by the Canadian taxpayers who are obliged to prop up their non-existent economic base. The cash goes mainly to chiefs and their families pockets to ensure the people don't get out of the quagmire.


I, once again, look on the election and the leaders with dismay. I have a better plan for the country but it involves deleting all politicians, senators, and lawyers first.

spInY nORmAn
12th Aug 2015, 04:35
Screw all of these attack ads - this guy NAILS it! 10/10 for originality (and who doesn't want an MP with laser vision!)

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