R22 records

[g-mady]

What are the records held by the R22 helicopter...

Im thinking longest range, greatest distance (round the world?!), time in the air?

Please god don't let this thread descend into the usual PPRUNE riot :rolleyes:

MADY

Agreed: any and all posts wanting to make this a Robbie bash have been and will be deleted.

I'm over it, and so should you be.

SP

[helihub]

The FAI website is your source here, MADY. Start at their Rotorcraft (http://www.fai.org/record-rotorcraft) page, select subclass E-1b (max weight 500-1000kg) and click [search] button.

then you can ignore the "turbine" records - generally further down the list - and to my mind most of the "speed over recognised course" are just trumped up locations to suit the pilot (so I'm none too bothered by file number 15110 (http://www.fai.org/fai-record-file/?recordId=15110) where a Russian guy flies an R22 averaging 34.6kmh between Moscow and Yakutsk).

Lots of them are held by R44s in this category, but these two file numbers look likely to become records for R22s

16767 (http://www.fai.org/fai-record-file/?recordId=16767) - Altitude with 100 kg payload - 4029m - (claim received. not yet ratified)

16744 (http://www.fai.org/fai-record-file/?recordId=16744) - distance without landing - 1232km - (file under review)

[rotorfan]

distance without landing - 1232km - (file under review)

Though I fly in NM, not km, that immediately struck me as a fair distance in an R22. On my abacus I calculate 665 NM. Rather stiff tailwind, eh? Or, extra fuel tanks? Is that permissible for this record? The linked page didn't say if it was a standard or modded R22.

[g-mady]

Does anyone know of any country hopping records? I imagine someone must have travelled a large distance?
I know of people travelling to Spain from the UK but what about Africa or Asia?

MADY

[Dynamic Roller]

Or, extra fuel tanks? Is that permissible for this record? The linked page didn't say if it was a standard or modded R22.

I see a bit more that's unclear. For example, the record is for "distance without landing". Does that exclude aerial refueling? What about refueling while hovering IGE?
Same question would apply to all range/endurance related records.

DR

[staticsource]

Altitude 21000 ish feet
Speed 146kts

Both flown by a chap called Wayne (can't remember his second name)
:ok:

[g-mady]

21k ft!!!! Cant imagine what that would have been like! The cold for one!

MADY

[rotorfan]

21000??!! How did it get there, updraft in a CB? That would explain a good tailwind, as the Vne must be quite low. 21000??!! Really? That's not sinking into my brain very well. Musta been the turbocharged R22 model. :ok:

[helihub]

Staticsource.... it was Wayne Mulgrew you are thinking of

See http://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/348942-whats-highest-altitude-helo-has-flown.html

I think Mulgrew also flew an R22 for a record with the skids removed

Edit for spelling...

[Gordy]

Yep, no skids, Wayne was a friend of mine.

For the speed and altitude records he flew them both with the skids removed. He also removed the battery to reduce weight, along with going on a major diet.

For the speed attempt he was relying on the low fuel light, (he planned the fuel down to the ounce), and was hovering while the skids were re-attached, turns out the bulb had burned out and he landed with less than a minute of fuel in the tank.

Wayne was a larger than life character, I drank many a beer with him during which he told many stories of his "derring do"..... sadly he is no longer with us.

[staticsource]

Yep that's the chap, never met him but heard a bit about him!! Apparently he had a cradle where he used to land the 22 in when the skids were off.

Good times!

Ss

[Vertical Freedom]

Hey staticsource (http://www.pprune.org/members/135621-staticsource)

Common sense & airmanship would tell You that @ 21,000' You will loose about 21" of MAP :yuk: hardly think that any non-turbo piston could even venture so close to the God's :}

Land Happy Always :ok:

[staticsource]

VF

Thanks for clearing that point up, I know I was just estimating but should have put the actual height in of 19480ft. Sorry for any confusion!:rolleyes:

Cheers

Ss

[Vertical Freedom]

SS

That's still 19.5" of MAP lost hmmmm what's left 4-5" left total to pull maybe ..... that won't get you far in a climb :oh:

Yikes :8

Happy Landings :ok:

[staticsource]

Agree VF but derated engine so you can climb to around 5k feet before you hit full throttle, but of course, depends on the DA:ok:

Also the 22 did go on quite a major diet!