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Bob Viking
20th Mar 2013, 16:02
As I prepared for take off in my Hawk (115) yesterday I ran through my take off emergencies brief. As is often the case I subconciously launched into the Jaguar abort drill of 'idle, hook, chute'. It's been nearly six years since I last flew the beast and I have many more Hawk hours now than I had Jaguar so why does it persist?
That got me to thinking, what other long lost drills can people not seem to shake?
Does John Farley find himself launching into early Harrier drills (something along the lines of 'spectacles, testicles, wallet and watch I would imagine!) whilst driving along the M1. Does BEagle bore his wife with his Vulcan pre-landing checks?
This is clearly a chance for the old and bold to reminisce about days gone by on their old aircraft types but I was just curious if it was just me that suffers from this affliction?
For all those Jaguar guys out there who can remember what this was used for 'TK, THT, CLR'?! Yet another drill that my brain won't shake!
BV:O

glad rag
20th Mar 2013, 16:06
Cock, hook, look.

scarecrow450
20th Mar 2013, 16:20
Blot, bang, rub !

Wander00
20th Mar 2013, 16:25
STUPRE - for the Gnat afficionados

SASless
20th Mar 2013, 16:30
OH....Cockpit Drills!

I immediately thought back to the Inch and a Half Electric Drill that had more Torque than a CH-53 and would wind me up and nearly beat me to death every time the Drill Bit seized in a piece of heavy iron. :uhoh:

oldbeefer
20th Mar 2013, 16:35
My Friend Fred Has Hairy Balls still rings a bell from basic Chipmunt training in the 60s.

rotormonkey
20th Mar 2013, 16:38
Bin
The
Motor
It's
F:mad::mad:ked

Bulldog engine s/d

HEDP
20th Mar 2013, 16:43
Mixture, fuel and flaps. Harness, hood and brakes.

ACW599
20th Mar 2013, 16:48
I doubt anyone of my generation will ever forget "Fuel on, brakes on, throttle closed, switches off".

Trim Stab
20th Mar 2013, 16:52
When doing descent briefings I still can't point at anything on a map with my finger (minimum 25 press ups in the nearest puddle). It can sometimes be difficult to find a blade of grass or twig in a cockpit at FL430.

Bob Viking
20th Mar 2013, 17:09
Good to know it's not just me.
Please feel free to explain your chosen drill so it makes more sense to others! As much as Fred will be pleased for us all to know about the overly hirsute nature of his man globes, what the hell does it actually mean?!
BV:confused:

Genstabler
20th Mar 2013, 17:11
Right and left, two clicks, LAY!

smujsmith
20th Mar 2013, 17:12
CBSIFTCB
(Controls, Ballast, Straps, Instruments, Flaps, Trim, Canopy and Brakes)
Gliding pre take off

WULF
(Water ballast, Undercarriage, Loose articles and Flaps)
Gliding pre landing

From RAFGSA club 1990's, I will never forget it.

Smudge

Tinribs
20th Mar 2013, 17:18
During a Canberra conversion Clive Hall (great instructor) rammed home to me "if you are losing it on an engine failure the aircraft MUST be landed, preferably on the runway, if possible with the gear down.

He certainly saved my life

When the moment came, leconfield 1974, and the world was going sideways I remembered.

Two out of three isn't bad

Lancman
20th Mar 2013, 17:25
B,
U,
M,
P,
F.

Fox3WheresMyBanana
20th Mar 2013, 17:26
I don't remember many of the words, but my hands can wander round the cockpit arranging the switches in the familiar pleasing-and-eye-catching manner. It's like they aren't a part of me - well weird.

NutLoose
20th Mar 2013, 17:31
I have no live rounds, empty cases or misfires in my possession Sgt.

Suprised no one has mentioned GAS! GAS! GAS!


I don't remember many of the words, but my hands can wander round the cockpit arranging the switches in the familiar pleasing-and-eye-catching manner. It's like they aren't a part of me - well weird.


Odd that, I found myself at a museum sitting in the cockpit of a Wessex and I automatically did that without thinking about it.

Megaton
20th Mar 2013, 17:41
I am the custodian of the no-lone zone.......(nearly 25 years ago :eek: )

EyesFront
20th Mar 2013, 17:42
Even the humble T21 had one back in the '60s- CISTRS

Controls - waggle about and check they move the right flappy bits in the right direction
Instruments (there were only three) - check altitude reads zero
Straps - done up
Trim - check weight of occupants to see if ballast was required
Release - check yellow wooden knob works the release
Spoilers - check red knob moves them up and down - not that they actually did anything

Two's in
20th Mar 2013, 17:45
I don't remember many of the words, but my hands can wander round the cockpit arranging the switches in the familiar pleasing-and-eye-catching manner. It's like they aren't a part of me - well weird.

In a similar vein I once found myself (on the ground) having changed the drive configuration on a helicopter, a procedure that involved moving throttles and switches with much dexterity and panache, with no conscious recollection of having done it! Obviously this was before the days of CRM where we trained the guy in the other seat to shout "Don't touch that you knob! We're still in the air".

CoffmanStarter
20th Mar 2013, 17:46
Fuel on, Brakes on, Throttle closed, Switches off ... clear to prime ... Chipmunkery as BEagle calls it ...

Still runs through my mind when I fire up the lawn mower :uhoh:

BEagle
20th Mar 2013, 17:48
STUPRECCC and CUBSTUNT (Gnat hyd fail and AC/DC fail drills)

BUFUP (Hunter after t/o checks)

My Charming Friend Fiona Has Huge Boobs (Chipmunk pre-landing checks)

My - Mixture Fully Rich
Charming - Carb Air Hot (should be wire-locked....)
Friend - Fuel ON and sufficient
Fiona - Flaps as req'd
Has - Harness tight and locked
Huge - Hood locked
Boobs - Brakes fully OFF

Bengo
20th Mar 2013, 17:59
Beagle:

Charming - Carb Air Hot (should be wire-locked....)

Not in a Navy Chippie! Even so it was only My Friend Fred etc. and Mixture included Carb air.


N

CoffmanStarter
20th Mar 2013, 18:34
The wire was quite flimsy ...

Something to do with limiting CHT I believe ...

Danny42C
20th Mar 2013, 18:57
Can't believe it got to Lancman (#15) before:

B rakes
U cart
M ixture
P itch
F uel
F laps
G ills
(those funny things that used to stick out round the radial engines which had pistons going up and down in them - remember ?)

D.

Duplo
20th Mar 2013, 19:05
One for the tutor is Paris Hilton:

Hot, idle, rich, bit#h.. Followed by a FAFF...

John Farley
20th Mar 2013, 19:52
‘Take off vital actions’

What a misnomer. Great strings of stuff and NONE of it vital to the takeoff. I used to be accused of shouting TAFFIOH and opening the throttle. Some truth in it although I did check no warning captions were lit.

As to the M1 what a nightmare that is compared to flying.

smujsmith
20th Mar 2013, 20:00
Coffman starter

Response to your #21

Breech in, engine primed, cowling secure and rear switches on (Sir) ?

Smudge

CoffmanStarter
20th Mar 2013, 20:04
Smudge :ok: Best regards Coff ...

MG
20th Mar 2013, 20:06
It's been 21 years since I heard 'T dot, E dot, 4 whites and a green' and I wasn't even doing it, just observing from the back.

Rigga
20th Mar 2013, 20:06
Polished shoes
and
I still put my thumbs over the top of "Handles" - including Bench Press Bars.

newt
20th Mar 2013, 20:51
T
T
M
F
F
G
and
G
P
H

Any ideas?:ok:

Al R
20th Mar 2013, 20:53
Every dame my hard di.. demeanour (GPMG stoppages cured by the IA drill)

Aim, factors, courses, plan (combat appreciation in contact)

Mag to Grid get rid, Grid to Mag, add (navigation)

Ground, gradient, course, obstacles, escape-route (cross country tac driving)

ShyTorque
20th Mar 2013, 20:55
Old drills that you just can't forget.

My first Black and Decker was a cracker.

longer ron
20th Mar 2013, 20:58
Sorry for a little thread drift but this...

Breech in, engine primed, cowling secure and rear switches on (Sir) ?

Reminded me of a post - xmas day at Abingdon many years ago,very cold weather...chippies not been started for a while and were being a little reluctant to fire up.
One of our VRT gentlemen told his groundcrew that they were clear to prime (even though he had just started his walkround:cool:) so young eddie says 'ok' - he primes and swings the prop and hey presto the dripsy chunks into life and continues to idle :cool: even with both mags off LOL.
Eddie is just staring at the prop spinning - our pilot is stood holding on to the rudder just gawping :)
A quick thinking sumpy SAC jumps up and pulls the fuel cut off !!
What a great start to the new year...I had a great laugh :ok:

Airborne Aircrew
20th Mar 2013, 21:10
Here's silliness for you then...

When I was 15 or 16 I read the book The Big Show by Pierre Closterman DFC etc. etc. etc.who flew Spitfires and Typhoons in WWII.

One of his pre-takeoff checks was BTFCPPUR. I think it was:-

Brakes, Trim, Flaps, C*, Pressure, Pneumatics, Undercarriage, Rudder...

But it was 40 years ago and I was only reading a book... :8

* Struggling on this one... Choke?

TorqueOfTheDevil
20th Mar 2013, 21:13
In a similar vein I once found myself (on the ground) having changed the
drive configuration on a helicopter, a procedure that involved moving throttles
and switches with much dexterity and panache


'Both engines running, two Flight Idle stops out, 2 leads 1, 2 leads 1, 2 leads 1, 2 leads 1, into Acc Drive'...holds breath waiting for the crunch...

Could somebody confirm if my recollection of the Hawk T1 pre-landers is correct? It's been 13 years since the staff of 208 noticed I was inept and got rid (some would say it should have been at least 13 and a half years but there you go!), but I seem to recall:

Speed below 200
Airbrake in, MI black
Gear down, button fully in
Fuel for 150, 130, 117 (or so)
Mid flap
I'm secure, you're secure,
Flap has travelled, 3 greens

My speed has been below 200 ever since;)

BEagle
20th Mar 2013, 21:21
newt - Chipmunk pre take-off checks?

For many a/c, the commonly used 'airbrake in' before 'gear down' must be a legacy of the Meteor T7 'phantom dive' era, surely?

ACW599
20th Mar 2013, 21:33
Trim -- two divisions nose-down
Throttle -- friction nut adjusted
Mixture -- fully rich, carb air hot
Fuel -- on and gated, contents sufficient
Flaps -- as required
Gyros -- horizon erect, DI synchronised
Gauges -- indications normal
Pressure-head heater -- as required
Harness -- tight and locked
Hood -- closed and locked.

Chipmunk pre-take-off-checks :ok:

mcdhu
20th Mar 2013, 21:44
Trailing Aerial........In, Ratchet Selected Beads Clamped

One item of the Varsity T1 Pre Landing Checks

Can't remember anything else - well it was 44 years ago!!

mcdhu

Idle Reverse
20th Mar 2013, 21:46
The STUPRECC and CUBSTUNT will probably stay with me forever from the halcyon days at Valley but the very best, and very SIMPLEST drill has to be the shutdown checks in the beautiful and graceful DC3.

FO-MO-FO

Fuel OFF
Mags OFF

and then

F##K OFF !

Just sooooooooooo Sweet ! :ok:

fantom
20th Mar 2013, 21:46
T
T
M
F
F
G
and
G
P
H

Any ideas?http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/thumbs.gif


Not quite right.

Terry Thomas makes French fillies go gay holding his pri*k.

Chipmunk.

Fox3WheresMyBanana
20th Mar 2013, 21:50
Tiger Moth

Altimeter SET
Fuel ON
Hatch CLOSED

and that's it!

CoffmanStarter
20th Mar 2013, 21:53
Newt, BEagle ... add "Taxi Lamp On" for anti-collision purposes ... for Chipmunk pre-takeoff checks ... I think it was sequenced on the FRC's just after Pressure Head Heater IIRC ...

Flugplatz
20th Mar 2013, 21:56
Dash, down, crawl, cover, sights, observe, fire.

Reaction to effective enemy fire. Not very aeronautical I know...

Al R
20th Mar 2013, 22:00
.. observe, sights?

:8

fantom
20th Mar 2013, 22:04
HASELL (before aerobatix).

Harness: Loose and comfy...

Chris Scott
20th Mar 2013, 22:09
1013 all round;
Aileron Upset - NORMAL;
HP Stop Valves...

Ideas, anyone?

SilsoeSid
20th Mar 2013, 22:12
Auth'd out, signed out, booked out, walk out.

onlyme
20th Mar 2013, 22:17
Late Arm
Stick top
Camera

Stuck in my head for 25 years!

ExAscoteer
20th Mar 2013, 22:22
TOTD you forgot:

Hydraulics - three 2's, two 0's.

Danny42C
20th Mar 2013, 22:25
"Fuel and Noise".

or

"Kick the tyres, light the fires, we'll brief in the air, last man airborne buys the coffee".

D.

oldmansquipper
20th Mar 2013, 22:34
1, pause, 2, pause, .........:D

Lockstock
20th Mar 2013, 22:45
CODBEEF

POSHBEEF

:confused::confused:

Wensleydale
20th Mar 2013, 22:47
....the drills for starting engines in the Shackleton - often practised in the crewroom!

smujsmith
20th Mar 2013, 22:49
How about

STWW ?

Spectacles
Testicles
Wallet
Watch

Always did it before a night out "down route" ;)

N2erk
20th Mar 2013, 23:40
How about 'pathasa(l)tnie'- info to transmit in an emergency (after Mayday, natch), or
W(E) HAV Firad (pre-descent & joining- JP?).
TTFFMMCIHCL going up & BUMMCFIHL coming down- RAFCFC Condor
...HSI,BDHI,standby compass- erect, off flags away: ADI BDHI erect, off flags away, horizon bars set... and something about BRSL latched. rest vague.
Worst is the days when I look at the calendar, its the 10th and I panic cause I can't remember if I paid my Mess bill... :uhoh:

Bob Viking
21st Mar 2013, 00:05
Chris Scott.
Aileron upset has me thinking VC-10 but I suppose it could be from any other aircraft of similar vintage?!
BV

Chris Scott
21st Mar 2013, 00:23
Yes Bob, VC10 is correct: Top-of-Climb check.

If needed for wing-bending relief (above a certain weight), Aileron Upset is cancelled by crew (sorry, F/E) action passing FL240 in the climb. The HP Stop Valves are, IIRC, the bleed for the airframe anti-ice, which serves the L/Es of fin. tailplane and the whole wing-span (unlike more modern a/c). HP because (again IIRC) there isn't enough grunt from the LP air on the low-bypass Conway engine. Can't remember any other jet transport with a TOC check, which may explain why it sticks in my mind after 40 years. Sad, innit...

NutLoose
21st Mar 2013, 00:50
....the drills for starting engines in the Shackleton - often practised in the crewroom!

Closely followed by the three man lift and spoons :E


***

Burning and turning..

Airborne Aircrew
21st Mar 2013, 00:56
If we're allowed non-aeronautical content...

Good Soldiers Must Eat Slowly Cooked Quail

Ground
Situation
Mission, (repeated)
Execution
Service Support
Communications
Questions

That's how orders are given prior to a operation/exercise for ground troops.

CLAP

Clearly
Loudly
(And with) Pauses

How to give Fire Control Orders

GRIT

Group
Range
Indication
Type

The way in which one gives a Fire Control Order

Mag to Grid, get Rid. Grid to Mag, Add.

Determining Magnetic Deviation from Grid North.

ICGO

I could go on... :}

West Coast
21st Mar 2013, 01:56
Opposite rudder
neutralize the aileron
Stick forward
power as required

Or...

Just let go.

Arm out the window
21st Mar 2013, 02:05
Hatches and harness
Heater and demister
Electrics - volt and loadmeter
Force trim
Caution Panel
Fuel - quantity, pressure, selection
Ts and Ps
Audio
Auto
Full Throttle
66

Now let's pull pitch and f*** off!

Think it's all there (may be a bit out of order perhaps) - any takers?

dmussen
21st Mar 2013, 03:07
Anyone remember HAZEL.:ok:

ExAscoteer
21st Mar 2013, 03:30
Ground
Situation
Mission, (repeated)
Execution
Service Support
Communications
QuestionsSurely it was:

Ground
Situation
Mission, (repeated)
Execution
Service Support
Command and Signals
Any Questions
Check Understanding


Group
Range
Indication
TypeSurely it was:

Group
Range
Indication
Target


Mag to Grid, get Rid. Grid to Mag, Add.Only works if you have a Westerly Variation.

Adam Nams
21st Mar 2013, 05:13
DRIT -B

Discard, Recall, Inject, Transfer, B-scope

dmussen
21st Mar 2013, 05:49
"Tickle my penis for full satisfaction" gets a Tiger in the air every time.

John Botwood
21st Mar 2013, 06:18
That was no worry.

Just leave it on the perimeter fence on landing.

JohnB

newt
21st Mar 2013, 07:49
Well done Beags!

Two
Tits
Make
Fecking
Fine
Grips
and
Good
Pornographic
Handholds

:ok:

airborne_artist
21st Mar 2013, 08:20
Stand up, hook up, tell off for equipment check :\

Madbob
21st Mar 2013, 08:54
What does this remind you of?

Speed below 140
Airbrakes in
Undercarriage down - three reds, and hopefully three greens
Fuel sufficient for a [120/115] threshold speed
Flaps - to half or as required
Brakes on/off- pressure good/pressure released
Harness tight and locked

Its been a while since I last flew one, 1981 ISTR must check my logbook.:ok:

MB

ancientaviator62
21st Mar 2013, 09:01
Never to be forgotten (on the 'K')
Fuel flow
Ignition
Oil Pressure
Hydraulic Pressure
ETC !
As the Eng talked the engines into life

BEagle
21st Mar 2013, 09:39
Madbob, the Jet Provost.

Below 140,
Airbrakes IN
Landing gear DOWN, 3 reds.... 3 greens
Fuel (>500 lb, wasn't it?)
Flaps to T/O
Harness tight and locked...yours?
Wheelbrakes ON - holding, OFF - exhausting

Ancient Aviator, what about that 'Series....Parallel' thing which I recall from about 1972?

Another mnemonic - ERCATLI. Anyone? I'm afraid it comes from my pongo CCF days (we didn't have an RAF section...:uhoh:)

Back to aircraft, how about 'Move together, stop together'? Which, if not called, prompted a voice from the back to call "Check cheeses!".

Tankertrashnav
21st Mar 2013, 09:43
Gun firing all right - gun stops:

Cock - mag off - fresh mag on - carry on firing.

(No 1 stoppage drill for the Bren)

In the dim and distant past I was a Rockape before I was a nav!

BEagle
21st Mar 2013, 09:54
Tankertrashnav, indeed! But what about the No.2 IA drill when you also had to undo the locking lever thing, pull the barrel forward, turn the gas regulator another notch using a .303 round, replace barrel, lock, recock, then carry on firing....all while the North Korean hordes were charging at you blowing their bugles?

My late father told me that, during pre-WW2 national service, the 'weapon normally, weapon stops' was practised so frequently with whatever type of machine gun they used, that one Welsh comic piped up "'scuse me, Corporal, but if this bloody gun keeps stopping, indeed to goodness, why don't we get a better one which doesn't?". That earned him extra spud peeling for a couple of days!

During some lecture back in the days of 35mm slides, the carousel failed to advance with the usual zzzz....clunk noise of the time. The lecturer then went into a well-practised routine of "Projector projecting normally, projector stops. Power off, magazine off, clear the action (and out flew the jammed slide), magazine back on, power on, continue projecting!" :D

SilsoeSid
21st Mar 2013, 09:58
ExAscoteer ;

Group
Range
Indication
Type


Surely it was:

Group
Range
Indication
Target

I remember it as, and I'm pretty sure that it is...'Type'


Anyway, as for the others, I've heard of being picky, but picking on Airborne Aircrews post in that way, is as petty as if I was to post; 'Tq, Nc, T4, CWP' and you telling me that surely that only applies if you are in a Gazelle. :rolleyes:

ICGO

Airborne Aircrew
21st Mar 2013, 10:05
SiloeSid:

Yes, it's "Type" as in type of fire - 1 round, 5 rounds, rapid fire etc.

ExAscot:

Yes, Command and signals... Maybe I have forgotten... :ouch:

Genstabler
21st Mar 2013, 10:05
It is type, as in rapid fire etc; and for concealment:
Shape
Shadow
Shine
Surface
Silhouette
Spacing
Movement

Fareastdriver
21st Mar 2013, 10:16
Check contents.
Check pressure.
Position glass.
Pull handle.

Pontius
21st Mar 2013, 10:32
Fuel
Flaps
Armament
STO Stop
Trim
Engine
Nozzles

It's bonkers I tell ya.

bowly
21st Mar 2013, 10:55
SCAMPE?

PUBWO(C)?

Some Captains still look at me bemused when I deviate from the Big Airline SOP brief into "I will stop for a top line red, red hyd or a major loss of thrust. Engine failure above 250kts, I'll turn right for rw19 and from 300kts I'll turn d/w for 32"!!!

smujsmith
21st Mar 2013, 10:59
Gliding, the five S's for a field landing site selection:

Size, Slope, Surface, Surrounds and Stock.

Think that's right ?

Smudge

Genstabler
21st Mar 2013, 11:01
Take position
Undo
Aim
Fire
Cease fire
Shake
Shake again
Do up
Reverse

airborne_artist
21st Mar 2013, 11:15
Spectacles
Testicles
Wallet
Watch :E

Ivor Fynn
21st Mar 2013, 11:35
"Emergency Safe Release my be initiated at any time after takeoff"

Ivor:E:E:E

Cubanate
21st Mar 2013, 11:51
TAFFIOHHHCCP from 1979?

MOSTAFA
21st Mar 2013, 12:26
From 1971 and they are probably still taught today.

The position and hold must be firm enough to support the weapon
The weapon must point naturally at the target
The shot must be released and followed through without disturbing the position.
Sight alignment (aiming) must be correct.

30mRad
21st Mar 2013, 12:28
No one has mentioned:

STINT FLAGS which I stuck to even when my force chose STIFF QIM

and anyone identify this that I still am able to real off and imagine doing it:

RPM: Max
Mixture: Fully Rich
Induction Air: Cold
Fuel: booster pump on, contents, balance, both
Speed below 135: flaps to inter
Harness
Canopy
Brakes

NutLoose
21st Mar 2013, 13:06
Gun firing all right - gun stops:

Cock - mag off - fresh mag on - carry on firing.

(No 1 stoppage drill for the Bren)

In the dim and distant past I was a Rockape before I was a nav!


Slight thread drift, I remember an article about the Vietnam war and a General touring recruits on the range with the M60, he asked several recruits, a hoard of cong are coming at you and you have a jam, what do you do?
All answered,

belt off, clear blockage, belt on, carry on

And then he arrived at a Vietnam vet and asked again...

Belt off, pack off and f*ck off was the reply....

Back to the thread :O

teeteringhead
21st Mar 2013, 13:26
To combine:

I found myself at a museum sitting in the cockpit of a Wessex ...and ...

changing the drive configuration on a helicopter, a procedure that involved moving throttles and switches with much dexterity and panache

.. how about:

Stb SSL fully forward
Pt SSL fully back
Both Turbines running
No.1 needle below 180
Main Drive selected "IN"
Indicator cross-hatched
Indicator "IN"

..and still lots of people (not me chief) fcuked it up ......

newt
21st Mar 2013, 13:31
How about,

Same, rolling, pulling,half, pause, FIRE, recover!:E

Mickj3
21st Mar 2013, 13:37
Hoover hooving alright, hoover stops.

Switch of hoover,
Check bag, bag full, empty bag, replace bag,
Switch on hoover.

Hoover hooving alright, hoover stops,
Switch of hoover,
Check pipe, pipe blocked, clear blockage,
Switch on hoover

Hoover hooves a few more hooves and hoover stops again,
Hoover f****d.

Sam Dodger
21st Mar 2013, 13:44
Aunt and Uncle Fornicate Freely However Weary

Jet Povost 3/4 downwind checks

Airbrakes IN
Undercarriage DOWN,
Fuel
Flaps to T/O
Harness tight and locked
Wheelbrakes ON - holding, OFF - exhausting

Genstabler
21st Mar 2013, 13:44
WARNING. Do not drink coffee while reading this thre..............bugger!

WIDN62
21st Mar 2013, 14:22
Unlocked
Bolt gone
Runs free
Indicators checked

Answers on a postcard ....

SunderlandMatt
21st Mar 2013, 14:32
Safe.
Off.
None actioned.

spekesoftly
21st Mar 2013, 14:47
"Kick the tyres, light the fires, we'll brief in the air, last man airborne buys the coffee".
Variation - "Kick the tyres, light the fires, check in on 243".

Low level Ejection - "Zoom and Boom"

BEagle
21st Mar 2013, 14:58
30mRad - Bulldog pre-landing checks!

I'm glad no-one's mentioned the stupid 'TIMTS' thing taught by the old farts at METS....:yuk:

fantom
21st Mar 2013, 15:17
"Kick the tyres, light the fires, check in on 243".



and...first one airborne is leader.

ExAscoteer
21st Mar 2013, 15:27
Anyway, as for the others, I've heard of being picky, but picking on Airborne Aircrews post in that way, is as petty as if I was to post

SiloeSid,

I wasn't 'picking', I was querying because I remember being taught differently.

I remember the T in GRIT as being Target, as in:

'Left 2 O'Clock, 5 enemy in open, RAPID Fire'.

Genstabler
21st Mar 2013, 15:59
Nah. It's type of fire. As in:
No 1 rifleman, (Group)
100 metres, (Range)
Man in red shirt, (Indication)
One round for effect, FIRE. (Type of fire)

Take it from an ex infantryman.

AR1
21st Mar 2013, 16:00
Talking to my daughter after her first day weapon training at Catterick and all the stoppage drills came flooding back, she said "thats exactly what the range instructor told us" - Though I understand these days that they dont bother looking, just mag off, mag on. When you're in a real war 'grandad' you don't have time to tit about!

BEagle
21st Mar 2013, 16:13
Nah. It's type of fire. As in:
No 1 rifleman, (Group)
100 metres, (Range)
Man in red shirt, (Indication)
One round for effect, FIRE. (Type of fire)

Or as J*l**n S***t*n after spotting some intruders, when playing GDT Guard Cdr during some B@stard Bill induced Pratteval at Coningsby ordered:

"Sergeant - those buggers over there - WASTE THEM"
"Sir?"
"SHOOT THE BUGGERS!"

Followed by several blanks and a yell from the 'enemy' of "Oi!! What about a challenge then?" :uhoh:

SilsoeSid
21st Mar 2013, 16:13
I wasn't 'picking', I was querying ...

...I remember the T in GRIT as being Target, as in:

'Left 2 O'Clock, 5 enemy in open, RAPID Fire'.



Mmm, If 'Left 2 O'Clock, 5 enemy in open, RAPID Fire', is 'Target...what is your 'Indication'?

Left 2 O'Clock!!!:D

Don't you mean the whole order being something like;
Gun group
200 m
Left of arc, enemy in open ground
Rapid Fire!
:p


So, "Only in be Northern Hemisphere", isn't being picky?
Nice to see you realised its all about GMA and edited your post ;)

langleybaston
21st Mar 2013, 16:13
I think in the Great war it was D R I N K ???

Designate [target, as in cavalry]
Range
Indicate [bearing, fingers to left/ right, left of red barn or whatever]
Number of rounds

but what was K? Kontrol, as in Fire, cease fire ....?

SilsoeSid
21st Mar 2013, 16:21
"One round for effect, Fire!"....that's a new one for me.
Only time I heard FFE was when laying down some Art'y :ok:

If that one round missed the man in the red shirt, do you then have to repeat the fire order :ugh:

Genstabler
21st Mar 2013, 16:30
Wouldn't miss. Warning shots went out after Aden. Take leader out and, in theory, rioters dispersed. Leader of riot was traditionally dressed in red shirt according to IS training. A bit like bushy topped trees.

SilsoeSid
21st Mar 2013, 16:37
....and if its parked by a silver birch tree it's a T-64, unless it's on a train...in which case it's a T-72 :ok:

Wander00
21st Mar 2013, 16:41
GenS - I recall as a cadet at Cranditz early 60s being taught IS - unfurl banner, read Riot Act, etc, teaching was aimed shot at ringleader (red shirted or not), and NEVER fire over their heads

30mRad
21st Mar 2013, 16:44
Beagle - spot on!

woptb
21st Mar 2013, 16:48
F
B
I
Detective.

Don't the black hats always conceal themselves in a red roofed building ,least thats what I wrote on my compo box!

Bob Viking
21st Mar 2013, 17:11
I can't believe no-one has mentioned ****AS, SHET4(2) yet!
Anyone remember that one?!
BV:8

staircase
21st Mar 2013, 17:49
1. Warn the crew
2. Close throttle
3. Rpm lever to feather
4. Feathering button pressed
5. Injector cut off to cut off
6. Fuel master cock off
7. Ignition off

30mRad
21st Mar 2013, 18:16
Not a drill, but sticks in my mind:

PITHBLOT

West Coast
21st Mar 2013, 18:22
How 'bout the two TACAN rule.....

Surely some are familiar

NutLoose
21st Mar 2013, 18:31
RAF Regiment GDT training Brize, "just shoot the barstewards but make sure they don't get up, that way there is no one to disprove you never issued a challenge". :E

Courtney Mil
21st Mar 2013, 18:32
PITHBLOT. Took me a while, but my IRE memory finally came good. Pressure instruments.:ok:

Albert Driver
21st Mar 2013, 18:35
True Virgins Make Dull Companions

caught the attention of one 17-year-old and pointed him in the right direction. :ok:

ACW599
21st Mar 2013, 19:36
Or the inverse; "Cadbury's Dairy Milk Very Tasty".

ScouseFlyer
21st Mar 2013, 20:05
C-Clearly
L-Loudly
A-As an order
P-With pauses

At least that what I was taught both on my Sandhurst course and subsequently at Warminster back in the early 70's.
Also definitely Type of fire for the T in GRIT

SF

Ivan Rogov
21st Mar 2013, 20:21
Never could get to grips with GRIT...

'Enemy. Watch my tracer!' always seemed easier :E

RSuppards
21st Mar 2013, 21:29
In response to Newt, post #32

Tiny
Tim's
Mother
Fondles
Fat
George's
Gigantic
Pr*ck
Ha
Ha

at least that's what my man said it meant

Chris Scott
21st Mar 2013, 22:07
Hardly erotic, and a bit nouveau, but someone's got to mention DODAR sooner or later...

Captain Radar....
21st Mar 2013, 22:38
- . ... -/- .... ./--.- ..- .. -.-. -.-/
-... .-. --- .-- -./..-. --- -..-/
.--- ..- -- .--. .../--- ...- . .-./- .... ./
.-.. .- --.. -.--/-.. --- --./.-.-.
or
-... . ... -/-... . -. -/.-- .. .-. -/.-.-.

Fintastic
21st Mar 2013, 22:42
Flaps
Slats
Pumps
Cocks
Lights 1, 2, 3
Canopy
Pins
Ground

Name the ac? :confused:

Melchett01
21st Mar 2013, 23:49
Spin recovery checks during my UAS days on Bulldogs. It's been over 15 years since I last flew in a 'Dog, and I'm convinced they could well be my final words on my death bed so forcefully were they beaten in to me by my instructor at the time.

For a left hand spin - seemed to be usual / more common than right hand spin - engine torque issues IIRC:

Check height
Throttle closed
Needle left
Full right rudder
Control column centrally fully forward
Spin stops
UP recovery
Check Ts & Ps and deadwing clear.

AR1
22nd Mar 2013, 07:43
First drill of the day 'HOCOWS'

RetiredBA/BY
22nd Mar 2013, 08:20
Easy Money Always Readily Available Cash Down.

Anyone ?

NutherA2
22nd Mar 2013, 10:12
During one of his CAAFU visits to Perth, Dennis Mobberley decided to have the Cessna 310 added to his type ratings. During the briefing for the 1179 he asked if I had any objection to him using his own checks rather than our school lists; I agreed that this would not be a problem as long as all essential items were completed.

During the first circuit I was intrigued by his mnemonic, which included “Hydraulic Pressure” and finished with “Oxygen Off and Guns to Safe”. At the debrief he explained that these same pre-landing checks had served him well on the Venom and he had used them ever since.

RetiredBA/BY
22nd Mar 2013, 13:41
Thats probably not a good idea, using a single jet check list on a twin piston with VP props !

Remember DM well from my Victor (B1a) conversion !!

Cubanate
22nd Mar 2013, 14:50
Apologies. #86 must be and old drill that I just have forgotten :O since no one has offered an answer to what the old drill was.

dmussen
22nd Mar 2013, 15:28
PUFO, PUFO,PUFO or three taps on the trusty bone dome and a thumb pointing the way home if one had to be quiet. Seemed to work jolly well.

Per Ardua Ad Astra and Everything.

D.

AARON O'DICKYDIDO
22nd Mar 2013, 15:39
For the technical minded;

Eat
Good
Jam
Leave
None

Aaron.

dmussen
22nd Mar 2013, 15:57
Love it.
However :- BOOTS LACED TIGHT - RUDDER BAR FOR THE KICKING OF.

Cheers,
D.

longer ron
22nd Mar 2013, 18:41
For the Technically minded...:)

Eat
Good
Jam
Leave
None

And for the larger (imperial) bolt sizes...:)

Peter
Quickly
Slips
Up
Wendy

smujsmith
22nd Mar 2013, 21:27
I doubt this qualifies as a drill, but, it's something that was "drilled" into me at Halton by a certain Flt Lt John Potter, our erstwhile Airframe Science instructor.

1/2 Rho Vsquared S CL , where Rho is air density measured in Slugs per cubic foot, .0024 comes to mind. Vsquared obviously the velocity squared, s being the surface area of the mainplane and CL being the Coefficient of Lift for that aero foil profile. It allows you to work out the lift for a wing. Amazing for me at 15+ years old.

Smudge

langleybaston
22nd Mar 2013, 22:00
Met observer on way to Stevenson screen for the hourly ob:

weather/precipitation type
cloud cover
cloud names
cloud base
visibillty .............
............. arrives at screen
temperature
wet bulb
reset max min etc ......
........ **** I'm behind drag curve..........
..........back in office read wind speed direction gusts
check cloud base
colour it for ATC and NATO
add forecaster's two hour trend
code it all up
transmit
kettle on

10 minutes max.

Easy Street
22nd Mar 2013, 22:31
Bulldog pre-descent checks: FIRADIT

Fuel
Instruments
Radios
Altimeter
Demist
Induction air
Transponder

Variations of this worked on all subsequent training aircraft. A touch of patois is required for use on the Tornado:

Fuel
Instruments
Radalt bug
Altimeters
De' wings :cool:
IFF
Thrust reverse

Low Flier
22nd Mar 2013, 22:53
EFATO for a piston twin:

Firewall everything
Undercarriage up
Check which engine has failed
Kill the dying engine

That mnemonic would quite certainly be the first syllable from my lips if it ever happened for real.

NutLoose
22nd Mar 2013, 22:58
As an engineer I've always believed in

If you can't fix it, f*ck it, so no other f*cker can fix it.......

Stood me well all these years lol :p

Steve the Pirate
23rd Mar 2013, 00:04
cubanate, I remember the (slightly different) mnemonic at #86 standing for:

Trim +5, neutral, neutral
Antiskid
Autostab
Nozzle stop
Flaps
Fuel
Instruments
Oxygen
Hood
Harness
Hydraulics
Controls
Captions
Pins

Is that the one?

STP

NutLoose
23rd Mar 2013, 00:13
Must be a rigger then Nut?


Ex RAF A Tech P

Civilian wise licences cover

Airframes
Engines
Electrics
Instruments
Compass
Basic Radio

And a few hundred aircraft / engine types.

Pretty standard for Civilian licences.

:O

AtomKraft
23rd Mar 2013, 00:15
Camel Camelling.

Camel stops!

Jump off, hump off- look inside.

Rounds in the camel, no rounds in the hump etcetera, etcetera. :)

One they really beat into me was the four principles of marksmanship.

the position and hold must be firm enough to support the weapon

the weapon must point naturally at the target

the sight alignment must be correct

the shot must be released, and followed through without disturbing the aim

NutLoose
23rd Mar 2013, 00:25
:eek:


....

old,not bold
23rd Mar 2013, 00:39
Two drills from Prentice days....first was taught to me by Adam Wojda, not a man to waste time, he said he learned it in the Battle of Britain;

Pre take off:- F F F

Fuel - Fan - Fu...leave (Fuel FULL and ON, Pitch fully FINE, Take off)


Second; I still wake up doing it in a nightmare; it's the procedure in a Prentice (OK, in my Prentice) for a change of frequency as in "Go to Tower, 118 decimal 1" when a mile or two from the threshold.

It had a 4-channel valve/crystal VHF set behind the left-hand seat with a selector for ABCD on the panel. If you had not loaded the crystal you needed pre-flight, you had to....

Reach behind the seat and switch set OFF.
Remove crystal from set, by feel.
Open box of crystals on RH seat, locate new crystal out of 75 of them, remove it.
Put old crystal in box.
Reach behind seat, feel for empty crystal socket, insert new crystal
Remove antenna feeder from socket in set
Insert in antenna socket a 3 ft piece of 2-core wire with a bulb on one end
Switch on set
Select channel with new crystal
With left hand press PTT on column
With right hand unlock and turn the antenna tuner knob for max brightness of bulb
Release PTT and Lock tuner
Remove piece of wire and replace with antenna feeder.
Call "Tower, this is GAOPL, short final".

Pretty standard for Civilian licences.Once upon a time, children, there was BeeCeeAyAhhh, but then the big bad beast called EEEArseAhhh came and swallowed up BEECEEayAhh, and we all lived unhappily ever after.

Min Decent Ht
23rd Mar 2013, 04:09
Post flight anti-embarrassment checks (works on all types), prior to entering dispersal:
Lights
Hyds
Pins
PSP
Wings (or RADAR)

flipper the dolphin
23rd Mar 2013, 14:50
From my RAFGSA days.....

Post take off.....

W U R O

Wheel - up Radio - off

AHHHH Bliss.

FTD

Onceapilot
23rd Mar 2013, 15:29
Fix/Attack,Stab,Ackle-ackle, Insert;).

OAP

Lordflasheart
23rd Mar 2013, 18:06
OAP's - Fix/Attack,Stab,Ackle- etc sounds like a Bayonet Drill.

Any takers for this convoluted mnemonic ?



A
D - am'
F - ine
G - irl
K - issed
L - onely
M - arine,
N - et
R- esult,
S - prog
U - nder
W - ay


Nowadays I'm not entirely sure if "M - arine" came before "G - irl" or indeed whether you dared not call him "Royal" if there was one within earshot. Fairly certain it didn't stand for "Matelot."



LFH

Onceapilot
23rd Mar 2013, 18:53
Good point LFH! It is a back seat routine but, some of us did work in more than one specialisation at the same time:ooh:.

OAP

Cubanate
24th Mar 2013, 11:48
STP,

It is indeed only slightly different; there are a couple of items in there that I don't remember from the JP5A pre-take off checks. But you're probably younger than me!:ok:

FCWhippingBoy
24th Mar 2013, 18:37
Captain Radar ...

Best Bent Wire! Still give that a quick blast when picking up a morse key!

Back on thread ...

F uel (pump on, contents sufficient)
R adio (as required)
E ngine (Ts & Ps / 5 Greens)
P ropellor (in climb pitch / full power available)
P arking break (off)
A ltimeter (QFE set)
T ransponder (as required)
C arb heat (hot)
H arnesses (tight & locked)

Schnowzer
24th Mar 2013, 19:04
Full Cipmunk:
Pre-T/O:
Tiny, Tim, Makes, Fishfingers, Go, Green, Pete, Though, Has, Them, Evenly, Turned...includes throttle friction nut.
Downwind:
My, Fat, Friend, Has, Hairy, Balls
After-landers:
Brave, Pirates, Take, Two, Frigates

JP Downwind:
Sarah And Lesley, F*ck, For, Hours, Willingly.........sadly they didn't!

Sloppy Link
24th Mar 2013, 20:04
SS-11. Impact - wires cut, sight caged.
TOW. Low mag, sight stow, MASS to safe.


Breathing, bleeding, breaks and burns - funny how that has come back round again.

ACW599
24th Mar 2013, 20:11
>F uel (pump on, contents sufficient)
R adio (as required)
E ngine (Ts & Ps / 5 Greens)
P ropellor (in climb pitch / full power available)
P arking break (off)
A ltimeter (QFE set)
T ransponder (as required)
C arb heat (hot)
H arnesses (tight & locked)<

That'll be the rejoin checks for the mighty Vigilant, not forgetting the dreaded mute switch as part of the Radio check.

One of our guys is a BA first officer. He reckons the checklist for his 747 is a lot less complicated than that for the Vegemite...

LOMCEVAK
24th Mar 2013, 20:47
"Cheeses moving - cheeses stopped. High speed, fully down, Blow's on auto, brakes held on".

Any thoughts?

I have a couple of ubiquitous pre-embarrassment checks, depending on class of aircraft, that I always use when lining up for take-off:

Jets: 'Flaps, trims and pins'
Pistons: 'Flaps, trims, prop, tailwheel lock'

BEagle
24th Mar 2013, 22:45
Lomcovák, Buccaneer?

Personal pre-landing checks:

Gear down, toes clear, clearance.

Arm out the window
25th Mar 2013, 07:36
Jets: 'Flaps, trims and pins'

That sounds like my CYA (cover your arse) pre T/O check: 'Canopy, Pin, Flaps, Trim'

Lightning Mate
25th Mar 2013, 08:20
Plan Fix
Insert
Chg Dest

Pylons
Late Arm

Wensleydale
25th Mar 2013, 08:23
Not quite drills, but an old Stn Cdr usd to use an old form of the Phonetic Alphabet that went on the lines of:

A for 'orses
B for Dinner
C for Miles
D for Kate
E for Brick
F for vescent
G for Security
H for it in the morning
I for the Tank Engine
J for Oranges
K for teria
L for Leather
M for Caemia
N for Lope
O for The Wings of a Dove
P for Relief
Q for Hours
R for Askey
S for Rantsen
T for Two
U for Mism
V for Espania
W for Quits
X for Breakfast
Y for Biscuit
Z for Zodiac (pronounced "Zee")

Four Types
25th Mar 2013, 12:27
Switches one, contacts one, turning Number One, Number one's on the throttle, Charge temp hot number one.

Same for the other three.

And I sat down the back!!

My mate has a tape recording of the Shackleton starting checks.....we spent a happy (if somewhat sad) hour listening to them late one night over a beer...happy days!

One for the guys down the back though.

Undercarriage locks - 5 stowed
Pitot covers and static vent plugs - 4 stowed
Ladder - stowed.

barnstormer1968
25th Mar 2013, 15:23
I rarely touch fire arms these days so no longer bother with 'cock, hook and look'
But still use the first aid 'cock look and hook'

chopd95
25th Mar 2013, 16:40
GDI, sequence for grid reference:
You get across 'em before you get up 'em

reynoldsno1
27th Mar 2013, 01:29
TAFFIO
JP3 pre take-off Trim, Airbrakes, Fuel, Flaps, Instruments, Oxygen

RetiredBA/BY
27th Mar 2013, 08:06
Plus HHH , hood, harness and hydraulics !!

Mk 1
27th Mar 2013, 10:56
Cock, lock look (the Aussie version)

Most importantly the 7 x P's

SpazSinbad
27th Mar 2013, 11:48
T ry
T ickling
M ary's
P ...
F laps
C ause
S he
H as
H airy
C ...
T rouble

Try matching woids with actual fings to check. :D

diginagain
27th Mar 2013, 12:18
Pre-field landing check;
Crops
'Oles
Cows
Kids

'Umps
Poles

Lordflasheart
27th Mar 2013, 22:46
Any takers for this convoluted mnemonic ?

A
D - am'
F - ine
G - irl
K - issed
L - onely
M - arine,
N - et
R- esult,
S - prog
U - nder
W - ay




OK I'll bite -

It is the clockwise sequence of 30 degree sector morse ident letters for the YE/YG USN & RN Carrier homing beacon system. "A" represented North to 030 deg so if you heard that, you steered between South and 210 for Mother. They changed the Ident letters regularly during combat operations, but for many "peacetime" years it fortunately remained unchanged. If you were lucky, someone had a big inky rubber stamp to stamp the circle of sectors on the back of your flying glove.



Code named "Hayrake." LFH

Arm out the window
28th Mar 2013, 01:24
T ry
T ickling
M ary's
P ...
F laps
C ause
S he
H as
H airy
C ...
T rouble

I was too late in the piece to fly it, but how about this:

Trims set
Tailwheel locked
Mixture rich
Prop full increase
Flaps set for T/O, fuel quantity pressure selection, flight instruments set
Carby heat cold
Switches set
Hatches
Harness
Controls full and free
Dunno about the last T!

And in this PC day and age, it would probably have to be:

Talk
To
Mary
Politely
Foregoing
Chauvinist
Sexism
Helping
Her
Career
Thrive

moggiee
20th Aug 2014, 12:37
Wasn't there some sort of RAF mnemonic used for preparing to join/rejoin the airfield? I'm not talking of FREDA or it's many variations, but something that actually guided the student pilot (JP3 /Jetstream in my case) through his preparation for the approach.

Of course, it could just be a faulty memory on my part (wouldn't be the first time!)

Madbob
20th Aug 2014, 13:18
F - Fuel - Sufficient, select fullest tank
R - Radio(s) - set correct freq
E - Engine(s) - this covered everything, temps/pressures
D - Direction Indicator - sync to compass, select heading bug to runway QDM
A - Altimeter (set QFE/QNH)

FREDA explained :ok:

MB

MPN11
20th Aug 2014, 14:24
Out of my league as an ATCO, but I still remember this ... name that aircraft!

E&OE, this was a longggg time ago.

Speed below 135
Select gear down
2,400 rpm ... copilot, synchronise
Oil coolers Auto
Cooling Flaps open
Brake pressure 1,200 (value?)
Three greens?

Checks complete.
(Hatches and harness? where did that come?)

Shackman
20th Aug 2014, 14:29
Varsity (?)

MPN11
20th Aug 2014, 14:43
Too easy, but funny how it stuck in my mind!

We are talking 65-67 here.

Dave and I were the 2 plt off ATCOs on opposite shifts at Strubby, and occasionally were asked to 'assist' in the RHS with Air Tests and things like that if there were insufficient 'holding co-pilots' to go around the School of Refresher Flying. Our duties seemed to be confined to reaching the switches on the upper right overhead panel (air intake, oil cooler ... thats it) that would otherwise require an orang-utan in the LHS to reach!

We even had our own flying kit at the Sqn, and obviously got some stick time as well. I recall one trip where I was directed to the LHS for a quick Air Test or similar, and told start it up and get going. Was it 12 blades? Young ATCOs avidly read the copies of Pilot's Notes in the Tower in those days, of course!

Can you imagine anything like that these days?

mole man
20th Aug 2014, 15:04
Port back starboard forward clear to stat no2 (Wessex)

Mole Man:ok:

Boudreaux Bob
20th Aug 2014, 15:12
DI....."What is the Spirit of Hand to Hand to Hand Combat?

Us...."To KILL!"

DI...."What is the Spirit of the Knife?"

Us..."To KILL!"

DI...."What is the Spirit of the Bayonet?"

Us..."To KILL!"


DI...."What is the Spirit of First Aid?"

Us..."To KILL!" "Huh What""


Drills may be good....but they may be not so good too!

500N
20th Aug 2014, 15:19
OAP's - Fix/Attack,Stab,Ackle- etc sounds like a Bayonet Drill.


We did "In, Out, on guard" as bayonet drill.

or "In, Out, on guard", with a butt stroke if required.

BEagle
20th Aug 2014, 15:39
500N wrote: "In, Out, on guard", with a butt stroke if required.

Are you sure that wasn't merely some form of Antipodean foreplay? As in "You awake?", "Brace yerself, Sheila" (or, if in Tasmania, "Brace yerself...Mum!").

:p

500N
20th Aug 2014, 15:43
BEagle

Very good :D:D:D


I also haven't heard this one before
"(or, if in Tasmania, "Brace yerself...Mum!")"

BOING
20th Aug 2014, 15:53
Or we could remember the Jackeroo (Thruxton circa 65) where the only downwind landing check was that the slats were unlocked. Since you never actually moved the lever in the pattern this was nice and easy because to lock the slats you had to slide the window open and reach out to operate a lever fixed to the interwing struts.

Wander00
20th Aug 2014, 17:07
N
O
R
W
I
C
H


Oh, hang on, that's something different isn't it. memory is getting dim


hat, coat...................specs........................

LowObservable
20th Aug 2014, 17:26
"In an ideal world, it would be KORWICH". (2:25)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiFL7jkIRT8

Wander00
20th Aug 2014, 17:56
Now those were the days - telegrams. I still have a couple sent to me by friends of the parents when I graduated from the Towers.

airborne_artist
20th Aug 2014, 17:57
"In an ideal world, it would be KORWICH". (2:25)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiFL7jkIRT8Invoice for new keyboard, screen cleaner and cost of replacement of vital documents to LO :D

Fareastdriver
20th Aug 2014, 18:04
told start it up and get going. Was it 12 blades?

I got caught by that as a guest pilot in a Varsity. I counted nine blades and hit the magnetos. I didn't start very well. Not surprisingly as the last Hercules I had started was a three bladed version on a Halifax.

The Herc needed three revolutions.

Prangster
20th Aug 2014, 19:17
Blimey a glider had flaps when did that happen

500N
20th Aug 2014, 19:31
"In an ideal world, it would be KORWICH". (2:25)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fiFL7jkIRT8

Haven't heard that one for years.

NORWICH and many others, written on the back of envelopes.

JosuaNkomo
20th Aug 2014, 21:01
Dash,Down,Crawl,Observe,Sights,Fire

Rosevidney1
20th Aug 2014, 21:19
On a visit to the helicopter museum at Weston-Super-Mare I found myself performing a pre-flight check on a (non airworthy) Sioux. The drill came back to me and everything went smoothly until I tried to test the fuel drain cock - but the exhibit didn't have one fitted. Felt quite disappointed!

Basil
20th Aug 2014, 21:33
Single engine renewal - go-around - raised nose to where current jet type would go - noticed ASI - put nose back again :O

Sailingbiggles
20th Aug 2014, 21:55
Bob, hows about:
Bug to foul, bug to base...........same..drift, drift, drift, track, FIRE!
You coming back to Blighty someday or have you gone native?

500N
20th Aug 2014, 22:03
Dash,Down,Crawl,Observe,Sights,Fire

Run down crawl observe aim fire.

And I can still hear the Capt who was a Vietnam vet yelling at us
to get our heads down !

Stuff
20th Aug 2014, 22:12
Bug to foul, bug to base...........same..drift, drift, drift, track, FIRE!


The Hawk student version of drift, drift, track, fire was often replaced with:
Piece of P*ss, too good to miss, dah dit dah dit dah dit - BRRRRRRRRRPPPPTTTTTT!

It had the same cadence as the original but somehow the QWIs still objected.

BEagle
20th Aug 2014, 22:22
Fixed cross against the strafe target at Pembrey in Hunter days:

Same
Pause
Fire
Recover

Apart from one of my course (in the 'Barge')

Same
Pause
Fire
Pause
I HAVE CONTROL
Overstress

My idiot's guide to cine weave:

"Track, track, throttle back...roll, airbrake, power".

It seemed to keep the practitioners of 'triggernometry' (QWIs) happy in the cine room afterwards!

TomJoad
20th Aug 2014, 22:42
Not so much a drill but even today when in the car I always call out "clear left or right" at a junction when I'm a passenger - my wife understands it fine. Maybe it's in common use now or always was.

What about "clear, ease springs" - said it the other day and a colleague looked wholly bemused.


The ones that always made me laugh were the ones used in the annual GDT test especially the first aid - it changed every year, each drill acronym becoming every more contrived. AVPU sticks in my mind - no idea what it was for.

Tom

Treg
20th Aug 2014, 23:21
A Pararescue colleague received this via telegram on the day of his wedding.
“At a critical moment later tonight if things are not going as well as expected, don’t worry, just remember to… Look – Locate – Punch Right – Punch Left – Arch – Check – Clear”

Bob Viking
21st Aug 2014, 00:03
Too soon to say!
BV;)

West Coast
21st Aug 2014, 02:04
To clear a jammed M-16

S-slap the bottom of the magazine
P-pull the charging handle
O-observe if round is ejected
R-release the charging handle
T-tap the forward assist
S-squeeze the trigger

CISTRS
21st Aug 2014, 02:45
The winch, retrieve vehicles and trailers were checked:

P petrol
O oil
W water
E electrics
R rubber

John Eacott
21st Aug 2014, 05:09
Not so much a drill but even today when in the car I always call out "clear left or right" at a junction when I'm a passenger - my wife understands it fine. Maybe it's in common use now or always was.

Hmm. I was driving a demo car with the salesman alongside who called clear left. Looked quite perplexed when I asked "are you a pilot?"

"Of course: how did you know?"

500N
21st Aug 2014, 05:20
Our family does it as well if a passenger in a car.

None of us are pilots.

Rick777
21st Aug 2014, 06:57
Too long to repeat here, but I bet most USAF pilots who flew the T37 can recite the single spin recovery.

tartare
21st Aug 2014, 09:25
Throttle friction nut firm
Mixture full rich carb heat cold
Pitch set fine
Flaps set 10 takeoff
Fuel sufficient for flight
Instruments set
Hatches and harness secure
Controls full and free movement
Look out

Brakes
Undercarriage
Mixture full rich
Pitch fine
Flaps approach

Clear left is a regular call in our car too.
Specially from the wife's seat.
Mrs T's Dad flew Hurricanes, Spits, the Super Connie and was the first Air India pilot to be checked out on the 707.

Samuel
21st Aug 2014, 09:39
Some years ago after eldest daughter had finished her first degree,she decided on a further horticultural qualification which included some instruction on small engines.Irecall her asking me one day what the Otto cycle meant an I told her it related to four-stroke petrol engines, as in "Induction,Compression,Ignition, Exhaust", or as I recall one instruct:or telling me;"Suck, Squeeze, Bang, Fart.":D

Bill4a
21st Aug 2014, 23:11
Ok, got the imprest? Roger - we go!

Boudreaux Bob
22nd Aug 2014, 03:56
Tart.....would not checking the Fuel first save on an unnecessary setting of Flaps on occasions?:E

thing
22nd Aug 2014, 04:14
Smudge, I still use WULF although I believe it's UFSTALL now. I think it's Undercarriage, Flaps, Speed, Trim, Airbrakes, Landing area and Lookout, and there's an E on the end of CBSIFTCB these days for 'Eventualities'.

Power wise I use ATPL as a last check when lining up for Approach, Transponder, Pitot, Lights. It's saved me from taking off with the transponder on 'Standby' on numerous occasions.

diginagain
22nd Aug 2014, 04:51
Put me in a Lynx and I could probably get it going, from muscle-memory alone. One of the few things my brain has refused to let-go of, even after almost 18 years since demob, is the UK Mil definition of a chemical agent...

tartare
22nd Aug 2014, 05:49
Very good Bob ;)
Actually remember landing the old girl once after a cross country, and dipping the tanks before gassing her up.
Nearly bone dry.
Fair **** myself.
Was young, callow and learned a valuable lesson.
The checklist is not like reciting a magic spell to prevent you from stuffing up.
You have to consciously.
Stop.
And check.
That you have completed.
Every item.

longer ron
22nd Aug 2014, 06:03
I still use WULF although I believe it's UFSTALL now

Many years before tinternet was invented - I used WWW -

Water
Wind
Wheel

A friend used STUFFIT :)

Hempy
22nd Aug 2014, 08:54
Samuel, the one I learned was 'suck, squeeze, bang, blow', aka the 'good night out' :)

BBadanov
22nd Aug 2014, 10:32
From Spaz805 and Arm-out-the-window:

Slightly wrong guys, but it was over 40 years ago.
Winjeel vital actions...

T ry
T ickling
M ary's
P retty
F annie
F or
S he
I s
H aving
H airy
C ...
T rouble

Trims set
Throttle
Mixture rich
Prop full increase
Flaps set for T/O
Fuel quantity pressure selection
Switches set
Instruments set
Hatches
Harness
Controls full and free
Tailwheel locked

diginagain
22nd Aug 2014, 11:13
A pre-field landing check that was once printed in 'Flight' goes:

Crops
'Oles
Cows
Kids
'Umps
Poles

Minnie Burner
22nd Aug 2014, 11:24
Centralise the blankets,
Full opposite bedpost.
?????

Stops the room spinning after happy hour

Rossian
22nd Aug 2014, 12:27
.....I always found that putting one foot out of the bedding on the floor tended to give stable horizontal reference.

The Ancient Mariner

Minnie Burner
22nd Aug 2014, 12:47
AM:
Even at sea?
MB

Rossian
22nd Aug 2014, 15:08
....yes, even in a French submarine. It was after my "baptism" as a "submariner" which started with a half pint of sea water drawn off in the engine room at 1000feet down. Followed by champagne, coquilles saint-jaques with Mersault; magret de canard with a very nice red burgundy, salad, cheese board, chocolate mousse, coffee and liqueur. Having climbed to 500 feet I retired to my bunk, but there was a loooooong swell and roll.
The saying was "happiness is 500 feet in a gale". Not completely true.

It's all in the mind really.

The Ancient Mariner

Fg Off Bloggs
22nd Aug 2014, 15:50
I'm sure we are all guilty and have severe difficulty changing our ways or shaking them off!

Ten Signs You Married into the Military - Food & Nonsense (http://foodandnonsense.com/ten-signs-married-military/)

Bloggs:E

MPN11
22nd Aug 2014, 17:32
Roger, Bloggs. Out.


Actually, from the depths of weird ... some of you may know that the Mirage had/has a system whereby, when calling for landing clearance, there was an additional "beep" that confirmed the gear was down and locked. The OH and I now use a vocal "beep" to ack msgs between rooms ... saves time and effort :)

fantom
22nd Aug 2014, 18:21
Fixed cross against the strafe target at Pembrey in Hunter days:



Ah, I was so bad, at the end of the course, the RSO told ME when to release the bomb.

True.

Canadian Break
23rd Aug 2014, 10:36
"Kick the tyres, light the fires and the last one airborne may be rowing for the other team!"

uffington sb
27th Aug 2014, 10:35
Anyone remember the urination and defecation drills?
1. Tie braces together.
2. Drop trousers.
3. Squat.
4. Ensure trouser top is away from any orifice (otherwise they end up full of sh1t)
5. Dump.
6. Pull on braces to pull up trousers.

If you had forgotten No 1, then you're in trouble!

And any volunteers for the sniff test?

John Farley
27th Aug 2014, 13:08
Habit. Very interesting question Bob.

I remember the late Roger Green, one of the best aviation psychologists that ever worked for the IAM, saying “excuse me while I extract my biro from my pencil sharpener”. Basically as I grew up I was not a big fan of fixed checks but I liked to think instead (talking single seat stuff here remember not large aircraft multi crew).

As a result I once overheard a Boscombe tp talking about me and my views on Harrier takeoff checks and he said “Farley? He just screams TAFFIOH and opens the throttle”

(Trims Airbrake Fuel Flaps Instruments Oxygen Hood harness hydraulics – the RAF ‘standard’ idea for TO checks in the early 60s. FRCs had not been invented then. But aeroplanes like Meteors and Hunters were much simpler when it came to systems)

So no Bob, I don’t have such a problem as you mention but I would like to make some (slightly) off topic comments about checks. In my day (50 years ago remember) there were things called Takeoff Vital Actions. In my view they were nothing of the sort because some of the many checks were not actually vital, and I do mean vital, for the success of the takeoff (oxygen for example).

However by the time the Harrier happened systems and associated emergency actions were much more complicated so the central warning system (CWS) panel concept resulted and what a wonderful help that was.

In the case of the early Harriers if there were no lights lit on the CWS panel and HUD support brackets the aircraft was serviceable, including enough fuel for the takeoff. While having the wrong trim or flaps set was not clever it should not cause you to crash on takeoff. However sorting out in your head just what you were going to do with the throttle and nozzle lever that was vital – really vital. So in my view the Harrier vital actions before takeoff were a case of no lights on and think about what you are going to do with your left hand - and that is what I used to tell people.

Landing was just about the wheels. Nothing else was vital.

However I do accept that my comments are not appropriate for you in your 115 today.

Of course FRCs are not without their gotchas. In my time Dunsfold pilots had to do their IRTs at Boscombe in Hunter two seaters. One day my IRE said “Sorry – we have aircraft XYZ which has hybrid instrument displays – part Hunter part OR946 - so I will deal with its specially modified FRC, start it up, taxi and get it ready to line up and your trip starts then”. Nice guy. At the holding point he went backwards and forwards though this FRC with stickers all over it and eventually declared we were ready to go. I pointed up at the open canopy and he blew his top and went into a great rant about the FRC, stuffing it into his pocket and saying “From now on we will conduct this flight based on experience”.

1.3VStall
27th Aug 2014, 20:48
Still use WULF:

Wheel - down
Undercarriage - down
Landing gear - down
**** - check the wheel is down

(And still at my Club our youngsters manage to land the Astir with wheel up with monotonous regularity!).

goofer
28th Aug 2014, 00:20
Since some maritime and army checks and drills have crept in, how about:

"Steering gear breakdown, steering gear breakdown, steering gear breakdown. Steering gear breakdown party muster in the Admiral's pantry flat!"

To be used (in HMS Tiger anyway) in the event of a...errr... steering gear breakdown....

Bob Viking
28th Aug 2014, 02:10
JF.
Interesting that you mention TAFFIOH. I can't remember checks from Firefly/Tucano/Hawk T1/T2 well enough to know if the concept is still utilised but it does sound vaguely familiar. In Canada on the Hawk we have HTFSOCE which, I am told, is a fairly standard mnemonic across all fleets. Clearly without having flown other aircraft in Canada I can't say for sure.
It's been a good few months now since I slipped into a Jaguar abort brief so maybe I'm finally cured. Or perhaps I've been flying too many rear seat instructional sorties. Time for some SCT methinks.
BV

Jwscud
28th Aug 2014, 03:31
Taught on my first encounter with a jet - FUC it. Never forgotten.

Flaps
Undercarriage
Clearance

TyroPicard
28th Aug 2014, 15:08
Not aviation but still safety critical...

Blond
Women
Really
Are
Fun

gzornenplatz
28th Aug 2014, 20:20
By the time it reached the Javelin it was TAFFIGROSH. Gawd knows what the GRS stood for. Anyway you could always ask the talking ballast.


I'm sure I will be corrected.

big v
28th Aug 2014, 21:10
PATHASATNE for a distress call?

condor17
28th Aug 2014, 21:57
Re survival training in 't military ; was it same as civvie ? ...

Pilots ................... Protection
Love .................... Location
Wet ..................... Water
F+++y.................. Food

rgds condor

wishywashy
29th Aug 2014, 23:31
Wheels up
Flaps up
Coffee up
Feet up
Light up
Ah--The good old days!!!!

overstress
5th Sep 2014, 23:51
FIRAD - JP Mk3 descent checks

Clear - ease springs - that made me chuckle, if wife is passengering in the car,she looks left and says 'clear,' and I always reply 'ease springs'

"Working parts forward and carry on"

Spectacles testicles wallet and watch - leaving the flight deck last chance checks? now with the addition of iPad and battery pack...

AARON O'DICKYDIDO
6th Sep 2014, 09:40
The two I remember from Boy Entrants are;

The top sheet goes on the bottom and the bottom sheet goes in the laundry.

You have been issued with 3 of every thing; 1 on, 1 off and 1 in the wash.

Aaron.