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Pelikal
2nd Mar 2013, 14:49
As toddlers, myself and 2 sisters used to make woolen balls. No idea why I have the sudden urge to make some, maybe connected with my interest in Geodesics. I remember using two discs of card and threading the wool around the 'core', bit like a circular magnet then tying and cutting along the circumference between the discs.

I have seen Utube vids on how it is done. My question is, how crucial is the ratio between the outer diameter of the card and the size of the inner hole?

This query has absolutely nothing to do with American Cheerleaders in various states of undress.....;)

radeng
2nd Mar 2013, 14:53
Nor with LNER J11 class locomotives!

sisemen
2nd Mar 2013, 15:07
Nor with these playful machines....

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRxzCbuiCxi5_h9p0Br12lVGhNIj7mFEvHOoY2-NPSWRgakITO6uw (http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=pom+pom+gun+anti-aircraft&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&docid=fUr8PcITeSM7RM&tbnid=KCMRL8haECvgfM:&ved=0CAUQjRw&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.seayourhistory.org.uk%2Fgallery2%2Fmain .php%3Fg2_itemId%3D9688&ei=wyMyUeboC-n-mAXyr4CACQ&bvm=bv.43148975,d.aGc&psig=AFQjCNHAKkuWRRJqFrlRhKQLIXwrPWxYPw&ust=1362326796770730)

DX Wombat
2nd Mar 2013, 15:35
The width of the cardboard ring (not the diameter) determines the diameter of the pompom and the size of the central hole and amount of thread used, the density of it.

G-CPTN
2nd Mar 2013, 15:37
how crucial is the ratio between the outer diameter of the card and the size of the inner hole?


If the inner hole is too small you will have difficulty in threading the wool through evenly.

The diameter of the outer disc will determine the overall size of the pompom.

Too large an inner hole will result in a rather odd shape for the finished pompom before you tie the core, and will influence the finished diameter after you have secured the centre of the ball.

wings folded
2nd Mar 2013, 15:40
This query has absolutely nothing to do with American Cheerleaders in various states of undress.....http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/wink2.gif


Nor, I suppose with what anitpodeans may elect to call other people.

Pelikal
2nd Mar 2013, 16:02
DX, surely these are the same?

The width of the cardboard ring (not the diameter) determines the diameter of the pompomWings, ha!:ok:

Spoken to 85 year old Mum, I now have detailed instructions.

wings folded
2nd Mar 2013, 16:12
Spoken to 85 year old Mum, I now have detailed instructions.


Always ask mum first (assuming you still have one)

They generally know everything and inform you gently.

For manipulation of today's telephones, however, look to the other end of the age spectrum. Grandchildren know an aweful lot about them.

Pelikal
2nd Mar 2013, 16:25
Wings, my Mums recall ability never ceases to astonish me. I will embark on the great Pom-Pom venture with much haste.

Milo Minderbinder
2nd Mar 2013, 16:38
Make your own pom poms (http://www.kid-craft-central.com/pom-poms.html)

How to Make a Pom-Pom (http://www.knitting-and.com/knitting/tips/pompom.htm)

How to Make Pom-Poms - Making Pom-Poms (http://knitting.about.com/od/learntoknit/ss/pom_poms.htm)

Blacksheep
3rd Mar 2013, 06:34
Oh! I thought this would be about anti-aircraft weapons.

Erwin Schroedinger
3rd Mar 2013, 06:48
Here's some nice ones...

http://i.usatoday.net/communitymanager/_photos/the-huddle/2012/03/20/vikmanisx-inset-community.jpg

Slasher
3rd Mar 2013, 06:50
'bout time! :ok:

I misread the thread as porn-porns... you know like din-dins.

Pelikal
3rd Mar 2013, 09:45
Slasher, 'bout time! http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/thumbs.gifCouldn't agree more. Would like them two for din-dins....:ooh:

Edited to add thanks for links, Milo.

Windy Militant
3rd Mar 2013, 10:20
To paraphrase Mike Harding from one of his shows.
When I was a nipper I was out with me granddad and he said looking at a fit young bird
" Ooh I'd love to be casseroled by her"
And I said
"you mean caressed"
and he said
"No casseroled"
and I said
"But granddad casseroled means done slowly for hours"
and he just smiled! :E

Pelikal
3rd Mar 2013, 11:08
" Ooh I'd love to be casseroled by her"

Oh 'eck, all I did was mention Cheerleaders in my opening post.....:eek:

lomapaseo
3rd Mar 2013, 12:05
If the inner hole is too small you will have difficulty in threading the wool through evenly.

The diameter of the outer disc will determine the overall size of the pompom.

Too large an inner hole will result in a rather odd shape for the finished pompom before you tie the core, and will influence the finished diameter after you have secured the centre of the ball.

I've often wondered the same about how doughnuts are made in a bakery :confused:

Erwin Schroedinger
3rd Mar 2013, 12:29
If the inner hole is too small you will have difficulty...

Nope, still cheerleaders.

cockney steve
4th Mar 2013, 18:12
If the inner hole is too small

Interesting concept:8

Pray, explain what the "outer hole" looks like.

As a kid, ISTR we used the cardboard tops from the school milk-bottles

(Yes, kids! before they invented foil closures, the bottle-neck flared-outward like a carafe....a small indented groove round it's inner periphery accepted said waxed-cardboard disc, which had a perforated crescent in the centre....one could poke it down and then pour or insert a straw or poke fingertip into hole and hoick out the disc.

complete the circular cutout of the centre-"tab"....repeat. wash and dry and place together....then wind wool from centre to rim and back through centre, radially. repeat until a large bodkin/darning-needle is needed to push the wool through the centre. finally cut round centre of periphery, separate the 2 discs enough to slide a strong thread between them...wrap-round, tighten and securely knot.....finally tear the cardboard formers away and voila! your wooly -ball.

hole is important to be sized relative to the OD....too big and , if properly wound, you'll end up with an ellipsoid "rugby ball"

too small and you'll have a straggly specimen with a gap round the centre, akin to an ill-tied bundle of firewood.

Doughnuts are made with the aid of a funnel-shaped batter-reservoir with a short ,wide-aperture spout a centre-plug is arranged to be trigger-controlled the operator holds it over the hot fat, pulls the trigger for an appropriate time and upon release, the plug blocks the spout and severs the exuded ring of batter which drops into the fat below.....there are automatic machines available with a chain-conveyor through a bath of fat. partway along, a spatula flips the doughnut over to continue cooking on it's way to a discharge-ramp....it's customary for a tray of sugar to be at the landing-end...wasted a lot of my youth ,gawping at these and candy-floss machines in action!
note---doughnuts are no use in the making of wooly balls!

probes
4th Mar 2013, 18:50
http://blog.myfdb.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/06/Tulle-creations.jpg

men in tulle, Paris Fashion Week

Pelikal
5th Mar 2013, 00:19
Pom-Pom done, turned out larger than expected.

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g412/RobJHP/Pom-Pom/Pom-Pomcheer_zpsce87cff6.jpg

Must have used feet and not inches.

cockney steve Pray, explain what the "outer hole" looks like.hmmm, makes one wonder, anyhow said pom-pom turned out remarkably spherical considering 1st attempt in over half a century.

sitigeltfel
5th Mar 2013, 05:58
The guerilla knitters (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leicestershire-21659158) have a cunning plan to reduce crime. Yoghurt knitters, more like. :ugh:

MagnusP
5th Mar 2013, 10:09
Hmmm. MrsP was making a pompom the other evening. I had assumed it was for the fair isle hat she just knitted. It must actually be for a new home defence installation as we aren't allowed handguns. :E

Pelikal
6th Mar 2013, 22:15
Well, I'M BACK!!

http://i1100.photobucket.com/albums/g412/RobJHP/Pom-Pom/SUPERPom-Pomflat_zps4390c7aa.jpg

Us Poms-Poms do not take kindly to being strung up just so pigeons can [email protected] on us. There will be revenge....