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Rwy in Sight
25th Feb 2013, 16:16
Although, I think we may have to create a thread for films, I just like to ask our fellow PPRuNers if they have seen the film and what they believe. I like to see it this week and I like to have some opinions beforehand.

Rwy in Sight

mixture
25th Feb 2013, 16:40
I like to see it this week and I like to have some opinions beforehand.

What sort of grammar is that ? :(

I have not seen it, but I would hazard a guess is what you would expect from Hollywood.

rgbrock1
25th Feb 2013, 16:47
Rwy:

I've seen it. It's okay I suppose. Doesn't make the U.S. look too good with the depictions of torture in the film.

On the other hand, it allowed me to view Ms. Jessica Chastain. Enough, in and of itself, to see the film!

Go ahead and see it if you get the chance. It's not bad at all. Some Hollywood-isms thrown in for good measure but it comes across, in general, as being pretty realistic.

Lonewolf_50
25th Feb 2013, 18:05
If you get a chance to see the 60 Minutes from last night, or a repeat of it, with the author of "No Easy Day" please do so, Interesting discussion with someone who was there, all of his problems with NDA and security not considered.

dead_pan
25th Feb 2013, 18:06
Complete tosh. The story was terribly contrived and inaccurate in parts, and the action sequence at the end leaden. I thought the SEALs were famed for their speed and aggression - these guys just seemed to amble around.

Not really a big Bigelow fan - I thought The Hurt Locker was an affront to US armed forces in general and their bomb disposal specialists in particular. If she carries on like this she won't be getting much in the way of co-operation for her films in the future.

Rwy in Sight
25th Feb 2013, 18:09
I am on an austerity program regarding commas hence there is a comma missing from the phrase. However commas are syntax related items I am still checking the grammar aspect. :\

I suspect I have to build the phrase again stating something like:
"Given I plan to see the film this week, it would be great if any fellow PPRuNer would be kind enough to share his/her opinion about the movie." Obviously I have already asked a friend who teaches English to check my grammar and your help would me most appreciated.

Besides that rgbrock1 and mixture thank you for the taking your time to write the comments.

Rwy in Sight

rgbrock1
25th Feb 2013, 18:18
Rwy:

I wouldn't worry all too much about grammatical mistakes.
Some here seem to have a problem with chronic hemorrhoids.

Lonewolf_50
25th Feb 2013, 19:33
I thought The Hurt Locker was an affront to US armed forces in general
dead_pan: tend to agree. Hollywood and reality rarely meet. Their mission is to tell stories, not necessarily tell the truth. ;) This director has been commercially successful. There is little reward, on this earth, for telling the truth. (In the commercial sector, at least ... )

500N
25th Feb 2013, 19:36
Agree.

If you watch Hollywood movies based on real life,
you need to take a big dose of salts with it.

dead_pan
25th Feb 2013, 20:03
Yup but why do they insist on portraying your troops as egotistical meat-heads? A bit of nuancing wouldn't go amiss.

Buster Hyman
25th Feb 2013, 20:16
Haven't seen Argo, but I just read somewhere that the CIA didn't do it, it was a Canadian that got them out?

Is now a good time to mention U571???

chuks
25th Feb 2013, 20:36
U571 is part of the true-to-life story of how the USA won World War II! Thank you for asking, and yes, of course you can mention it.

You know that War of 1812, when the Brits burned our White House and peed on Dolley Madison's turkey? When that is taught in American schools they usually do not bother to tell that Great Britain was also involved in a certain amount of bother with that Bonaparte chap.

The other day, I casually mentioned the Battle of Bennington, fought between Americans and Germans, for the most part. Those kids thought it was Americans fighting Brits, but, no, it was German troops who had been hired out to fight Indians but found themselves fighting Americans. I don't think they believed me when I told them it was Germans we were up against, along with some Loyalists and some Indians.

I saw Zero Dark Thirty and was not real happy with the way the movie showed us offing Osama thanks to information that came from torture, since that part is supposedly false.

Also, that bit where our guys are just calling "Osama... Osama..." until Osama pops his head out and gets drilled... that was his son they did that way, according to the latest leaked top-secret information.

Also, they didn't show how our President was flying one of the helicopters or something. Anyway, I know that he was part of the team.

brickhistory
25th Feb 2013, 20:37
Meh...

It was ok.

Not bad, not great. Certainly not the worthy of the hype.

Buster Hyman
25th Feb 2013, 20:58
Hmmm...don't know much about Domestic disputes, sorry Chuk. Anyway, good on you for defending Hollywoods track record, which I believe was the overall tone of the thread, in military type films.

thing
25th Feb 2013, 21:05
Yup but why do they insist on portraying your troops as egotistical meat-heads? A bit of nuancing wouldn't go amiss.

I worked with the US armed forces a bit when I was in the mob, who for the most part were genuinely great guys, generous to a fault. However they had some weird attitudes. Not wrong particularly, just so different to ours. They tended to believe all the crap they were fed unlike the Brits, who take it for granted they are being lied to.

I must admit there was more than one moment when we had to do a double take at the odd comment they would make, you know, the sort of sidelong glance at each other that says 'Did I really just hear that?'. However, vive le difference and all that, I'm sure they found us just as weird.

What was it Churchill (who was half American) said? Something about two completely foreign countries joined by a common language? Something like that anyway.

con-pilot
25th Feb 2013, 21:15
Something about two completely foreign countries joined by a common language? Something like that anyway.

No, it was more on the line of, 'Two peoples separated by a common language.'

T'was the truth, as I lived that twice, when I moved to England from the US and then when I moved back to the US six years later. :p

The actual quote is:

The United States and Great Britain are two countries separated by a common language.

By George Bernard Shaw, not Churchill.

Hmm, guess he didn't know about the rather large ocean. :E

thing
25th Feb 2013, 21:15
I stand corrected. I'm sure Churchill used it though.

Edit: did you mean lager ocean?

con-pilot
25th Feb 2013, 21:17
I stand corrected. I'm sure Churchill used it though.

I would not doubt that what so ever. :ok:

Edit: did you mean lager ocean?

Only if. :p

I'll go back and fix that. thanks.

Buster Hyman
25th Feb 2013, 21:26
Rats. I was just starting to organise an expedition to the Lager Ocean. :(

thing
25th Feb 2013, 21:30
I think lager ocean has a better ring to it actually.

Dushan
25th Feb 2013, 22:05
chuks, you weren't supposed to mention the war.

Matari
26th Feb 2013, 02:15
Can't wait for Europe's finest directors...Truffaut, maybe, or Almodovar, to do some filum on outstanding European military victories. Maybe "Saving Private Rwanda," or "High Noon at Srebrenica?" This thread would be all gaga then I'm sure, what with all the meatheads those could produce.

stuckgear
26th Feb 2013, 07:37
to do some filum on outstanding European military victories. Maybe "Saving Private Rwanda," or "High Noon at Srebrenica?"


If it's funded by the EU, it'll be all pomp and high drama on the opening credits soundtrack, then fade to black with the word 'fin' and then three hours of closing credits.

PLovett
26th Feb 2013, 07:50
For those who thought Zero Dark Thirty showed Osama being offed as the result of torture I suggest you go and watch it again. It really showed no information being gained by torture but rather by some very dogged intelligence work over a long period of time.

For those who thought the action sequence at the end was leaden I suggest you do some reading about how special forces really operate rather than the shoot-em-up style of Hollywood.

I thought it was a good film.

Load Toad
26th Feb 2013, 08:15
I watched Hurt Locker the other night for the first time - it won an Oscar apparently...must have been in the Cowboys & Indians category. Total BS.

dead_pan
26th Feb 2013, 08:47
For those who thought the action sequence at the end was leaden I suggest you do some reading about how special forces really operate rather than the shoot-em-up style of Hollywood.What, you mean something like this?

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After heli-assaulting OBL's compound the SEAL team is hardly going to mooch around as they did in the film - speed and aggression are the order of the day. I think Bigelow tried to draw the assault out for dramatic effect.

rgbrock1
26th Feb 2013, 12:30
For those who thought the action sequence at the end was leaden I suggest you do some reading about how special forces really operate rather than the shoot-em-up style of Hollywood.I think I know a little bit about how SF operate. And, no, they do not operate as depicted in the subject film. Lolly-gagging is never an MO of any good SF stick. As stated above: speed, the element of surprise/shock and overwhelming aggression are indeed the order of the moment.

500N?

dazdaz1
26th Feb 2013, 14:37
Watched the new Bond film Skyfall the other night on dvd, can't understand what all the hype was for:confused: Really slow start for the next 35-40 minutes not as much wizz bang as previous Bond films, no exotic locations in fact it's the bottom of my list of Bond films.

Daz

500N
26th Feb 2013, 15:06
rgb

I haven't seen the film, only read the book so until I see the film,
hard to comment.

But agree with your second comment. Over whelming aggression
doesn't mean guns blazing all the time though which is what I think
some think - like the games kids play now :O

500N
26th Feb 2013, 15:13
"What, you mean something like this?"

The day the American's sat up and realised, "Oh, that's how it's done" :O

Hey rgb :O

rgbrock1
26th Feb 2013, 15:17
Hey, 500N?

http://www.dreamstime.com/little-boy-sticking-out-his-tongue-thumb6756428.jpg

brickhistory
26th Feb 2013, 15:20
Watched the new Bond film Skyfall the other night on dvd, can't understand
what all the hype was for


Concur.



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Slasher
26th Feb 2013, 15:33
Slightly off topic but an assault could take up well over a week.

In the RAAF ATC - when we were being taught jungle manoeuvres - the DI described how 2 Japs took 10 days
to crawl up on a US gun post on one of those islands near Rabaul. At any rate the Japs were crawling through
the bush moving at a rate varying between 3-4ft in the initial stages to 2-3 inches a day. This of course gave
the visual impression of there being undisturbed foliage hour to hour, day to day. It wasn't till they were 10ft
(yep 10 feet - that's how bloody close they got) from the post when they opened fire.

Fortunately only one soldier was killed and the Japs were both minced in a split second. But 10 days without
being able to eat, drink, nuthin' - and not being able to move with bugs biting all over - I do have to admit IS
discipline.

tony draper
26th Feb 2013, 15:41
Last time I watched a filum at the Cinema Gabby Haise got the girl.:rolleyes:

chuks
26th Feb 2013, 16:17
The element of surprise/shock, overwhelming aggression, and fanatical devotion to the Pope! That's why nobody expects the Spanish Inquisition!

dead_pan
26th Feb 2013, 17:37
Watched the new Bond film Skyfall the other night on dvd, can't understand what all the hype was for

Concur twice.

Its saving grace was the very end (no, not the credits). They could have completed the 'franchise there and then on a relative high. The way would still have been open to do all manner of spin-offs a la Star Wars like "Bond: The Early Years" or "Bond Pops Round to the Cornershop to Buy Some Milk and Golden Grahams".