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29th Jan 2013, 11:13
A team of French scientists has started clinical trials on humans for a potential HIV/AIDS vaccine.

Chief Scientific Officer at Grenoble-based PX’Therapeutics Nicolas Mouz said: “We’re developping a vaccine against HIV, using a protein of the HIV virus called GP41.

29th Jan 2013, 11:39
???? Only link I can find for that report is dated May last year (http://www.euronews.com/2012/05/24/hiv-vaccine-on-trial/)?

Did find this report from December (http://www.londoncommunitynews.com/news-story/1489302-2012-newsmaker-made-in-london-hiv-vaccine-offers-hope-for-all-humanity/) though. It would seem multiple teams are making progress.

29th Jan 2013, 12:01
Yes, the article is in French, probabely not available in English yet. Above it was an article written few months ago.
French scientists (Luc Montagnier) discovered first HIV in the early 80s. It just make sense they are a bit more efficient with their HIV vaccine ;)

29th Jan 2013, 13:26
French scientists (Luc Montagnier) discovered first HIV in the early 80s

It would have been courteous also to acknowledge the American scientist Robert Gallo.

29th Jan 2013, 14:03
La France, ubber alles... ;)

29th Jan 2013, 15:15
Well, as it started there....:)

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Milo Minderbinder
29th Jan 2013, 20:16
"clinical trials on humans" is going to have some interesting ethical issues.....presumably vaccinate someone not infected and them tell them to go off and try to get infected.....
generally vaccines are preventative, not curative.
Nowadays we don't have the ethical freedom to repeat the risk Jenner took over smallpox

air pig
29th Jan 2013, 23:16
As Milo says, it's an ethical minefield unless they do the trial in a country which does not place medical ethics at the top of its priorities and look to the income that can be generated by such trails. Remember Thalidomide, tried and tested on animals, worked well until the devastating effects of humans start to be revealed. Now used for Hansens disease (Leprosy) with great effect.

30th Jan 2013, 01:31
MagnusP: it would have been courteous for the American Robert Gallo to admit the French Luc Montanier discovered HIV first, thing that Robert Gallo never could admit. He wanted to be the first one. The scientific argue (filed by the United States Department of Health and Human Services) was set like that: alright, you discovered it (HIV) together at the same time haha! True story. We don't wait to rewrite history now anymore, we do it immediately!!!
Thing is, Luc Montanier discovered HIV first. Why is that such a big deal?

Jean-Claude Chermann is a French virologist who played a major role in the research team which, by 1983, headed by Luc Montagnier, had discovered the causative virus. It was named lymphadenopathy-associated virus, or LAV. A year later, a team led by Robert Gallo of the United States confirmed the discovery of the virus, but renamed it human T-lymphotropic virus type III (HTLV-III).
Yes, truth is that the French scientists discovered it close to 1 year before.

Anyway, 30 years later, who got the Nobel Prize for discovering HIV?
Luc Antoine Montagnier (born 18 August 1932 in Chabris, Indre, France) is a French virologist and joint recipient with Françoise Barré-Sinoussi and Harald zur Hausen of the 2008 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine for his discovery of the human immunodeficiency virus (HIV).Now is my question MagnusP: did the American Robert Gallo receive the Nobel Prize for discovering HIV? Because the French Luc Montagnier did. It should ring a bell.

30th Jan 2013, 02:06
Montagnier was surprised that Gallo was not a co-winner of the prize. Relates to some minor detail about HIV causing AIDs that Gallo discovered, and Montagnier had disputed.

And KAG, before the Marsellaise rings too loudly in your ears, there are multiple HIV vaccines in process. UK, USA, Canada and others....let all the researchers compete, and let's hope one succeeds quickly.

And if you are concerned about the disease, you might give a small thanks to a certain US ex-President who did more than any other politician to fight the disease in Africa. Just a thought, doubt it registers.

30th Jan 2013, 09:19
Thanks, Matari, you made all the points I was going to. Cheers.

green granite
30th Jan 2013, 10:09
You should know, MagnusP and Matari that KAK doesn't do anything American, it's the home of big agrochemicals. :E

30th Jan 2013, 10:22
Don't you all know by now that the French invented everything first?

30th Jan 2013, 11:01
Milo says:
"clinical trials on humans" is going to have some interesting ethical issues.....presumably vaccinate someone not infected and them tell them to go off and try to get infected.....

Certainly there should be well-seasoned statistics available for the propensity and timing of new-infection incidence for partners, relatives, etc. of AIDS-carrying persons. The same folk would be natural candidates for immunization anyway, and likely inclined toward cooperativeness, so thus a near-ideal population for quick & early testing of the vaccine prototypes. No?