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Fox3WheresMyBanana
19th Jan 2013, 21:31
Algerian Hostage Crisis
"There is no justification for taking innocent life in this way. Our determination is stronger than ever to work with allies right around the world to root out and defeat this terrorist scourge and those who encourage it," Mr Cameron said.
(my emphasis)

Wikileaks: Saudis 'chief funders of al-Qaeda' - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/wikileaks/8182847/Wikileaks-Saudis-chief-funders-of-al-Qaeda.html)

Britain has struck an agreement to supply Saudi Arabia with Typhoon jets in a deal worth an estimated 8 billion pounds (about 13.9 billion US dollars) to the UK's biggest defense company, BAE systems.

There seems to be a certain level of inconsistency between these statements and actions.

racedo
19th Jan 2013, 22:50
This goes back to Afghanistan.....................believe it or not.

CIA recruited Muslims for Holy war against USSR in Afghanistan. When Russkis left the Mudja's went back home, however the returnees were now well versed in radical Islam and formented revolution at home.

Given their desire under (FIS) Islamic Slavation Front party to have One Election One Vote One Time as expressed by US Diplomats. The Army decided Non and to avoid this a Coup occurred.

FIS along with GIA (Armed Islamic Group) became involved in a bloody civil war.

France provided lots of logistical and other under the radar support to Algeria along with quite a number of other countries (Tunisia / Morocco etc) where the returning Mudja's were trying to forment a war.

Mudja's had of course been supported and bankrolled by Saudi's in Afghanistan, not all went home of course, some stayed under umbrella of Taliban.

France and Algeria protested on a number of occasions about UK Govt harbouring members of the GIA in the early 1990's even though they were known terrorist leaders. UK Govt pretty much did little.

mutt
20th Jan 2013, 04:28
Taken from your link....

The tiny kingdom of Qatar, which was last week granted the right to stage the 2022 World Cup, was singled out as the "worst in the region" in terms of its co-operation with the US. Qatar's approach on militant financing is "largely passive," and its security services "have been hesitant to act against known terrorists" because they fear being seen too close to the United States, the memo said.
Kuwait, which was saved from Saddam Hussein's invasion by US-led forces in 1991, was a "key transit point" for funds that were threatening stability in Pakistan and Afghanistan and targeting coalition soldiers. It dismissed US requests for help in limiting the activities of a charity as "draconian" and based on weak evidence.

How much effort did the USA put into stopping Noraid contributions prior to 911?

To give credit where it is due, the Saudis did set up a National Intelligence agency since that report in 2010, they also have banned collecting money outside mosques without permits, cut down on the ability to transfer money without identification, cut down on the ability to own a telephone chip without identification. In other countries there would be screams about removing civil liberties, but one has to admit that they are trying.

Mutt

sitigeltfel
20th Jan 2013, 06:06
There seems to be a certain level of inconsistency between these statements and actions.Every consideration, when dealing with the Middle Eastern states, has one caveat.....

They have the oil.

Load Toad
20th Jan 2013, 06:52
This goes back to Afghanistan.....................believe it or not.

I'd be tempted to say that it goes back to Operation Ajax in 1953 - whilst another argument would be it goes back to the treatment of the Arabs after WW1.

But as mentioned - they do have oil.

hellsbrink
20th Jan 2013, 07:16
Algerian Hostage Crisis
"There is no justification for taking innocent life in this way. Our determination is stronger than ever to work with allies right around the world to root out and defeat this terrorist scourge and those who encourage it," Mr Cameron said.
(my emphasis)

Wikileaks: Saudis 'chief funders of al-Qaeda' - Telegraph

Britain has struck an agreement to supply Saudi Arabia with Typhoon jets in a deal worth an estimated 8 billion pounds (about 13.9 billion US dollars) to the UK's biggest defense company, BAE systems.

There seems to be a certain level of inconsistency between these statements and actions.

Your post implies Saudi GOVERNMENT involvement in the funding and support of terrorism, when your link clearly states something different.

It might be better if you reworded things, for the UK is not doing a deal for Typhoon jets with private individuals, same as the Saudi Government is not handing out the cash to these terrorists......

sitigeltfel
20th Jan 2013, 07:44
same as the Saudi Government is not handing out the cash to these terrorists......

Just as the US government didn't hand cash to the IRA. But that didn't stop them from turning a blind eye to prominent citizens who did.

hellsbrink
20th Jan 2013, 08:24
And, as the report says, the Saudis have been clamping down but if someone is handing over a bag of cash in a crowded place it's hard to stop it happening, same as people would go around pubs with buckets to collect money "for the cause" in Kilburn but that didn't mean the British government was supporting or funding the IRA either just because nothing was done to stop it