Qantas Link Dash 8 at YSBK

[Stikybeke]

So today (Saturday 190113) at AEST1100 I saw a Qantas Link 200 series Dash 8 parked up at YSBK? Anyone know what was happening here? This is a first that I'm aware of and it was parked up near the terminal bldg. I know it was probably a private charter or something but a Dash 8?

Someone's got some money.....

Stiky
:)

[CPT733]

Is it still there? Takes me about 30min to get there would love to get a pic of it!!

[Stikybeke]

No mate....gone. Shirley, someone must know something, this is most unusual...

Stiky
:confused:

[CPT733]

I knew i should of went for a joy flight today.... Would have been priceless to see her there or even better seeing her come in on centre.... Any idea what time she landed ill pull down the atc of the net

[PPRuNeUser0163]

it was a diversion, it was operating from Moree late last night on scheduled rpt ops.

And for the record, a qlink Dash8 has diverted to BK before, for similar reasons I believe (weather- wind related)!

[CPT733]

strange i found this on flightaware DEP YSBK went back to sydney apprently

QLK715 DH8B Sydney (YSSY / SYD) 11:11 EST 11:26 EST

[CPT733]

Thanks NKAND :ok:

[Stikybeke]

Ah...a diversion...thanks guys. Mystery solved. I promise not to call either of you Shirley any more....

Stiky
:ok:

[PPRuNeUser0163]

Turns out the reason for the diversion was that QLK193 had a estimated landing time Sydney which was just after curfew which meant it would have to use the curfew hours runway (34L) which had a 25 G 38kt tailwind component.. How an exception for one aircraft cannot be made is beyond me, stupidity!

[Hugh Jarse]

There's no stupidity, nkand if 2193's estimate was post-curfew. They would have planned either a downwind landing on 34L, or an alternate.

Qlink has operational approval to land after curfew on 34L. However, only with a maximum tailwind of 20kt.

I have had a similar experience. ETA SY of 2315 local. Arrive in the circuit just as the southerly comes through and have to bug out to BK due tailwind of 25+ kt

Just a bit of bad luck for me, my crew and our PAX. Try getting taxis to go to BK after dark.

Had 2193's estimate for SY been before curfew...........

[Clearedtoreenter]

Try getting taxis to go to BK after dark.

Pretty hopeless most of the time at Bk. So what did happen to the pax? That place can be pretty desolate that time of night.

[Jack Ranga]

I'd be kipping in that plane after organising a rotation of at least two to keep watch. Unless there were armed guards to escort me to a taxi :cool:

[peterc005]

Bankstown can be scary at any time, especially after dark.

It's a bit like Beruit during the civil war, except if the Lebos don't get you the Islanders will.

[Ultralights]

i think they would be after the PC9 thats there at the moment over the -8

[DUXNUTZ]

Don't know what the problem is, there's a train station a short stroll away! Make the pax use the 'buddy' system and walk hand in hand to the train - easy. :ok:

[Hugh Jarse]

The airline has a responsibility to get the PAX to SY airport.

Without going into too much detail, (and with very little assistance from a recalcitrant OPSO,who dropped the ball and just wanted to go home), I managed to get a couple of cabs there. Some got friends/family to pick them up, and the lazy OPSO eventually phoned QF Transport and got a bus to bring the remaining PAX and crew back to SY. We arrived back about 0345. You can work the rest out.

As for the ethnic remarks, I won't go there. Suffice to say there was no sign of life on the airport, apart from a night shift in the Pac Av hangar. I didn't feel unsafe at any stage.

[bentleg]

Don't know what the problem is, there's a train station a short stroll away!


Sure, a mere 6 kms walk and wait 3 or 4 hours for the next train.

[Ando1Bar]

It's a bit like Beruit during the civil war, except if the Lebos don't get you the Islanders will.

Peterc005, you're an oxygen thief on this forum with the rubbish you post. Now it appears you're a racist as well...

Back to transport, I learnt the hard way one night which taxi company to use at Bankstown airport. After trying the bigger companies and waiting close to two hours for no one to arrive, I tried Legion Cabs and had someone there within 10 mins. Used them since and never had a problem.

[Howard Hughes]

Bankstown scary? You blokes need to toughen up! ;)
What would be the largest aircraft to have landed at Bankers and what would be the maximum it could handle?
Bankstown can handle code 3C (think large corporate jet). However the Convairs that operated in there were pretty bloody big!:ok:

[VH-XXX]

I had a scary experience at Bankstown, arrived via taxi at 11pm for a ferry job and my credit card didn't work as it was blocked due to an online overseas purchase so I had no way to pay the $50 fare; tried another card and his machine didn't work. The Asian taxi driver was threatening to beat me up and stab me if I didn't pay quickly so he had to drive me to an ATM at some dodgey servo that you couldn't actually walk into and had to talk to the guy through a hole in the glass. Yes, Bankstown is dodgey after dark but I'm sure the Qantas bus took everyone out safely. We're not talking Johannesburg here people :-)

[Clearedtoreenter]

Suffice to say there was no sign of life on the airport, apart from a night shift in the Pac Av hangar. I didn't feel unsafe at any stage.

My experience too. Not dangerous at all.... But sooooo quiet, you'd think the world had ended and no one told you.

[VH-FTS]

Another outstanding contribution there from XXX...

...a story that could have happened anywhere and is most likely highly embelished.

I'm not saying there isn't crime in western Sydney, but you white boys need to get over yourselves. Most of the "lebos" you speak of couldn't give two hoots about you.

[j3pipercub]

Threatened to beat you up and stab you? I think you need to get your foot off the exaggerator...

[Howard Hughes]

But sooooo quiet, you'd think the world had ended and no one told you.
Even Mascot can be like that at 3am!;)

[T28D]

Amazing XXX it all seems to happen to you,what an Interesting life you lead.

[Ultralights]

I have been on the ground at Ysbk most fri and sat nights to about 2 am over the past few months, nothing going on here except the occasional police vehicle making sure we didn't have hookers in the building. Or in the carpark. Nothing to worry about.

[TWOTBAGS]

except the occasional police vehicle making sure we didn't have hookers in the building. Or in the carpark

and that was just at the airwing......:E

[aussie_hawk]

Spent the last 29 years of my life living within spitting distant of ysbk, can tell you apart from the odd burnout after dark it is pretty darn quite out here most nights.
Bankstown train station can be another matter, and most of the drive by shootings are nowhere near the airport so generalisations only serve to discriminate and spread fear.

St George cabs are another that will serve the bankstown area, plus I reckon half the cab drivers in Sydney live out this way.

I think the biggest a/c I've seen at ysbk would have to be the HARS super Connie.

[Lookleft]

Anyone who took XXX post seriously take a deep long breath! :ok:

[Flyer517]

I would have thought the Super Connie was the biggest to go in to BK but I am sure a RAAF J model Herc has been in there and Wiki tells me it has a MTOW of 70,300kg as opposed to the Super Connie's 54,400kg.

I guess it depends on what you mean by "biggest" and how much you trust Wiki.

I know whcih one is prettier though :)

[BPA]

Back in the 80's the RAAF had a Herc (E or H)at one of the open days, it was parked near the old Breifing office/Fire Station.

[The_Pharoah]

An RAAF Herc has been in there...I know, I walked around in it - Bankstown airshow back in Sept 2000 (I think it was). Old girl was showing her age.

But yes, Herc in YSBK and was gone the next day.

[Hailstop3]

There's no stupidity, nkand if 2193's estimate was post-curfew. They would have planned either a downwind landing on 34L, or an alternate.

Qlink has operational approval to land after curfew on 34L. However, only with a maximum tailwind of 20kt.

I have had a similar experience. ETA SY of 2315 local. Arrive in the circuit just as the southerly comes through and have to bug out to BK due tailwind of 25+ kt

Just a bit of bad luck for me, my crew and our PAX. Try getting taxis to go to BK after dark.

Had 2193's estimate for SY been before curfew...........

Just wondering how they are 'approved' to land with a 20kt tailwind component? The AFM says max 10kt tailwind, at least in the -100 and -300 it does. Is there an AFM supplement they have? Or is this what you have heard on the grapevine?

And before you bite, not having a go, just genuinely curious.

[VH-XXX]

Amazing XXX it all seems to happen to you,what an Interesting life you lead.

Well I didn't even mention the other time I was sleeping in my hire car outside the Thrifty car rental building (waiting for it to open) just down the road from YSBK airport and the police questioned me because they believed I was pimping.

You just need to get out more and experience life T28D.

[fencehopper]

I remember a Viscount there during a airshow in the early sixties.

[Avturbound]

Biggest thing I seen come into Bankstown is a Convair for turboprop aircraft and a Global Express 5000 which I must say seeing one of those takeoff on 11C at almost max power on the brakes with some more flap then usual was a sight to see!:ok:

As for subject of qlink 200, I have seen probs 2 of those in there over a 2 yr period and also the odd rex saab as well ;)

[Ando1Bar]

I think J3 is getting jealous that no one is mentioning the ATRs that frequent the place in the middle of the night. Probably the biggest regular user.

[VH-XXX]

I guess we often tend to associate the length of the runway with the size of the aircraft capable of landing on it so I guess by saying "What is the largest aircraft" is essentially irrelevant to an extend as it's more a matter of what the taxiways can handle. I know V discussed ATR's into Moorabbin but the taxiways probably weren't ready for them.

[T28D]

XXX
You just need to get out more and experience life T28D.

No I don't I can exist quite comfortably without making up stories to feel good.

[LeadSled]

Folks,
We had an E model Herc. at a Rotary/AOPA fundraiser, about 2000 sound right.
Hercs. were an occasional visitor to DeHavilland over the years.
Tootle pip!!

[VH-FTS]

Next XXX will be telling us he landed an A330 on 29R and pulled off by taxiway R1.

Well, it's not the only thing he's pulling off...

[j3pipercub]

marcuste,

It might be a supp, the metros that used to operate into SY during curfew had an allowable tailwind component of 25kts I think... And if memory serves correctly that was limited by the groundspeed of the tyres.

Ando,

It may be bigger, but your stuff is certainly more 'exciting'... Well only for the next little bit :-)

BK isn't a scary place, it's different. The vast majority of the people in the area are just trying to get by and work hard. I know this as I spend quite a bit of time around the Bankstown/Bass Hill area.

Xxx,

I would imagine sleeping in one's car would get you noticed no matter where you are.

[VH-XXX]

I had a really good experience last time I was at Bankstown. We flew in in two aircraft and wanted to head to the Cross for a night out. We walked out to the carpark to find a taxi and started talking to a bloke who seemed like he was waiting for someone. He then offered to give us a ride into the City. We made a suitable donation and enjoyed the night out. I can only assume he was a local pilot and wanted to help us out.


Give it a rest FTS, don't destroy the thread because you think we live in an ideal crime-free world. I'll send you the police report if you want.

[Jack Ranga]

j3, ever had to go into Bankstown Square??

[VH-FTS]

I never mentioned anything about an ideal crime-free world. The only crime I mentioned was your BS that is continually spread on this forum. It's getting worse, I'm not the only one saying it. You don't have to comment on just about every topic, it gives you more opportunity to sound like an idiot (not that I'm calling you an idiot though). It's a shame because you have a world of knowledge, but how about 'picking your battles'.? I've said my bit, I'll leave you alone now.

[j3pipercub]

Yes Jack, I stayed about 1km from the shopping centre for about 3 weeks.

j3

[Strobe Runner]

AFM 10kts, sup 20kts with certain conditions meet.

[Hugh Jarse]

Just wondering how they are 'approved' to land with a 20kt tailwind component? The AFM says max 10kt tailwind, at least in the -100 and -300 it does. Is there an AFM supplement they have? Or is this what you have heard on the grapevine?No "grapevine stuff". I flew the thing for 12 years. EAA has an operational approval to do so, with certain constraints i.e. flaps 35, RWY 34L etc. Perfectly legal (and safe), if that's what you're asking.

I landed in those conditions maybe 3 times in 12 years. It was not something I did regularly :}

Can't remember much more, as it was 2 types ago :{ CRAFT is catching up with me.

[Jack Ranga]

j3, glad to still have you with us :ok:

[Hailstop3]

Cheers Hugh. Flying the dash also at the moment, early in my career though, on a few hundred on type so still learning lots. I wouldn't doubt it being safe. Interesting stuff.

[CPT733]

hahaha the mentioning of drive by shootings as a security/saftey issue in bankstown or for that fact any other neighbourhood ....... You do realise they shoot at people/houses for a reason mostly drug money related???? They dont wait for pilots or pax to get off at YSBK and think lets go unleash a few rounds for the sake of it :ugh: '
ps: from the northern beaches i have no reason to defend the west its jus common sense

[Nulli Secundus]

Well I didn't even mention the other time I was sleeping in my hire car outside the Thrifty car rental building (waiting for it to open) just down the road from YSBK airport and the police questioned me because they believed I was pimping.

".... Not exactly sure what a pimp is, but I do know Gladys Knight had 3 of them" Elaine Figis