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Gulfstreamaviator
18th Jan 2013, 05:51
Here is a novel thought.

If the problem is keeping a level playing field then why not permit all and any enhancement.

Then the only thing that maters is WINNING.

After all if sport is like war, then winning really matters, coming second is not an option.

Discuss.

Glf

Slasher
18th Jan 2013, 06:05
Some porn stars take Viagra - as the only thing that matters is gettin' it up
on cue and keeping it up, right? So using that logic I cannot see any fault in
your argument.

P6 Driver
18th Jan 2013, 08:58
I'd love to see Drug Enhanced Olympics, Commonwealth Games, Tour de France (!) e.t.c, where drug taking is not only encouraged, but mandatory.

I like the idea that the 100m sprint would be faster than ever and the only problem would be stopping the chap at the end before he goes on to take the 200m & 400m titles as well before the heart bursts.

stuckgear
18th Jan 2013, 09:10
I'd love to see Drug Enhanced Olympics, Commonwealth Games, Tour de France (!) e.t.c, where drug taking is not only encouraged, but mandatory.

I like the idea that the 100m sprint would be faster than ever and the only problem would be stopping the chap at the end before he goes on to take the 200m & 400m titles as well before the heart bursts.


times wouldn't probably be that much different from current. most, if not all athletes use performance enhancing drugs during training, it's only an issue of getting them out of the system, or masking them for the mandatory testing.


Glycogen is the principal fuel for muscles and exhaustion occurs when it is depleted. A secondary fuel, which is much more abundant, is fat. As long as there is still glycogen available, working muscles can utilize fat. Caffeine mobilizes fat stores and encourages working muscles to use fat as a fuel. This delays the depletion of muscle glycogen and allows for a prolongation of exercise.

In addition to the beneficial effects on muscle, caffeine may alter the perception of how hard you are working. During testing, athletes are asked to judge their effort, which is referred to as the rating of perceived exertion (RPE). Some studies have yielded significantly lower RPE's -- less fatigue -- when the athlete used caffeine.

The International Olympic Committee currently lists caffeine as a restricted drug. Urinary levels up to a concentration of12 mg/liter are acceptable, representing casual use. Levels above this are viewed as achieved through a deliberate attempt at doping by the athlete. Approximately 1000mg of caffeine (about 8 cups of coffee) would be required to exceed the current IOC limit, but it is very important to note that people can metabolize caffeine at very different rates. Differences in metabolism, medications, and certain diseases may significantly alter the rate in which caffeine is cleared from the body. Some athletes have come close to flunking the drug test after ingesting only 350mg.

The SSK
18th Jan 2013, 09:33
Why stop at drugs? Why not use any form of enhancement to get from start to finish in the shortest time? Runners v cyclists, or dragsters, even.

As an aside, I have often wondered what would happen to the world record for 1500m/mile if it was run in lanes on a dead straight track, like an unused runway (with the appropriate surface).

MagnusP
18th Jan 2013, 09:56
Well, we've now seen blades used for amputees to compete against whole-bodied athletes. That's clearly an enhancement, so why not drugs?

AlpineSkier
18th Jan 2013, 12:43
Here is a novel thought.

If the problem is keeping a level playing field then why not permit all and any enhancement.

Sorry, not novel at all. Discussed over many pages in the Lance Armstrong thread a couple of months ago.

probes
18th Jan 2013, 12:47
the only problem would be stopping the chap at the end
nope. The problem would be removing the bodies that did not make it to the end - but maybe that would be more educating than the crippling after-effects (or 'mysterious deaths' years after) of the dope-drugs that are not caught on the cameras.

hellsbrink
18th Jan 2013, 13:20
(or 'mysterious deaths' years after)

Hmmm..... Why did Florence Griffiths-Joyner suddenly spring to mind? There was always something funny about what happened to her.....

Sunnyjohn
18th Jan 2013, 14:48
Dictionary definition of 'sporting'
Fair and generous in one's behaviour or treatment of others, especially in a contest:
Alas, those days are long gone and I now equate the word 'Sport' with let's see whose got the biggest ego or can make the most money. On that basis, anything that can enhance a performance, in my view, is fine.

probes
18th Jan 2013, 17:10
There was always something funny about...
dunno if 'funny' is the word... but of course there's always the dilemma of a long and peaceful (uneventful?) life and that of drama... or what would you call that of the celebs of the 60s with their 'recreational drugs'... and would Marilyn Monroe be any more popular if we knew what she'd be like as an old woman (like Liz Taylor)?
All about choices, as the 'another-thread' people like to say.

11Fan
18th Jan 2013, 17:13
Some porn stars take Viagra

Only time I tried it, it got stuck in my throat.

Woke up with a stiff neck the next morning.

rgbrock1
18th Jan 2013, 17:37
You sure the throat and stiff neck problems weren't caused by something else, 11Fan? :}:}:}:E:E

11Fan
18th Jan 2013, 18:22
Fairly certain rg,

In your experience, what else should I be looking for?

Milo Minderbinder
18th Jan 2013, 18:44
Do you really want to go back to watching steroidal musclebound acne ridden East German athletes who have a bigger clit bulge in their knickers than most mens lunchboxes?
And remember, now all those spots and scabs will be in high definition TV

Yuk