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AlpineSkier
5th Jan 2013, 14:12
It's such a curious concept, that you might need a single-sex space to disinhibit you from the pain of making human connections, but Daisy Buchanan, the 27-year-old scenester, part of Awesome Women of T witter (AWOT), explained. "I know I'm being stupidly heteronormative, but even if you don't go out to meet guys, it's always going to be on someone's agenda.

No boys allowed: the rise of single-sex clubs and societies | Life and style | The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2013/jan/04/rise-single-sex-clubs-societies)

I left the rest of the para' in to better help you understand :rolleyes: the sense. AWOT is pretty good too, don'cha think ?

Flap 5
5th Jan 2013, 14:18
Now that women are taking legal action to get access to golf clubs and the like they feel okay about starting women only clubs? Well, well. :hmm:

Fox3WheresMyBanana
5th Jan 2013, 14:43
Twitter Women Against The System might be more apt.


..and no amount of verbal b#llocks will change the fact that they are being sexist.

alfaman
5th Jan 2013, 14:59
Bit late to the party, aren't they :rolleyes: ? My ma's been in the WI since the middle of the last century...

Tankertrashnav
5th Jan 2013, 15:27
Alfaman - if you read Alan Bennett's autobiography he relates that his dad always used to go on WI outings with his (AB's) mum. He was always the only man, and apparently nobody minded, although I don't think he was actually a member.

Personally I agree with Daisy Buchanan on this. Men/women only clubs save you from the relentless unwanted attention of the opposite sex, which I must say becomes tiresome eventually ;)

Victor Inox
5th Jan 2013, 15:28
It's the bottomless reservoir of weirdos that keeps the Guardian writers in business.

AlpineSkier
5th Jan 2013, 15:34
VI

I have to say that I find the Guardian is not more than about 80% mad and that there are both amusing and self-mocking articles: I certainly never expected the latter.

Daisy Buchanan, now there's a name. Do you think she's also Lady Fitzroy-McWalters in another guise ?

Davaar
5th Jan 2013, 15:38
This is a thinking woman's club

So says its own agitprop. It will fail, of course. Remember that wittiest of women, Mme de Stael: "I would gladly give half of the wit with which I am credited for half of the beauty you possess", wrote she to Mme Recamier.

There we have it!

G-CPTN
5th Jan 2013, 15:38
Daisy Buchanan (http://www.sabotagetimes.com/author/daisy-buchanan/).

Fox3WheresMyBanana
5th Jan 2013, 15:43
TTN - agreed. There is a lot of merit in "sexism" in this form. My point being that the Guardian harridans have been treating sexism, no matter how minor, as next to satanism, but are now totally unwilling to admit they are just as guilty.

Krystal n chips
5th Jan 2013, 15:46
" Now that women are taking legal action to get access to golf clubs and the like they feel okay about starting women only clubs?"

Which actually speaks volumes for the stance taken by golf clubs in respect of their bigoted insularity and sexist philosophies towards women, this now being 2013, not 17/18 /1913, as well as confirming why golf, along with it's other arcane rules and "traditions" should be ignored by any sane and rational person.

Frankly, there is nothing more boring than the "all men / chaps " brigade type of meeting, be this social or work related

Over the years, I have had to endure plenty of the latter and found myself, other than when I could actively avoid such, being a less than willing participant in the former.

"My point being that the Guardian harridans have been treating sexism, no matter how minor, as next to satanism"

Nothing quite like a simple dismissive statement, simply because, in your opinion, the issue of sexual discrimination can be classed as minor....there again, to judge from your many and not that varied posts, you have "problems" relating to humanity as a whole anyway.

On the other hand, well done for actually reading the paper...now all you have to do is to comprehend the content...this may take some time I suppose.

AlpineSkier
5th Jan 2013, 15:53
G-CPTN

Thanks for that. I have to say that one of the signs of ageing ( for me ) is that 80% of the people now mentioned on the front page of the Daily Mail ( oh, I only see it when the wind blows a copy past my front window :E ) are completely unknown to me.

Must be proving that either I have forgotten them ( :ok:) or I am becoming more selective as I age ( :ok: )

Davaar
5th Jan 2013, 16:08
there is nothing more boring than the "all men / chaps " brigade

Nothing, Krystal? Would you go that far? Have you never seen "The Winslow Boy", starring (?) Robert Donat?

Krystal n chips
5th Jan 2013, 16:13
Yes, Davaar, I have seen the film, and yes, I stand by my views as to nothing more boring etc.

I have always preferred mixed company and always will.

I also loathe golf after encountering the golf "mafia" at more than one location I have worked at.

Ancient Observer
5th Jan 2013, 16:22
As someone who used to be able to quote large chunks of Marx, and who (stupidly) tried to read some of the French and German philosophers who were around before Marx, and who he brazenly copied, I've always found the Grauniad to be a terrible paper and a terrible read.

Er, stopping in mid-flow for a little comment - why are you all typing Guardian? The paper is called the Grauniad, and always has been).

Some of the multi-millionaire contributors from their nice places in Highgate, Hampstead and Notting Hill are capable of making me want to puke. Preferably on them.

Polly Toynbee covered in luchtime's carrots and greens. Now that would be a good story.

goudie
5th Jan 2013, 16:29
I sing in an all male chorus. Women are not admitted and men are not admitted in our sister chorus.

603DX
5th Jan 2013, 16:36
if you read Alan Bennett's autobiography he relates that his dad always used to go on WI outings with his (AB's) mum. He was always the only man, and apparently nobody minded, although I don't think he was actually a member.



Our local Women's Institute, founded in 1953, has often brought husbands along on social outings. I have been on several mixed bookings to London theatres, visits to stately homes, river cruises, and similar jollies with the ladies of the village WI, and no-one thought it the slightest bit odd. Very enjoyable in fact, the organisation isn't actually run like a nunnery with those of male gender excluded at all times!

Of course, each branch probably makes its own collective mind up regarding the extent of male participation, via the committee system, and no doubt some groups do frown on "too much" mixed socialising. During the periods that my late wife was either president or secretary of the WI, her liberal attitude on the matter certainly led to many mixed events, enjoyed by all.

RJM
6th Jan 2013, 00:24
Daisy Buchanan was a character in The Great Gatsby by F Scott Fitzgerald.

421dog
6th Jan 2013, 00:35
I'll buy it when PEO goes coed

Milo Minderbinder
6th Jan 2013, 01:34
whats a "scenester"
sounds like aging in a sinister fashion

and anyway, whats a man doing reading the Guardian? That long ago became the domain of the gays, extreme left and the clitorati.

Hydromet
6th Jan 2013, 01:39
Our equivalent of the WI, the Country Women's Association, has been known to admit male members, but you have to be a country member.

Davaar
6th Jan 2013, 02:18
I also loathe golf after encountering the golf "mafia" at more than one location I have worked at.

I have symoathy there, Krystal, but can't see that it is worse than R Donat. I just chanced a few minutes ago on the last half of "Le Salaire de la Peur", which I first saw, black and white, about sixty years ago. Jean-Paul Belmondo, I think, and it leaves me convinced on The Winslow Boy and Donat. Happy New Year.

NO!!! Pas du tout! 'Twas Yves Montand

Seldomfitforpurpose
6th Jan 2013, 06:08
In my experience golf clubs have 2 Mafia's, one for each gender and neither very endearing.

The other thing I have often noticed is that the degree to which one despises golf is normally directly linked to how 'spherically challenged' one is :ok:

probes
6th Jan 2013, 10:36
I sing in an all male chorus
isn't it interesting, Goudie, that a mixed chorus is much like marriage - much better to have the 'persons of the opposite sex' summoned for concerts and parties to have fun together with? :E
- the humble opinion of a member of a female chorus (but with experience in the mixed one, too), that is. :)

Hydromet
6th Jan 2013, 20:12
I used to sing in a mixed chorus, but then the women suggested that we should be orchestrated.

At least, I think that's what they said.

Temp Spike
6th Jan 2013, 21:13
Heteronormative? Would that be opposite of Homoabnormality?