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Capt Kremin
2nd Jan 2013, 01:49
Australia's Jetstar on track to overtake Qantas as larger international carrier | CAPA - Centre for Aviation (http://centreforaviation.com/analysis/australias-jetstar-on-track-to-overtake-qantas-as-larger-international-carrier-92683)

If this is the standard of "Analysis" to benchmark CAPA by....

Peter, parroting a Qantas press release is not analysis. Domestic passengers carried in NZ and Australia are NOT international passengers. The fact that Qantas does not disclose their inclusion in their monthly fantasy known as the traffic figures is something for YOU to find, analyse and report upon. The BITRE figures are very easy to read and tell the much different story of the Jetstar international operation. A growth laggard and a seat factor pariah.

Then you have the temerity to post a graph of the actual Jetstar Int routes and guess what? The figures don't even come close to matching up. This is "analysis"??!?

600ft-lb
2nd Jan 2013, 02:55
unless I am missing something, this particular graph caught my eye.
http://centreforaviation.com/images/stories/2012/december/24/JQ-domestic-top-10.PNG

At present, Jetstar has 2 A320 flights a day DPS-PER, or 2520 seats per week.
At present, Jetstar has 1 A330 flight a day OOL-NRT, or 2170 seats per week.
At present, Jetstar has 1 A330 flight a day NRT-CNS, or 2170 seats per week.

something fishy going on here

600ft-lb
2nd Jan 2013, 03:04
In the Australian domestic market, Sydney-Gold Coast offering 30,212 weekly seats and Sydney-Melbourne with 30,024 weekly seats are the biggest Jetstar routes.

Once again.

SYD-OOL is 10 x A320 flights a day x 177 seats = 12390 a week
SYD-MEL varies between 8-10 flights a day, being generous say 12390 a week.

I can see how they might have arrived at their numbers, if they added to the 12390 seats a week, the Qantas codeshares tags and the 32 flights of various sized Qantas aircraft on the SYD-MEL routes we might be approaching what they achieved in their figures. It's hilarious that CAPA take themselves seriously with such easily disputable figures. They must'be gotten the work experience kid to add it all up.

Capt Kremin
2nd Jan 2013, 04:41
As stated elsewhere, approx 55-60% of the quoted Jetstar international traffic is PURELY DOMESTIC traffic in Australia and primarily NZ.

In addition, the NZ numbers are highly suspect because NZ publishes no passenger number details. Crosschecks of the Jetstar NZ schedules incorporating a seat count if every flight and a comparison with the quoted load factor reveal a substantial discrepancy, something Jetstar have been queried about but have failed to explain. It is more than fishy.

unseen
2nd Jan 2013, 21:58
In the Australian domestic market, Sydney-Gold Coast offering 30,212 weekly seats and Sydney-Melbourne with 30,024 weekly seats are the biggest Jetstar routes.

Once again.

SYD-OOL is 10 x A320 flights a day x 177 seats = 12390 a week
SYD-MEL varies between 8-10 flights a day, being generous say 12390 a week.

I can see how they might have arrived at their numbers, if they added to the 12390 seats a week, the Qantas codeshares tags and the 32 flights of various sized Qantas aircraft on the SYD-MEL routes we might be approaching what they achieved in their figures. It's hilarious that CAPA take themselves seriously with such easily disputable figures. They must'be gotten the work experience kid to add it all up.

10 flights a day there and 10 flights back?

Double your numbers?

wheels_down
2nd Jan 2013, 22:04
Dont forget they use the A321 heavily on MEL-SYD, SYD-OOL.