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BEagle
29th Nov 2012, 07:11
The problem of IE8 freezing when PPRuNe pages load seems to be getting worse - the culprits causing this seem to be associated with the tracking cookies used by advertisers on the site. I've noticed that 't.mookie1' seems a particular problem.

This never used to be a problem; however, now that PPRuNe is infested with advertising, it is becoming unacceptably unreliable.

Perhaps there's a way some adblocker will stop this rubbish polluting my computer, but shouldn't the web site owners take more care to sort things out?

green granite
29th Nov 2012, 07:49
There are adblockers for IE8 BEagle, have a look at:

Adblock for Internet Explorer version IE7, IE8, IE9 and IE10 – Simple Adblock (http://simple-adblock.com/)

Saab Dastard
29th Nov 2012, 07:54
IE7Pro works up to IE9, despite its name.

SD

P.Pilcher
30th Nov 2012, 10:45
I've got so fed up with it that I do what I want on IE8 then run Firefox to read PPRuNe. I never seem to see any ads either. I wonder why?

P.P.

Milo Minderbinder
30th Nov 2012, 20:51
AdBlock plus probably......

Saab Dastard
30th Nov 2012, 23:38
AdBlock plus probably......

Not for IE - strangely enough. ;)

SD

Milo Minderbinder
1st Dec 2012, 00:57
unfortunately so....I was referring to P.Pilcher's comment re Firefox

mixture
1st Dec 2012, 14:43
This never used to be a problem; however, now that PPRuNe is infested with advertising, it is becoming unacceptably unreliable.

There are bigger problems to PPRuNe's poor reliability track record than advertising (infact, I would hazard a guess that the ads have no impact on the site reliability).

Saab Dastard
1st Dec 2012, 15:30
Milo,

Understood, sorry!

SD

fantom
1st Dec 2012, 16:49
Glad I'm not the only one. Have to vacate and then reload every time it happens (always).

P.Pilcher
2nd Dec 2012, 10:35
Well, since I installed it as recommended above, adblock for internet explorer has restored stability to IE8 when browsing PPRuNE and it has also done something else which I won't mention here! What I don't know yet is whether, in a month a little popup is going to appear demanding a fee for continued protection. If it isn't too much it may well be worth it.

P.P.

BEagle
12th Dec 2012, 07:59
It seems to be getting worse - this sort of thing appears above the system tray:

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a341/nw969/PPRuNeissue.jpg

then the CPU load rises as the website freezes. Ctrl+Alt+Delete shows 'not responding'.....

This is a total PITA and is probably driven by advertising greed. It is making PPRuNe very difficult to use.

And does anyone ever look at the adverts?

Saab Dastard
12th Dec 2012, 09:08
127.0.0.1 ds.serving-sys.com in hosts file should sort it - unless you use something like OpenDNS, where you could block it at that level.

You might also be able to block it at your router, depending on the model's functionality.

There's probably anti-ad-ware available to you (e.g. IE7Pro) that could probably be tweaked to block it.

SD

BEagle
12th Dec 2012, 14:06
Thanks for your suggestion, Saab D, but it's above my computer knowledge threshold :8 .

Does anyone mention to the website owners that their advertising policies are causing annoyance by freezing and crashing the PPRuNe website when viewed using certain common browsers?

It was never like this in Danny's day......:confused:

Booglebox
12th Dec 2012, 15:24
BEagle: To block the offending Javascript you could try pressing F12 to block it in the IE developer tools. This also avoids having to install extra software to deal with it.
A more drastic approach would be to disable Javascript altogether in IE, or having it prompt you before running it every time on every site - Internet Options, Security, Internet zone, then Advanced or something.
Afraid I haven't got IE8 so can't be more detailed. Best of luck!

Saab Dastard
12th Dec 2012, 15:33
Does anyone mention to the website owners that their advertising policies are causing annoyance by freezing and crashing the PPRuNe website when viewed using certain common browsers?

Deaf ears, as 100% of their revenue comes from ads.

I believe that many people have an ad-free existence (and not just on PPRuNe) by installing ad-blocking software.

SD

p1fel
12th Dec 2012, 15:44
A number of web sites are becoming increasingly almost unusable with XP and IeX8 due to the loading of dammned advertising.
BT Yahoo email is now dreadful for this reason.

le Pingouin
12th Dec 2012, 15:59
C'mon guys! XP is scheduled for termination in 16 months. Time to saddle up a new mount and kiss the old crippled nag goodbye. I feel a parrot sketch coming on.....

green granite
12th Dec 2012, 16:01
BT Yahoo email is now dreadful for this reason.

Never see a thing on there as I use FireFox and addblocker, but it does take some experimentation to get rid of all the adds.

Saab Dastard
12th Dec 2012, 17:47
I have to agree with pingu here.

I've been on Win 7 for a good while now. I've still got a few irritations with Win 7 (particualarly around audio and CD drives), but I've had to use XP recently at a client and it's... sad, really.

Win 7 is so much better (on the same hardware, so like-for-like), and so much more reliable.

SD

BEagle
16th Dec 2012, 08:27
Win XP is fine for most normal folk - if geeks wish to line Microsoft's pockets every time another shiny toy is released, then fine. But contaminating websites with advertising junk which freezes and crashes the site on legacy browsers is hardly acceptable.

Does anyone take the slightest note of these embedded adverts?

le Pingouin
16th Dec 2012, 10:09
BEagle, things move on so legacy starts becoming a problem, but replacing WinXP with Win7 (or something else) is hardly a "shiny toy" approach. The fact is it's old and approaching the end, and as SD says, Win7 is considerably better than XP.

I've been blocking most ads for years, back when they first stared using animated content because it was annoying, so I don't disagree with your views there.

john50uk
28th Dec 2012, 14:01
I've been running Win 7, with Firefox, and Adblock Plus on here for a number of years, and not seen an Ad on here since. :)

mixture
28th Dec 2012, 23:16
Win XP is fine for most normal folk - if geeks wish to line Microsoft's pockets every time another shiny toy is released, then fine.

No, no and no.

Windows XP is now officially EOL (end of line).

In certain circumstances it is in "Extended Support" until April 2014, but this does not apply to "Consumer, Consumer Hardware, Multimedia products or Microsoft Online Services", so for example XP Home won't be covered.

Running a version of Windows that no longer has access to security updates is a big no no if it is connected to the internet. I don't care what security software you are running.... you still need the core OS to be kept up to date.

There is nothing wrong with Windows 7, and Windows 8 isn't that bad.

vulcanised
29th Dec 2012, 11:46
Couldn't disagree with you more, mixture.

You are suggesting that XP is dead and should not be used because of lack of support from M$. I have never accepted any of the security updates on my XP SP2 (as supplied) machine and, amazingly, it's still running OK.

Did you stick religiously to things like "Use only Shell Oil in this car" ?

Milo Minderbinder
30th Dec 2012, 00:08
"I have never accepted any of the security updates on my XP SP2 (as supplied) machine"

Then you're a bloody fool and a liability to the security of the rest of us.
People like you are the saps who allow the modern plethora of malware to exist.

le Pingouin
31st Dec 2012, 10:43
mixture, all versions of WinXP are included in the extended support phase and there is no differentiation based on consumer or business deployment:

Microsoft Support Lifecycle (http://support.microsoft.com/lifecycle/?ln=en-gb&c2=1173)

Aside from that I entirely agree.

BrandiNettIB
31st Dec 2012, 21:07
No need for name-calling here, as we are all in this together. Debate ideas, not the person.

FullOppositeRudder
31st Dec 2012, 22:10
Thank you CleebIB :D

le Pingouin
1st Jan 2013, 12:31
Wheee, an inappropriate car analogy!

A far better one is ignoring OS security updates is like ignoring the safety recall on your car brakes. You might be lucky and get away with it, you might crash and harm only yourself or you might crash and take other people with you. Not a smart thing to do.

OFSO
2nd Jan 2013, 13:30
Slowly but surely, IE on my WIN XP SP3 was grinding to a halt, taking ages to load pages, dithering, freezing, etc.

I did various scans for nasties, deleted unnecessaries, defragged, and everything else suggested on these pages, but the answer was (of course) another browser, in my case Google Chrome, and it works just fine.

Incidently has anyone here used Google Chrome on their Android device, if so why and does it work (and is it worth using) ?