JAA Logbook hours

[pa0507]

I have been flying in south america, mostly in private planes.

I have a JAA CPL.

When I got here I converted my licence and started a brand new logbook with zero hours, so now I have two.

Can I simply register all my hours on the JAA logbook too?

Will they be accepted in europe?

Thank you for your help!

[AdamFrisch]

Your logbook is your logbook, and doesn't have to be separated according to licenses. It's a record of your total flying experience.

I have the same logbook for my FAA as my JAA. Any particulars to satisfy certain license requirements are easily separated. Like for instance cross country between FAA and JAA: I keep tab of which xcountries are over 50NM to satisfy FAA, but also record for JAA. I even have my (very few) helicopter hours in the same book. I used to have a separate book for helicopter but it didn't make any sense, so I transferred them and made a note about it. It's all flying.

[pa0507]

That is true, and I agree with you but I have been told that it isn't as simple as that...

I am going to renew my JAA licence, and I have been told that the aviation authority may bring up some problems regarding my flight hours flown abroad.

Which documents were requested by JAA authorities?

Thank you for your help.

[AdamFrisch]

If you already have a JAR CPL, then your examiner will fill in a form (think it's called 1140 in CAA-land) saying you've received the appropriate Bi-Annaul or whatever it's called in Europe and send it off to CAA. That's what happened when I renewed last year. He will have a cursory glance at your logbook to see that you meet the currency requirements if you claim you do. But the logbooks will never be submitted to CAA, unless you re-validate with a CAA inspector perhaps, but there's no need to do so.

Now, this is all provided your licenses are ICAO compliant. If they're not, then there might be an issue counting that time. Although, flying time is flying time. Maybe someone else better at this can fill that part in.

[flyingswiss]

The real question is, did you flew in South America on a local license and legally logged those hours? ASA makes a logbook that is made to log hours flown under different regulators.

The only issue that I see is the type of logbook, in Brazil they wouldn`t allow me to present the hours I logged on my FAA/JAA logbook, I had to copy all the freaking hours on a CIV, after the first 10 pages I got sick of it and skipped all of them until the last page, none of the ANAC masters noticed anything. I had some students in the US that when they went to Europe they had to switch to a JAR logbook....but none of them ever had problems on any of the hours logged outside EU and reported on the JAR book.

Since 2009 I`m not using a paper logbook, just log everything on logbook pro, have converted into two licenses since then, I just print out my logbook and nobody ever said something...