Helicopters E-Logbook

[212_Nightdipper]

Hello folks,

I want to buy a E-logbook to keep alongside my regular one...the idea is to have a program that beside the Total flight hours, in a couple of clicks can get me certain type of specific information like offshore time, Night, instruments or else and most of it, that allows me to print the hour logging in fashion that can be accepted by the companies when applying for jobs.

I have a Mac and a Ipad, so a program based on these platforms for me is a must....any inputs from the "e-loggers" out there is greatly appreciated!....

Regards

212_ND

[HFM]

I use logten pro.

[Aucky]

+1 for LogTen Pro. Very good program, and great customer support.

[eivissa]

Safelog Pro - to give you an alternative. Available along all computer platforms including Iphone and Android. Not as simple as Logten, but mighty in regard of statistics and added features.

[GS Pilot]

I use Zululog and am happy. Very easy to add custom fields. Don't know about the others.

[TiPwEiGhT]

MCC Pilotlog for me. Easy for iPhone to PC!

[OvertHawk]

Bluelog is worth a look too! will work on pc or mac and is also and iPhone / iPad app.

[love flying]

I'm interested in this subject too but in addition I would like to know FOR SURE that the CAA will accept elogs and, if so, whether their requirements affect the choice of software. Personally I tried a load of them (certainly all those mentioned so far) and found they had too many fields to fill in so I've gone for Google Forms which makes it easy to do fancy reports.

[Brilliant Stuff]

I tried Logten Pro who had fabulous customer support but for me it had to many bells and whistles which stopped me from entering the data I wanted to..
Call me thick...

[Kowalskii]

Logbook Pro. It's fairly intuitive and you can create customized (time, counter, text and yes/no cells) columns such as offshore time, hoist sequences etc. You can also set up currency items or expiry dates for your medical. You can pull all kinds of reports sorted by aircraft type, category or class. You can view and print currency status and history reports, Jeppesen Style and other styles of flight logs. There is a versions for almost any kind of device available on the market and you can synchronize data between those and/or a cloud. Make sure you save a backup on a regular basis regardless of which program you are using. Keep multiple copies of that file on your laptop or external hard drive, email the backup file to yourself or sign up to their cloud sync feature! Nothing sucks more than loosing all your data an a stolen laptop or a crashed hard drive.

[John Eacott]

I'm interested in this subject too but in addition I would like to know FOR SURE that the CAA will accept elogs and, if so, whether their requirements affect the choice of software.

Not CAA, but CASA accept them as long as there is a regular print out which is filed as a 'true copy' unless the eLog is locked with changes being tracked. This was discussed only a fortnight ago, and the rationale from my FOI was that an electronic log can be altered without trace, whereas a hard copy or locked eLog can show a history should it be doctored. As has been found in a number of investigations :=

[Aucky]

Not CAA, but CASA accept them as long as there is a regular print out which is filed as a 'true copy' unless the eLog is locked with changes being tracked

I'm not sure what reason you give to the CAA not accepting them. I have maintained solely an electronic log for the last 3 years (in the UK), and a printed copy with the pages signed has sufficed in company audits, and all FCL matters. I used it with the counter service just last monday for the addition of ratings. It is true that you could technically go back and change your flying history and re-print it, but you don't, besides if you had this nature you could add falsified flights into a handwritten log as you go along... perhaps given that this has to be an acceptable means of logging flight moving forward there might be a commercial edge to a company that design a mechanism to add security in this respect?

Approved regular syncing with a cloud based system (to which the relevant authority has access), which can flag up and log changes made retrospectively to the essential flight information required by part-fcl, making them available for assessment by the authority should they chose to make routine checks whilst undergoing company audits etc (not to prevent the changes being made as they may be legitimate, but to draw attention to those flights in particular should someone wish to determine their authenticity). If the system was thought through and approved one would think that it could update your basic flight history, via the cloud, to your personal CAA account directly - no need for handing in paper copies.

Maybe this would be considered a little OTT and perhaps 'Big Borther'y, but there is nothing particularly private in the basic particulars of logged flights, and we need to make them available to the CAA in any case. If a developer were to discuss is with the CAA (LogTen are you listening), and come up with an acceptable, practical solution, they may just wipe the floor with the others.

[Gordy]

whereas a hard copy or locked eLog can show a history should it be doctored

As opposed to falsifying it on entry.......Is not the whole premise behind logbooks based upon the honor system at entry anyways.....

I remember when I was ten I had my work checked and signed by my parents..... Is this what the world is coming to.....

[JTobias]

Hi

I use Logten pro on my mac, ipad and iphone.
Its absolutely brilliant and I have used tge reports for many submissions to the CAA without any problem whatsoever.

Joel :ok:

[ÞOS]

Hi there!

For those of you using electronic logbook apps what apps are you using? :)

[Sloppy Link]

One that knows how to spell.

[puntosaurus]

HaHaHa. I love PPRuNe ! Excel is my tool of choice.

[whoknows idont]

Like many others I switched to mccPILOTLOG when the guys from LogTen Pro started to become excessively greedy.
There is a couple of very informative threads on here, just use the search function.

[ArrowFly]

Hi there!

For those of you using electronic logbook apps what apps are you using? :)

mccPILOTLOG

[ec155mech]

Like many others I switched to mccPILOTLOG when the guys from LogTen Pro started to become excessively greedy.
There is a couple of very informative threads on here, just use the search function.

+1 I do enjoy that for 75Eur you get the enterprise version and can sync as you please.


you get updates free and support and migration of your old e logbook is superb.

[Flyting]

Safelog by Dauntless software

[Flyting]

Originally Posted by whoknows idont https://www.pprune.org/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (https://www.pprune.org/rotorheads/500360-helicopters-e-logbook.html#post9787721)Like many others I switched to mccPILOTLOG when the guys from LogTen Pro started to become excessively greedy.
There is a couple of very informative threads on here, just use the search function.

Seems like Safelog are following in their footsteps...
One can't say BOO without them wanting to charge:
"We charge $85/hour with a 1/2 hour minimum"

[muermel]

Hi guys. After MCC Pilotlog will be shut down permanently ( I know, ****ty software but I paid for the service so used it until now) soon, I'm looking at other options for an electronic logbook. Anything that is well suited for helicopters?

Bye