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Wedcue
1st Nov 2012, 07:10
Rumour has it, Alliances trading halt is to do with finance for more jets.

They are the last standing RPT Jet and Turboprop outfit in Australia.

Surely they can't stand alone competing with these new alliances forming around them....

startingout
1st Nov 2012, 07:19
Maybe a windup here, but what about Airnorth?

The Green Goblin
1st Nov 2012, 07:26
Airnorth are already tied up with Qantas, so they don't need to buy them :D

Engineer_aus
1st Nov 2012, 15:13
5 Fokkers they are looking for. Qantas and Virgin keep on leasing them. I am surprise that QF don't snap up Alliance to go head to head with Virgin/Skywest. Would give old mate AJ a way out of the INTL game.

mach.865
2nd Nov 2012, 06:12
QANTAS could not afford Alliance. They paid peanuts and bought Network, you know what they say about paying peanuts....result one bent Fokker within months of the take over. Alliance being flying these aircraft for years with no incidents.

Must be doing something right apart from making plenty of dough.

airdualbleedfault
2nd Nov 2012, 09:22
I see the judge, jury and exocutioner has spoken, nice one ace.
I guess the ATSB can put this one to bed then.

Flava Saver
2nd Nov 2012, 12:30
...and the RTO with the pitot covers still on? All kept VERY quiet. :8

Engineer_aus
2nd Nov 2012, 13:15
What happened with the RTO?

Spinnerhead
3rd Nov 2012, 01:44
They are the last standing RPT Jet and Turboprop outfit in Australia.


I thought they were a charter mob, not RPT.

IAW
3rd Nov 2012, 02:02
Some routes are RPT.

apacau
3rd Nov 2012, 03:35
Anyone else see the irony of two posts on pprune on Alliance, one claiming they will be bought out by QF and the other claiming DJ will muscle in? And of course the more likely outcome is that they will stay exactly the way they are. Putting aside their growing and seemingly profitable FIFO flying, they quite happily prostitute themselves to BOTH major airlines, operating east coast RPT flying with surplus F100s...

GAFA
3rd Nov 2012, 06:06
This week JB and SD made it clear to the Virgin Pilots that the Wet Lease arrangement with Alliance will end in FEB as planned and they have no further plans to use Alliance.

Ejector
5th Feb 2013, 09:36
Didn't some big American venture capital group invest heavily in them last year?

Blackstones (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackstone_Group)or a group like them buy out them and Airwork (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airwork) across the Tasman, or became a major share holder?

Someone should update the Alliance wiki page too.

2020Balance
6th Feb 2013, 01:00
This week JB and SD made it clear to the Virgin Pilots that the Wet Lease arrangement with Alliance will end in FEB as planned and they have no further plans to use Alliance.

And when the five new 717s are out of the desert and sitting in Brisbane and Canberra with red tails taking up the current and forcast expansion QF wont have a need for Alliance anymore as well.

Rumour is there are more 717 airframes sitting in the desert and QF can't get their hands on them quick enough.

I cant see why they would buy out Alliance when they are expanding their 717 operation.

RENURPP
6th Feb 2013, 03:20
I think you will find the only 717's that are in the desert are the ones passing through Alice and The Rock, there all flying for some one, hence as available as hens teeth at present.

Going Nowhere
6th Feb 2013, 05:13
Looks like the QQ flights for VA end this Sunday.

PLovett
6th Feb 2013, 05:44
Re 717 availability, aren't the former Airtran aircraft becoming available following the merger with Southwest? Thought I had read somewhere that Southwest had decided not to continue operations with the 717 as it conflicted with their business model of only using 737.

Ejector
6th Feb 2013, 08:58
I was referring to which venture capitalist group bought a huge chuck of Alliance a year or so ago ?

Aquaplaner
6th Feb 2013, 09:03
Re 717 availability, aren't the former Airtran aircraft becoming available following the merger with Southwest? Thought I had read somewhere that Southwest had decided not to continue operations with the 717 as it conflicted with their business model of only using 737.


All the AirTran 717's are going on lease to Delta.
Delta Air Lines to Snatch Up AirTran's Entire Boeing 717 Fleet at NYCAviation (http://www.nycaviation.com/2012/05/delta-air-lines-to-snatch-up-airtrans-entire-boeing-717-fleet/)

2020Balance
7th Feb 2013, 00:01
Apparently there are 8 717's sitting in the desert at present that some start-up operator in Spain has had a hold on for the last 3 years. As Euro has gone to crap this operator has folded releasing the airframes back to the lessor which I believe is Boeing. At the moment Boeing has offered 5 of them to QF which they are grabbing. It's unknown at this stage if Boeing will offer the other 3 to QF. Maybe they have an obligation to other operators to offer them 3 717's who knows. But one things for certain, QF wants as many as they can get. What their master plan is who knows, I'll leave that up to all the experts in this forum.

The third airframe going to Brisbane in March is being crewed from the internal EOI that went out in December. As for the next 5 arriving whenever, I'd say they will need to recruit at least 30 dudes of the street in the coming months. So according to the Sydney refueler the sim in Bne is going to get a good flogging soon.

markis10
8th Feb 2013, 21:39
Still plenty of 717s in storage ex Click, including the last delivery, complete in OneWorld livery.

Victorville Aircraft Storage - AirTeamImages.com (http://www.airteamimages.com/boeing-717__mexicanaclick_157034.html)


Click Mexicana Fleet of B717 (Stored) | Airfleets aviation (http://www.airfleets.net/flottecie/Click%20Mexicana-stored-b717.htm)

Engineer_aus
12th Feb 2013, 11:12
Interesting to see all those engines missing off the 717's.

PT6
4th Mar 2013, 00:07
Smart outfit. They are doing it right.

notmyC150v2
6th Mar 2013, 21:49
Why is an F100 heading off to Algeria?

QQ880 / UTY880 Live flight info - Flightradar24 (http://www.flightradar24.com/data/flights/qq880)

Are all their airframes just being exported?

chewi
6th Mar 2013, 21:53
It's ytee ( trepell) a mine site.