Exclusive rail-link at GLA.?

[Joe Curry]

Should the Scottish taxpayer fund an exclusive rail-link at GLA.?

[EGPFlyer]

2 Points.

1. (from your profile) Livingston isn't in Edinburgh
2. Not one of the responses you give in your poll is an answer to your poll question...surely a simple yes or no is all that is required?

[Scottie]

No of course not Joe. There should only be a rail link to Edinburgh.

That is the answer you were looking for Joe, right? :p :o :p :o

Preferably there should be easy access to both airports so EDI people can get to GLA easily and vice versa. :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[PPRuNe Radar]

As the guys said ..... the poll doesn't have the Yes/No answer that the question demands.

[Radioman99]

Hi
Its also worth noting that there are proposals also for a rail link to EDI.

The M74 motorway expansion is designed for use as a bypass to the City Centre of Glasgow and the Kingston Bridge, which is one of the busiest European river bridges.

The idea of the M74 is to allow drivers coming from south to cut down their travelling time and to relieve congestion within the City.

There should be rail link access for both Airports and a lot of people support this fact.

The poll is unfair and very anti-Glasgow.

The poll should be:

1. Should GLA and EDI have dedicated rail links.
2. Should the Scottish Executive finance the rail links or PFI.
3. Should the Scottish Executive upgrade all major routes in Scotland and improve the A1 and A77 and M74 routes.

That would be a better poll.

regards
John

[brain fade]

On the subject of GLA's rail link. The proposal is to put a junction after gilmour st, but before st James. Build an elevated section across part of paisley and old greenock road. then cross the playing fields and ten lanes of motorway either tunneling or elevated before a right turn into the endof the terminal. This scheme will cost a bloody fortune to do. Planning complications alone will be horrendous. in short it will take about ten years to build. more likely never happen.
Why not simply put a station beside st james roundabout and link it to the terminal with a short light rail link (exactly like the Gatwick north/south one)?

[flypastpastfast]

The nice thing about edinburgh, is the rail line is a few hundred yards from the terminal.

What is astounding is that a rail link at edinburgh was not done before.

The second important point regarding edinburgh, is rail traffic coming down the east coast mainline also runs past the airport. That is a lot of rail traffic.

With limited finances, perhaps there is a necessity to prioritise to projects which could demonstrate the largest impact quickly.

[brain fade]

Flypast.
You may be interested to learn that the proposal for EDI is even grander than GLA's. No less than a re-route of the line to Glasgow which includes an underground station to be sited in front of (and below) the main terminal building. Apparently this is quite a scheme. One wonders how many years will pass before it opens.
The main thing that both schemes have in common is that they ignore the proximity of the existing track to the airports, well that and the expensive ill-thought out nature of both schemes!
It may be a little early to consider travelling to work by train.

[Findo]

The owners of any airport should pay for their improvemnet and make an application for public assistance in the normal way. The Scottish Government can then explain to the public the benefits it brings if it chooses to assist the private operators.

Personally I believe a proper bus link to existing stations would be far more cost effective than either the silly wee buses that run at the moment or spending huge wads of public cash to benefit the private airlines, airport operators and railway companies.

[GustyOrange]

This is quite possible the worst thread that I have ever seen on pprune.

Mr Curry you seem to be forgetting that the only reason that traffic has been boyant at EDI is the current impact of the Scottish "white elephant" parliament costing c£0.25BN in Edinburgh.

Also can we talk about Edinburgh getting its multimillion pound motorway bypass years ago, the Royal yacht which was built in Glasgow being parked in Edinburgh along with just about everything else that the Edinburgh mafia can get their hands on.

How silly that a city which is twice the size (including suburbs) of Edinburgh and has full service airlines flying non stop to New York, Chicago and Toronto should request a rail lik to it's airport.

If the traffic which uses PIK and is forced to use EDI because of the bias in funding motorway links went thru GLA you would not be able to compare these two airports.



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[Blue Boy]

Here, Here Gusty!!

Joe, you've got me interested - What do you actually do?, and why do you continually post on this subject?

I mean, it's all very well to cut and paste from any source that slags off GLA, in favour of EDI, but, surely you must have a more informed opinion on the subject?

Or maybe it's just that chip on your shoulder:rolleyes:

[EGPFlyer]

From this mornings Herald


Glasgow bids for first airport link

STRATHCLYDE Passenger Transport said yesterday it was willing to start preparatory work on the Glasgow airport rail link immediately, without waiting for a guarantee of support from the Scottish Executive.

It said it would invest £500,000 in developing assessments and plans for the project, which it hopes will be in place by 2005.

In a report published yesterday, SPT called on the executive to prioritise funding for Glasgow airport link over one proposed for Edinburgh, claiming it was already at a much more advanced stage of development.

Eric Ross, SPT chairman, said: "The more the SPT looks at the airport rail link project, the more convinced we are that this will be of enormous benefit to the economy of Glasgow and west central Scotland. For that reason, rather than wait for the Scottish Executive, we will press ahead with detailed appraisals to ensure feasibility and lay the foundations for the project to start as soon as it is given the go-ahead."

Yesterday's report puts the expected revenue from the link at between £5m and £10m.

Last month, Wendy Alexander, the transport minister, came under fire after she made a broad commitment to airport links in both Glasgow and Edinburgh, without revealing how much money would be made available or whether Glasgow would get the link earlier than Edinburgh.

[brain fade]

I can tell you, 'cos i know, that the design for the rail link is not yet agreed. The consultants (in London) will make an interim report in May. There will be a full report with a cost benefit analysis out in august. until then precisely zero is likely to happen.
Even if it looks like a feasible plan, it may well founder due lack of money. planning considerations alone are truly formidable.
I suspect it will be a while before the first earthmover is fired up!:rolleyes:

[Hogg]

Ok Guys Try That.

Cheers:rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[nighthawk117]

why should glasgow get an exclusive rail link? EDI is one of the UKs fastest growing airports, and at the current rate of growth will overtake glasgow in 4 years time, if not sooner.

With continental expected to start TX services next summer there is no reason for EDI not to get a rail link. I think both airports should be treated equally and both get a rail link at the same time. Asking for one to get an exclusive link is just plain selfish!

[Buster the Bear]

The bus journey into Buchanan St is a nightmare, worse than the journey from the Luton 'tinminal' to the parkway station at 17:00!