Tiger Job Advert

[volare_737]

Hi everybody . Just saw the Tiger Advert looking for Crew. I am currently in Asia and would love to get back home.
Anybody got ideas on the Pay and Roster ? Would it be possible to commute from Perth to Melb ?
Any input would be great !!!
Thanks

[SHVC]

Pretty sure its for Sydney base.

[grrowler]

Pretty sure it's for MEL and SYD.
Don't work there but from what I know I reckon commuting from PER would be a struggle, you'd be better off (lifestyle and financially after commuting costs) with one of the PER based mobs.

[volare_737]

Would not mind moving to Syd or Melb, as Perth is not a cheap place anyway. Anybody know how much the pay is at Tiger Oz ?

[SenZubEanS]

At least they are up front in their advert advising to "be prepared to fund your own A320 TR"

[SHVC]

They do have base in Melbourne and Sydney but if you follow the link to the Tiger careers page it specifically reads they are recruiting for Sydney base.

[DirectAnywhere]

Ask yourself why, given that they're operating about half the number of aeroplanes they were prior to the grounding, they are advertising for crew. That's all the info you need right there.

[6days]

Half the number of aircraft??. 10 before the grounding, 11 now, 7 in Mel, 3 in Syd and a floating spare.

[intake]

SHVC, if you look on the the career page (via the link) they require flight crew for both MEL and SYD bases. :=

Careers
Please see below for a list of current openings:

Tiger Airways Australia job openings:
Based in Melbourne

Job ID Category Job title Details
AOCC1201 Operations Operations Control Centre Officer view
CN0329154100 Ground Crew Check-in and Ramp Staff view
EN0719133342 Engineering Maintenance Program Approval Employee view
OP0810151256 Operations Rostering Officer view
HR0816093225 HR Head of People & Culture view
CM1005163700 Commercial IT Software Specialist view
FO1009130749 Flight Operations Deputy Head of Training and Checking view
FO1009132317 Flight Operations Flight Crew - Melbourne view
Tiger Airways Australia job openings:
Based in Sydney



Job ID Category Job title Details
IN0723161241 Inflight Cabin Managers - Sydney Airport view
FO1010112802 Flight Operations Flight Crew - Sydney view

good luck to those who apply !!!!!

[hongkongfooey]

From the AFAP website:


Tiger Airways is one of Australia's fastest growing major domestic airlines.

A bit of a stretch ?

[crwjerk]

"Be prepared to fund your own A320 TR"....???? How about this.....Nobody apply for it and wait for THEM to pay for it. Another whore airline helping to drag down the pay and conditions for everybody in this industry. Don't complain about it if you're willing to pay for it yourself.

[DeltaT]

Do you still have to pay for the psychometric testing yourself? was some $270
If successful do you get an actual job offer or a wait and see letter?, subject to you buying a rating...

[pilotchute]

So it's ok for Virgin and Jetstar to make you pay for your own rating but not Tiger?

Before anyone jumps in with the salary sacrifice argument that still means you pay for it.

[AviatoR21]

Well said pilotchute, pretty ignorant aren't they!

[Higs]

Can someone teel me why this thred was moved to the GA section? I would think that any A320 command positions in Australia would be appropriatly placed in the airline thread. Or is it not important to QF and DJ people?

[airdualbleedfault]

Whilst salary sacrafice is still paying for it, it's a hell of a lot easier than coming up with 30 odd K up front, also no risk with the ATO.
Do VB/Jetstar make you pay for you own uniform, car park, food, etc or has this changed at Tiger ?

[3 Holer]

HigsMay have had something to do with volare 737 asking some questions!:ugh:

[volare_737]

Dont post much on here - but whats wrong with asking some normal questions ?

[volare_737]

But thanks for some of the answers anyway !!!

[j3pipercub]

I thought it was moved because paying for your uniforms, work lunch and type ratings does mean its GA...

[avconnection]

Yeah except unlike some airlines there are GA jobs where you don't pay for uniform, meals, travel, dry cleaning, jepps, medicals, headsets, fuel, testing, physicals, travel for interviews or sim-rides.

Not sure I'm aware of any airline that covers that list; So perhaps this thread would be better suited in reporting points and away from GA?

[booskins]

What is the dough for a 320 command with these guys?

[Metro man]

Tiger Airways is one of Australia's fastest growing major domestic airlines.

A bit of a stretch ?

If you have ten aircraft and add three that gives a 30% growth, if you have 100 aircraft and add three that gives 3% growth.;)

[Al E. Vator]

Please tell me at Tiger you don't have to pay for uniform, car parking, Jepps?

[Established]

Jepps are in the aircraft.

[grrowler]

Jepps are in the aircraft

Uniforms as well?

[Captain Biggles84]

Volare_737


i heard the wage went up to around $118K for A320 F/O at beginning of this financial year.. But as stated by some other stuff like uniform and parking might not be included in the Agreement.. So do some research.. Google is your friend :) :ok:;)

[volare_737]

I did - found there enterprise agreement on the web. Does not look to bad. At least for CPt's .

[717tech]

Anyone know what an Operations Controller earns at Tiger?

[rammel]

Last I heard for the 4 day 12hr roster (7am-7pm x2 then 7pm-7am x2) it was about $55,000 and that was including penalty rates. No doubt there would be some overtime, but you can't rely on overtime.

Tiger seem to want experienced people (I know a few with lots of experience, but don't seem to want to pay for it). If it was $55,000 plus shift it would be a better deal.

I know it's a LCC, but it's the old adage, if you pay peanuts, you get monkeys.

[717tech]

Thanks rammel. Much appreciated.

[Pekin Dog]

Has anyone who has applied heard anything (email reply,call) yet?

[rammel]

I did apply for the Operations position and got called for an nterview about a week after I submitted my application (it would've been when the ad ws placed about Aug, maybe). They said they would get back to me one way or the other, and I haven't heard anything as of yet.

I don't know about any of the other positions that were advertised.

[bddbism]

For any tiger crew - is it a career gig (as secure as any flying job can be) or are you there to get the jet time to head o/s?

[DeltaT]

The recruitment agency being used by Tiger is probably making a bucket load of cash from all the pilots applying that meet the min experience but not actually having a chance of getting through.

[volare_737]

Delta - so are you saying the Tiger application form goes to an agency and not direct to Tiger ?

[DeltaT]

Correct, your application is being processed by an agency.

[volare_737]

I wonder if they know anything about aviation. Its not just simply looking at a CV and hours.

[volare_737]

Just read om another thread Virgin buying in to Tiger. Wonder how that will affect the current recruitment drive at Tiger ????
Anybody send them a CV and has heard anything ?

[Maisk Rotum]

Can someone post the link to their E.A. I can't find it on the web. Thanks. Also is anyone living on the Gold Coast and commuting? Any feedback on how it works would be aprreciated.

[volare_737]

Anybody got a reply from Tiger ????

[DeltaT]

Have you not seen the promos on TV for the 'Air ways' TV programme?

"Terms and Conditions apply...actual job may not exist" :}

[Higs]

Ok...This is strange. I assume Tiger are looking for Pilots... I applied some time ago and have 320 command time and I haven't heard boo from them? Not even a "reply from the recruitment company.
Anyone with anything????:sad:

[volare_737]

Same here Higs !!!!

[Falling Leaf]

Same here, e-mailed it all through 3 weeks ago, and nada.

[volare_737]

Higs / Leaf - did you guys apply for left seat ?

[jibba_jabba]

I applied for F/O position.... type rated as well and no answer.

I assume they are swamped, but I had this problem with them a couple years ago as well.

good luck all.

[Higs]

Hi guys, I applied for a position! If it was necessary, I would take a right seat for a while. Have to say I am disappointed with the lack of response, however this is "low cost" and I assume they are somewhat lacking in the staff to process applicants.
You can only take comfort that no one has heard anything at this stage...

[volare_737]

Just checking if anybody did hear anything ?????

[Grivation]

Nope - plenty of airbus time

[74world]

Same here, plenty of Airbus time and current but no reply......very strange I think that no one has heard anything don't you guys agree??? :eek:

[DeltaT]

You do know the Tiger Airlines Australia CEO is changing airlines?
Kinda going to put everything on hold.
Either that or the gals at the recruitment agency are on xmas break :}

[volare_737]

Spoke to the Girl at the agency. She said Tiger is sorting the CV'd first then giving them to the agency. She also said 400 + CV's received !!!!!

[DeltaT]

Fascinating, do you believe that answer?
Lets allow a generous 30secs to give a cv a once over and say yes or no based on a particular experience level they are looking for.
With a spare hour thats 120CVs processed.
People here have posted over a month ago awaiting a reply...

[volare_737]

NO - I don't - but that is what she said anyway !!

[Angle of Attack]

Delta, in short yes , I believe it, unless they actively are looking for crew they are not going pay anyone to even look over the CV'S, even if it means only a few hours work, apply to a lcc carrier expect a lcc reply, its not rocket science,

[Higs]

At last!!!!! Received an e mail and about to start the "process" ($285 for the cost).
So here goes nothing. :sad:

[Di_Vosh]

Lets allow a generous 30secs to give a cv a once over and say yes or no based on a particular experience level they are looking for.
With a spare hour thats 120CVs processed.

ROFL! :rolleyes:

I would sincerely hope that someone spends more than 30 seconds on my CV, even for a "Rough-cut/First cull".

Just saying, what if that 400+ CV's all met the requirements?

In another industry I was the person sifting through hundreds of applications for a graduate entry IT position. It can take longer than you might think.

DIVOSH!

[Pressurevalve]

Hi Higs,

I also received the email from them yesterday…
Any idea what to expect for the online assessment or the interview???

Cheers

[Higs]

Hi there, the money is a charge for conducting the "shysometretic" stuff. It is a 2 hour test on various subjects, however all based on apptitude. Do yourself a favour and go to some web sites that provide you examples before you proced. Then you do a SKYPE interview with the contract recruitment company. I have done this and am now waiting for the "official company interview".
Hope this helps.
Regards
Higs..

[Aussie]

Whats the skype interview involve?

Thanks!

[DeltaT]

So my estimate seems so implausable and laughable, yet on the 13th Dec its a post of overloaded with 400+ cvs, and on the 14th people are getting emails. Cough.
Don't forget its not from CV straight to interview like other jobs, there is the filtering tests inbetween.

Is there a fee for the sim ride?
Is there a holding pool?
Do you get a guaranteed job offer at the end or a wait and see, if you have a rating? (or after you get one)

[volare_737]

Fee for the Sim ride !!!! You are joking !!!
Paying for the online test's is already to much !!!

[KRUSTY 34]

All I can say is, you "experienced" guys must be desperate to get home.

Presumably (by the tone of your posts), high time command experience on the Bus, and yet even at this stage of your careers, willing to stump up to some third party just for the priv of an interview, And even that's not garrenteed!

Although, nice little earner. For some!

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[SOPS]

How many other industries charge you to have a job interview? What have we become??:ugh:

[volare_737]

Shows you - We all like to get home one day !!!!
And it looks like we a prepared to sell our soul for that - Are we ????
You home Krusty ?

[Shagpile]

Supply and demand. If management see 500 CV's of people willing to work for peanuts, they'll pay peanuts.

[TheColonel]

Anyone know what a Tiger FO actually makes first yr? Heard lot of rumours, but any facts out there? Does it compare with JetScare?

[PoppaJo]

About 125k.

20k bonus for every 3 years with the company.

Capt will do in excess of 200k now. With a 30k bonus every 3 years also.

[who_cares]

So what experience do the guys have that are currently getting interviews and are they for direct entry commands or fo slots only

[radical_100]

Got one of these mails too. It says ~ $75 for the assessment. But I'm reading reports here for $285 -- does this mean each round costs $s?

I'm not prepared to pay even the $75 for the initial assessment to begin with - anyone here done the 2 assessments yet (From my understanding of their email)?

[Aussie]

It will be a token effort if you do it, but I have also thanked them for the interview... not paying to get a job when Im already qualified and experienced.

Good luck fellas!:sad:

[morno]

In the application form, it does say that the test is at a cost to yourself. So why waste their time, by applying if you're not happy to pay for it?

morno

[radical_100]

True that. Did the same, pointless to pay this much.

[dreamjob]

It seems like they're "interviewing" anyone who meets the mins (and lets face it, aren't that high!)

I know guys who received the email for the Online Assessment who have no Multi-crew time, let alone Jet/A320 time.

Good little cash cow for them.

[SHVC]

I got an email today for the assessment, I have zero multi crew time with TT3000hrs

[bigbrother]

Hey papajoe, is that accurate on the salary? I'm also guessing the endorsement has to be done by 'their' provider. Alas there's money to be made in the Rating as well. Turn that screw one more time

[volare_737]

That’s disgusting!!!!
But the wheel keeps turning.
I remember guys from Jetstar, Cobham, Rex , and some others sitting in South Africa begging for crew. Lucky everybody is desperate there. Then the financial crisis hit in 2008 and the shoe was on the other side. In America the smaller regionals are already paying sign on bonuses. Asia will be expanding next year. Cobham is already advertising for Captains again.
Hang in there guys – as I said – the wheel keeps on turning!!!!!
Or am I just an over positive guy ???? :)

[gamma69]

Could any one please advise on the testing for the current Tiger Aways jobs, what is involved in part two of the online assessment.

Cheers

[Pressurevalve]

They charged me $72.60 for part 1 of the assessment. I can only assume that they will be further cost for part 2...

[Pressurevalve]

Good luck with the company interview :ok:

[gamma69]

Pressurevalve, whats with the interview?
Is that a statement of ease or disappointment.

[Grivation]

I'd suggest if part 1 is verbal/numerical reasoning then part 2 will be psychometric/behavioural

[Falling Leaf]

I really like how the email for the testing came 3 working days before Xmas, with the warning that you had 5 days to complete the test or you will be discontinued from the selection process.:ugh:

[Pressurevalve]

I haven't done mine yet… so good luck to everyone who got that far...

[TSRABECOMING]

I did the online assessment but unable to complete both of them.

[DeltaT]

Psychometric tests will always have more than you can do, its to put you under pressure to do as many as possible

[74world]

Any of you guys know what's involve in Part II of the online assessment????

[framer]

I really like how the email for the testing came 3 working days before Xmas, with the warning that you had 5 days to complete the test or you will be discontinued from the selection process.
If you are successful then you will be experiencing that sort of moronic unthinking management of personnel for years to come.

[Global Xpress]

Anyone in the know, can advise how the endorsments are working? From my understanding you have to have an A320 rating to be employed, so will they provide you with a letter of employment if you are not type rated? I understand there is no salary sacrifice, however heard a rumour that they are working on this? Would the letter of employment then be sufficient to provide a tax deduction on the endorsment? Just a thought.

[74world]

No reply, so I presume no one has heard the outcome from PART I in order to complete PART II of the online assessment….. :O
Any info on PART II would be appreciated :ok:

[tipskin]

Anyone done the second online assessment?

[gamma69]

I'm also looking for any information on part 2 of the online assessment.

[DeltaT]

Anyone in the know, can advise how the endorsments are working? From my understanding you have to have an A320 rating to be employed, so will they provide you with a letter of employment if you are not type rated? I understand there is no salary sacrifice, however heard a rumour that they are working on this? Would the letter of employment then be sufficient to provide a tax deduction on the endorsment? Just a thought.

Unless things have changed; you do not get a letter of employment, rather a conditional letter of acceptance into the holding pool. -BUT there was no holding pool anymore for 2012, unless they start one for 2013...which seems rather unfair on those that got wiped when the airline got grounded, from the original holding pool, that had type rated themselves!
You pay for the rating directly.

[TSRABECOMING]

I guess part II will be emailed to you ASAP after New Year and asking you to finish it by no more than 5 days as same as part I. :yuk:

[fl230]

I received an email just before the end of 2012, could anyone who has done the assesment 1 let us know if the practice questions from the onetest website are similar to the real q's. Ive been looking at the company that qlink us and the other site look a bit different, a bit tougher.

Any info for us would be great

[TSRABECOMING]

They charged me $72.60 for part 1 of the assessment. I can only assume that they will be further cost for part 2...
You are right. it is $213.40 more for part II :ugh:

[74world]

Yeah you're correct about Part II, just received an email asking to do it within 7 days....

[bddbism]

Ha, what a joke. They lure you in with the $72 for round 1, giving you a few days to mull it over before ultimately deciding it'd be a waste not to have a crack, then they up it and slug you a cheeky $213 for round 2! By this stage, you're excited you made it to the next round and you're already somewhat financially committed to the process, so what's another few hundred dollars. I can't wait to find out how much the sim is.

As someone mentioned earlier, I wonder how many people actually got culled in round 1, if any. It smells of a scam, yet .......I'll still jump through the hoops. Do you think they'll reverse charge you for the phone interview?

[grrowler]

Asking for $72 to do some online test is hardly luring, more like asking you to bend over and touch your toes so you can find out what comes next. Eyes wide open...

[TopGunTrev]

Can anyone suggest a place in Melbourne where I can get some A320 simulator time for a reasonable price?

Apparently there is the Ansett A320 simulator, but it costs $1,300 an hour, which is outside my budget.

I've never actually been inside an Airbus cockpit and would like to get familiar before doing an interview sim ride and hopefully TR.

[74world]

For JetStar the cost is $181,50 compare to $285 for Tiger.
Must be supply and demand then... :sad:

[Falling Leaf]

Considering that anyone doing this process is prepared to fork out $30,000 of after tax earnings if 'successful', is the costs for the on-line assessments really with getting uptight over?:ugh:

[volare_737]

Hahaha - good one - Falling Leaf !! Do any of you guys know if all this is for FO positions or Captains as well ?

[BPA]

It all could be all in vain if the ACCC doesn't approve the Tiger take over by Virgin.

[DM777]

A question for anyone who has recently done the Level 1 assessment....Is the verbal reasoning like the Qlink one, true, false or cannot say or is it a bit different.

The practice questions on their site are different, just wondering if it is the same in the actual assessment.

[74world]

about the same !
Good luck :ok:

[Di_Vosh]

Can anyone suggest a place in Melbourne where I can get some A320 simulator time for a reasonable price?

Apparently there is the Ansett A320 simulator, but it costs $1,300 an hour, which is outside my budget.



What would you consider a 'reasonable price', TGT?

[tipskin]

Can anyone confirm if they have done assessment 2?? Ive done the first one, but havnt heard Jack, so maybe I bombed it....

[74world]

How long ago did you do Part II ?
I will probably do mine today..... :8

[TopGunTrev]

@Di_Vosh I've been searching and found the A320 sims seem to range between $1,200 and $3,000 an hour.

There is a B737 sim in the city that is less than $300 an hour which seems a lot more reasonable for what I want.

The Airbus have very specific fly-by-wire self-trimming controls and related systems so a B737 sim is no good for me.

[Global Xpress]

So what exactly is the online assessment part II?

[74world]

Part II :

· Abstract Reasoning - 15 minutes
· Spatial Reasoning - 30 Minutes
· Personality - untimed

[peterc005]

@Trev - there is a new Airbus A320 full-size sim on St Kilda Rd Melbourne that is available for hire. It is used for joy flights, familiarisation and training.

I think it costs about $150 an hour for training.

Contact details are email: [email protected]

[Di_Vosh]

I think it costs about $150 an hour for training.

Try $275.00 per hour. Website here:

Flyajetsim - Home (http://www.flyajetsim.com/)

Not sure why you're wanting simulator time, though. From your postings and profile it appears that you're just out of flying school and looking for your first job.

There is a possibility that some A320 sim time might help you get a cadet job somewhere. But the reality is, is that your pathway to a jet job will be a more traditional instructor/charter GA route.

My 2c


P.S. Just saw an ad for 'Flyajetsim' instructors. Requirements are that you hold a PPL. So Caveat Emptor as regards the quality of instruction you'll be getting. D.

[peterc005]

The interview and selection process for airlines generally includes a simulator session.

There are a couple of businesses specialise in preparing applicants for these interviews.

Part of this preparation often includes time in a simulator, so that when the candidate does the sim ride they are more familiar and can perform better. Call it being better prepared for the interview.

I imagine that because Tiger and Jetstar use A320s and these airlines probably have the best growth prospects, that this (Airbus) is where the best job opportunities will be.

Time in an A320 sim makes sense to me for airline aspirants.

[tipskin]

@74 World,

I did Part 1 on the 30th Dec, It had a deadline of the 6th Jan.
So hoping i was in a different pool than you, if you've already got the second assessment. Or i have to go back to stacking shelves while i wait for something else to pop up!!.

[Di_Vosh]

peterc005

If you're going to give advice to young/aspriational pilots about applying for job interviews, perhaps you should also point out that you have never worked in the aviation industry as a pilot in any way shape or form and that your career to date has been that of an I.T. professional.

Otherwise people may take your advice as if you are someone with experience (on either side of the pilot interview desk), as opposed to a PPL who owns his own aircraft.

P.S. In a past life I worked as an I.T. professional, and IIRC your advice to people regarding the I.T. industry is pretty suspect as well.

[bmgc]

has anyone actually completed part 2 of the assessment? the question still remains!

[b215]

Topguntrev,
Airline sim checks for initial assessments are nothing about aircraft systems or specifics, in could be in a 72 pr a an A something, doesn't matter. You will be given some basic numbers ie attitudes and power settings and you will,be assessed on how you fly basic power plus attitude equals performance. And generally how you improve through the session. In my opinion learn and practice the basics and save your dough.

[bmgc]

just received a response from advize...due to the 200+ applicants they're reviewing test results in batches so just because you haven't received an invite for part 2 don't cut your wrists just yet! i'm still waiting, to finally get out of GA that is!!! :eek:

[peterc005]

The question related to an A320.

Airbus are fly-by-wire, with self-trimming roll and pitch, which is different than anything in GA.

A recent post here by a B737 Captain describes the difficulty transitioning to an A320.

To go into an important interview without doing as much preparation as possible is silly.

[b215]

Perhaps your right PETE ,
Have a bit of time on the 320 and it does have a few gizmos compared to the boeings, but it still,flys like any other airplane and in my experience initial assessments are about basic skills and not about ecams or flight control law, or any other airbus silly stuff.

[Di_Vosh]

peterc005

The pros and cons of doing sim prep in a relevant sim should be (and has been) the topic of other thread(s). From these threads you may note that few people believe that there is value in doing a pre-interview sim in anything but a full-motion simulator.

Two examples:

http://www.pprune.org/dg-p-general-aviation-questions/464878-flight-experiance-sims.html

http://www.pprune.org/dg-p-general-aviation-questions/314592-qf-int-sim-prep.html

Plenty of stuff there about the limitations of the simulators such as the one in Darling harbour.


But my problem with you is that you gave poor advice to someone:

@Trev - there is a new Airbus A320 full-size sim on St Kilda Rd Melbourne that is available for hire. It is used for joy flights, familiarisation and training.

I think it costs about $150 an hour for training.

Contact details are email: [email protected]

This advice was wrong. First was price wise. Second, there is nothing on their website about training. A 30 second check on google would have found the employment link where it says that the minimum requirements for a sim instructor for them is a PPL!

Are you seriously telling me that a PPL can give relevant advice on someone who wants to use that sim for the purpose of a job interview?

You gave more advice:

The interview and selection process for airlines generally includes a simulator session.

There are a couple of businesses specialise in preparing applicants for these interviews, for example:

Cabin Crew Interview | Pilot Interview

Part of this preparation often includes time in a simulator, so that when the candidate does the sim ride they are more familiar and can perform better. Call it being better prepared for the interview.

Let's see. Link was okay... non-australian website, but has helped out some aussies. Interestingly, the website you linked only appears to have a 737NG sim ride in any of their packages. And yet...

The question related to an A320.


I imagine that because Tiger and Jetstar use A320s and these airlines probably have the best growth prospects, that this (Airbus) is where the best job opportunities will be.

Time in an A320 sim makes sense to me for airline aspirants.

Written with all the authority of an I.T. professional who's never done an airline interview. :ouch:

I'm not saying you're wrong with your last point, btw, but you're giving advice that you, personally are not qualified to give.

[DeltaT]

Anyone else pick up on the inconsistant information from Advize.
One moment its 400+ applicants, now its down to 200+ :hmm:

Anyone been told of their cost towards the sim ride for interview yet?

[morno]

If you're that negative towards the recruitment process, why are you applying (as it appears)?

Like I said before, when you all filled out that application form, you ticked a box that confirmed your understanding that the first 2 stages were at a cost to yourself.

Guess maybe that's why there were 400+ to start with and now 200+, 200+ who are whinging because they have to pay for Stages 1 and 2.

morno

[bboy]

I looked into this position and I am aghast as to what I have found out.

Crawling over each other to pay for an interview for a ramshackle operator for rubbish pay. Even Ryanair is not that bad.

You really have the worst airline industry on planet and its all because there is a queue of pilots willing to climb over one another for a job. The airlines are quite simply capitalising on this and will become a benchmark for the HR of other airlines in the future.Shame as its a great country to live in, but full of not so clever pilots. Big Picture lads!

[Roger Greendeck]

Unless you've been told otherwise don't assume that you'll be in an A320 for the selection sim. These sim checks are to test your instrument flying skills specifically and other flying tasks such as working in a basic crew, organisation etc. They are not to test your ability to fly the A320 per se.

If they are doing the assessment in Melbourne then my guess would be the 737 classic sim at Ansett. It isn't as busy as the other sims there, has fully conventional controls and round dials. Perfect for an assessment sim.

[74world]

Anyone has done the phone interview yet ?
I have to do mine soon so any info would be appreciated.... :ok:

[Trevor the lover]

Hey BBoy

reference your quote - ".....ramshackle operator for rubbish pay."

Whats so bad about $200k for a skipper? Thats not too bad to me. Go stick your sorry fat arse back in GA and tell me then that $200k for a skipper is "rubbish pay."

Lay off guys trying to improve their career. And wherever you may be, earning whatever golden coin a waynker of your high stature deserves - please stay there. (I hope its Kazikstan).

[74world]

Could not agree more with Trevor the lover :D

[bmgc]

@Trevor the lover

well done mate. not sure of bboys' origins or job status but reaks of an old instructor who doesn't and never will have the ability to progress out of GA and onto bigger and better things.

@bboy

i take it from your ill-informed remark that you haven't read tigers eba? if you had, and compared it to other operators you'd find that although it's not the best of the bunch, it's pretty bloody good and certainly not the worst. not by a long shot.

[TSRABECOMING]

Where can I find TIGER EBA?? thank you

[TexanPilot]

Why is it that when people try to advance their career everyone else in this industry jumps down their throat.

Yes you have to pay for your testing, same as you do for Qantas & Jetstar (maybe not as much though).

You have to pay for your endorsement. Same as you do for Jetstar and Virgin, the only difference being that you don't pay the interest on the loan per the salary sacrifice agreement.

"Ramshakle Operator"!!! Yes they have had their issues, no one is disputing that. As far as salary goes they don't pay as much as Virgin but they still pay more than Jetstar.

If people remember back, the comments on this thread sound very similiar to ones said when Virgin first started up and now Virign is one of the hottest jobs in Australian aviation.

Why can't we go back to the time when we supported our fellow pilots??

TSRABECOMING I believe you can find the Tiger EBA on the AFAP website.

[DeltaT]

Passing the interview and paying for the A320 endorsement still does not guarantee you the job...where are those pilots that were in the holding pool before the grounding? The pool was wiped from what I understand.

[TSRABECOMING]

TSRABECOMING I believe you can find the Tiger EBA on the AFAP website.
Is it in the member area??

[fl230]

How many people have done assessment 2 and the recruitement interview? Ive done assessment 1 but haven't heard anything back from them since I did ass 1 deadline 6th jan

[Higs]

Hi all,
Ii have done everything including the "Final interview". I think that they are waiting for the ACC announcement at the end of the month. This will determine the expansion plans or not.
regards
Higs

[volare_737]

Higs - did you do the interview in Melbourne and did they give you options for different dates ? Sorry - would be nice to know.

[Higs]

I did mine via SKYPE. It was more of a chat than an interview.
Regards
Higs

[Stiff Under Carriage]

How long did you guy wait to hear from doing Stage 1? Before Stge 2 was offered?

[74world]

few days....

[Stiff Under Carriage]

That's not good.

[bmgc]

still only completed round 1 of testing (which i found pretty easy) but i get this email today form advize:

We hope this email finds you well.

By way of a general update regarding your application with Tiger Airways we are awaiting feedback from the team at Tiger and anticipate there will be no further progress update until the first week in February.

On behalf of our team thank you for your continued interest.

Kindest Regards,
Samantha
Advize




What the? strange how some have completed all phases and others are in limbo. :confused:

[fl230]

Interesting email. I think it may have something to do with Tiger having to do with them waiting until the end of the month to hear if the ACC allows the buy into Tiger

[Stiff Under Carriage]

Yep, just got the same email....

[Higs]

Like I said, they are waiting for the ACCC announcment which is due out on the 31st of Jan..
If they approve the Virgin buyout from SQ then the flood gates will open. If not :sad: ??????
Regards
Higs

[bmgc]

@higs

Thought that might be the case. Cheers mate

[DeltaT]

To be announced Feb 7th.

[swamper]

Hi TGT

I've used Flight Sim X, with add on Wilco Airbus sim, a joystick and rudder pedals, with very good results , there is also a "ready for pushback" 747-300
that was relevant when Jetstar were using the Q 747 sim for assessments

Good luck

[Cat Fived]

Hopefully there is some good news with the announcement today....

[highflyer87]

This may not be the news you were looking for...

| Herald Sun (http://www.heraldsun.com.au/business/companies/accc-flags-concerns-on-virgin-tiger-deal/story-fndgp8b1-1226572480263)

Final decision still to be made March 14th...

[Stiff Under Carriage]

ACCC calls for comment on Virgin (http://www.accc.gov.au/content/index.phtml/itemId/1100923)

[tipskin]

I just received the second assessment email today. deadline of 19th Feb....things are moving...........slowly.

[Global Xpress]

Can some one advise what sim Tiger actually use for asessment? Id be surprised if it was actually the A320, happy to be proven wrong. As has been said before, its more the instrument skills, rate of learning and improvement they are assessing.

[Higs]

Hi there,
To those that have sent me private messages.. I appologise. I have not check this for some time as I have been very busy, so it is best tht I post a general reply.
I did my "final interview" with Tiger before Christmas. they said, they would get back to me within 1-2 weeks. I accept that there is the ACCC issue here, as such I have heard nothing, which is not supprising.
Since then another job has come up that "ticks a lot of boxes" and so I start next month.
Will I ever be offered a job with Tiger? You never know in this game... Never close doors.
Regards
Higs :suspect:

[Stiff Under Carriage]

Do you mind me asking which comp at ticks the boxes for you? PM me if you like. Just curious.

[fl230]

To the blokes that have done the 2 interviews, being the agency and tiger interview. My question is what where they asking and how long did they go for?

Cheers in advance

[Lacksy]

Anyone else fallen victim to the expensive 'Advise Projects" lately - the Tiger Airways HR Department that pretends to recruit? Be interesting to see how many others pay for screening and actually get through?

Funny how so many applicants seem to fail the psych test with Tiger, yet had no trouble with Qlink / Jetstar......

[TexanPilot]

How would you know how many have failed it?

[DM777]

Has anybody heard anything after doing stage 2 of the online testing?

DM777

[Compylot]

Hi DM777,

I received an email today indicating that I was succsessful in the stage 2 online testing and had been selected to participate in an interview and sim assesment.

If anyone has any information on what to expect in the sim ride and interview it would be much appreciated. PM me if required.

Good luck to all involved :ok:

[morno]

Uh huh. Only one problem Compylot, interview and sim assessment isn't the next stage.

Nice try though.

morno

[74world]

A Skype interview with the deputy chief pilot (TG) follows the 2nd stage assessment if successful.:cool:

[Compylot]

Hi Morno,

Well it's obvious then that you didn't get through the first stage because I have an invitation to attend "A panel interview and Simulator assessment conducted in an A320 on xx/xx/2013.."

Nice try though...

[TexanPilot]

Second stage isn't interview and sim... Why can't people post accurate things on this site.

[Stiff Under Carriage]

Morno/TexanPilot,

Try reading Complylot post #165. He said that he has completed Stage 2 and was offered an interview and sim. He DIDN'T say that Stage 2 was the interview and sim.

Why can't people post …

Why can't people read??:ugh:

[ratlike]

Quite true SUC, however people tend not to pay as much attention to the detail in some posts when the individual posting them has made multiple arbitrary claims across multiple threads for their own entertainment or so it would seem. #Compylot

[TexanPilot]

I meant to write third stage. Don't know why I wrote second. Long day.

But my point remains that some people just post on here to try to get a reaction out everyone.

[morno]

Ohhh deary me SUC. Maybe take some of your own advice and tell me where I said that stage 2 was the interview and sim, :rolleyes:.

I am well aware of the different stages of Tiger recruitment.

Compylot is nothing more than full of ****.

morno

[74world]

Guys the bottom line is:

*Stage 1
*Stage 2
*Face to face interview OR Skype interview for guys NOT in MEL (I did the Skype interview)

(No idea about the sim since I wasn't required to do one, probably because I'm current on type) :confused:

Good luck to all…. :ok:

[fl230]

Spoke to a Tiger pilot and says that they are offering internal transfers first then offering spots to guys that have endos and next will be others that have applied. Think there will be around 18 spots to what was heard

[SAO IO SPO]

Here is an idea,

all of you acting like children please ring up Tiger and ask to have you application withdrawn so the crew don't have to put up with your nonsense should you somehow slip through the screening process.

If that offends you, then your one of the unprofessional fools this post is directed at!

[j3pipercub]

Indeed, Tiger have enough already!!! Well I can guess from the people I know who work there...

j3

[Multione]

Anyone have any info on approved type ratings? Does it have to be through Alteon or do they accept foreign conversions?

Completed stage 2, still waiting.......

[fl230]

Has anyone recently done a phone interview?

[bigbrother]

Can anyone provide a brief summary of type of roster they are running, days off, current Salary package? Just the facts nothing but the facts please. Not interested in bitching, just the facts

[tipskin]

I've just been emailed with a few dates for the phone interview next week.
Keen to know if anyone has done it yet. Pm me if anyone's interested in giving me a heads up. I'll be available end of next week to give anyone else a heads up aswell. :ok:

[TexanPilot]

Phone interview is purely behavioral. No Tech or company knowledge questions at all. Good luck.

[TheColonel]

Mate,

Final stage is with the Deputy Chief Pilot. For me it was nothing more then friendly chat and they tell you the conditions ect about tiger and ask you no more then what can you tell me about tiger and why you want tiger ect, basic stuff, nothing Tech at all.

Good luck..

[TheColonel]

Whats the cost of the full type rating there now days?

[timcflyer]

Does anyone out there have any specific info about the "Online Assessment" tests?
I will be taking them in early Jan. and would like to know where to go for the best prep.
Any info would be a big help.
Please PM me.
Thanks http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/smile.gif

[stockstandard]

Ditto. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks

[bagchucka]

Looking for a sim buddy. PM me.

[polaris79]

Hi guys, also looking for online assessment prep with Advize recruitment. Please help!

[DeltaT]

It doesn't matter what you score on the online assessment.
Because you have paid your money the 'Advize' agency will now go over your CV afterwards and pass or fail you based on that.
If you do not get a pass, why do you think the answer they give you is "experience not competitive" when they knew that when you applied??
I'm hearing about people going to some quite extraordinary lengths to give correct answers and still not getting through to the next stage.
Its all about $ collection.

[atlas12]

I just did the online assessment this week. Anyone else in the same boat? I have heard of people being knocked back after due to 'experience', pretty crazy stuff since the cost was almost $300!!!!!

[a320.sim.melb]

Any word on what new airframe deliveries Tiger have scheduled for 2014?

[AerodyManic]

@Atlas12:

When did you apply and what's a rough summary of your experience? I applied late December but havnt heard a thing

[stockstandard]

Yeah finished mine this week too. I guess it's time to wait and see.
Do you know how many people have applied or how many they need?

[atlas12]

@AerodyManic

Applied in December, through the Tiger website. 4000TT, 3000+ TP including cmd.

[atlas12]

I was not successful in the online assessments. I am interested in hearing if anyone managed to get through?

[fatih]

I was also told I wasn’t successful with the online assessment.

[TheColonel]

Those online assessments are a joke... Im told that someones wife from the recruitment team owns the online assessment company... Wouldn't surprise me... Keep failing guys n make more cash... ;)

[DeltaT]

So Fatih and atlas12 tell us what the reply back was that you received after doing the Psychometric testing, was is "experience not competitive" as I have received also? And what are your total hours?

Interested to hear how your 'experience' stacks up against 1500hrs TT time guys that are getting in.
OR perhaps it is more to do with a request from management the experience that that they are looking for at a particular time, and so if you don't match it you are wasting your money before you have even tried?

Tracy Ruffin is the founder and managing partner of Advize and Dezign, 2005.
Is there a Ruffin surname in Tiger? Could also be her maiden name.

[KRUSTY 34]

So how much to sit the online assessment?

[training wheels]

So how much to sit the online assessment?

Google is your friend :)

https://tg6.testgrid.com/securedispatcher?page=c7282c2a744aed8ed26d12215765d310e5f769 949cc2ef037c39cf4b15b5167a24477462a1c4d37a50c15961c727b248

https://tg6.testgrid.com/securedispatcher?page=c7282c2a744aed8ed26d12215765d310e5f769 949cc2ef037c39cf4b15b5167afb33bc48f78aa764c406571e1acd69a5

Wonder whether anyone can just pay and try it out without an invitation from TigerAir recruitment?

[clear to land]

Unsuitable after online assessment-Heavy jet training captain (admittedly not AB qualified) with the worlds major International airline, ex military and with a Degree. HR are always a law unto themselves. Everything happens for a reason I guess…...

[DeltaT]

haha, looks like those links work and indeed you can sit the testing without an invite. Now wouldn't that be interesting to see if you pass or fail without them seeing a CV -which isn't supposed to make a difference when you come to sit the testing at this stage!

Wow Clear to Land, that's incredible
Perhaps it is becoming a who you know airline

With having a read of the Terms and Conditions from the above entry page, I was surprised to find that there are indeed sample tests available here (http://tg6.testgrid.com/demo/home.tg)

Also, you guys that just got knocked back, take a read of this, straight from Your Rights as a Candidate in the Terms and Conditions:
4. If you fail to meet the employment screening requirements of the organisation, you are lawfully entitled to be advised of the grounds (of direct relevance to the position applied for) for the rejection of their application and any avenue of appeal open to you.

[KRUSTY 34]

Thanks training wheels.

I have a confession. My interest in the cost was only driven by curiosity, but nice of you to post the link.

Nearly four hundred bucks! Nice little earner. From some of the posts I've read here, there must be some pilots desperate to get home. TT OZ may, or may not succeed. The jury is still out as far as I can see.

Wake up and smell the coffee boys and girls. Smacks of Management/HR exploitation to me. I mean FFS! $400 just to apply?

Have you all gone mad!!!

[Stikybeke]

Well,

I wonder, given that this is obviously some HR related requirement, if one were to pay all that money to sit these assessments (in a quiet location so that no one can disturb you...as advised) if wouldn't be worth also paying someone (who was suitably qualified, e.g a Psychologist or someone like that if you're game) some money as well to sit with you to "assist" you through this process..? ...Hey! you could even agree to a "No pass no pay" arrangement or a case of Crownies or something....

Just a thought...(not that I would condone such an approach, but really, if it's about using what you can to "reason" appropriately, why not... after all, they started it!!).

Stiky
:ok:

[morno]

All good and well to whinge that it's unfair to pay the cost of the assessment, but given the current situation employment wise in Australia, $400 is chicken feed to have to pay if you're wanting to come home, or are in need of a career advancement.

Still pays better than Jetstar.....

morno

Edited to add - These psychometric and skills tests, have any of you thought that maybe they're not looking for the top geniuses, but rather someone who fit's their psychometric 'mould'?

[DeltaT]

@Stikybeke I have heard of someone do exactly as you have described and they did not get through. He is a very experienced pilot also.

[Stikybeke]

Thanks DT,

I'm not surprised to hear that....Oh well, just a thought anyway. Sounds like it's basically "luck of the draw" or a "toss of the coin" for you guys. Especially those of you who are highly experienced. You'd think that in the current climate, you'd be first off the bat!

Keep trying guys and good luck!!!

Stiky
:ok:

[Trigger Happy]

Hi, would be interested in hearing what to expect for the Tigerair interview with Deputy Chief Pilot. Any help would be appreciated. P.M me if you prefer.

[TexanPilot]

Study up on the A320, Tiger operations and some behavioral questions.

[Gligg]

I hear they take in 40k or more in a steady month of testing. I'm in the wrong business!

[DeltaT]

Any truth to TG of Tiger being married to SLB of Advize?

[BUSH PILOT]

Anyone who interviewed in Feb/March heard anything yet? What's the usual time frame from interview to getting a yes or no??

[stockstandard]

nothing yet. Still just the monthly updates. Which part of the interview have you completed?

[BUSH PILOT]

Panel interview in Melbourne in early March, only the generic monthly updates since then. Would be nice to get some sort of an idea on a potential timeframe...

[Trigger Happy]

Panel interview mid March. Notified within 7 days. Not hearing is probably a good thing. Good luck!

[stockstandard]

Same here, mid march, generic e-mails every month, no news as of yet. No idea either on whats happening or time frame.

[capson]

G'day ladies and gents

Just a quick question. What kind of hours are they looking at?

[TheColonel]

Recruitment has stopped for now... Things slowing down.

Just saying

:eek:

[stockstandard]

Colonel,

Is this inside info about things slowing down? Until when?
Cheers

[KRUSTY 34]

Tiger can't stay the way it is. At some point the parent will either expand it or wind it up. Rumour has it, it will be after the end of the financial year. Hopefully the cashed up owners of VA (you know the ones), will finally make the move.

Praying for a good outcome. The last thing we need are more pilots out of work.

[stockstandard]

Lets all hope you are right, and it better be before Qantas floods the market with qualified pilots.

[TheColonel]

As krusty said. After financial year...

[Trigger Happy]

Stockstandard- Sounds like you are nicely placed on the Tigerair "holdfile", so in a pretty good position when they start recruiting again. Hang in there & good luck!

[Alasadan]

Been getting monthly updates since April, at the start of each month except this month.
anyone had a call yet?

[Thallus77]

they seem to hire agn

[stockstandard]

Have they called anyone? Still getting the monthly updates.

[stockstandard]

Rumour has it, they've called some people who interviewed end of last year/beginning of this year for October starts.
Can anybody confirm this?