EASA again - Now there is a 3 year rule.

[BANANASBANANAS]

Not sure if this is new news or not. It sure made my eyes open when I heard. The 5 year rule regarding I/R is, quite rightly imho, being challenged by various members on PPRUNE and I wish you the very best with your rightous fight against bureacracy.

However, I have recently returned to SE Asia from a sim ride in EASA land which I thought I had booked for an I/R (might as well do an LPC anyway) as it was just over 4 years since my last I/R & LPC on my JAA licence. I am current on the same type on a non EASA but ICAO licence.

The sim was booked for early evening and in the afternoon I got a call from the examiner asking if I was aware of the new 3 year rule? I wasn't and he had only learned of it that morning. Bottom line is if your JAA/EASA LPC has expired by more than 3 years then you have to do the full type rating course again. If it has expired by a lesser amount then the training requirement gradually increases with the length of expiry. I'm afraid I can't quote you the reference but I did check directly with CAA who confirmed all the details. It came into effect 17/9/12 with EASA but was, apparently, only published some 6 weeks or so before that.

I guess that means there are now another bunch of guys who thought they were ok to wait just over 4 years before doing a JAA I/R and now find themselves staring at a type rating course if they wish to regain currency in EASA land.

What is the world coming to?:ugh:

[goingdown]

Why oh why you guys want to return to EASA land? Leave them in their misery till they die of it.

[Dan Winterland]

Because your HKG licence is a validation of your original licence and if you ever decide to go elsewhere, some Aviation Authotities will only issue their licenses on you original licence. You are limiting your options if you let your national licence lapse.

EASA Part FCL does allow foreign ratings to be put on your licence. I have written to the CAA to see how they plan to implement this, but am still waiting for a reply.

[quadspeed]

Why oh why you guys want to return to EASA land? Leave them in their misery till they die of it.

Well, I'd rather take my chances on high taxes and political discussions then watch my children:

a) suffocate from from air pollution. (Hedley Environmental Index (http://hedleyindex.sph.hku.hk/home.php))

b) be brainwashed by Communism (Hong Kong Tries to Curb Tensions Over Beijing's Growing Sway - WSJ.com (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443589304577632870714060122.html))

c) watch the worlds lakes, forests, mountains and wildlife only exist on TV from within 500 square feet of air-conditioned concrete. (Heat Rises in Hong Kong's Property Market - WSJ.com (http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10000872396390443720204578003841268771544.html))

d) be discriminated against because of their skin color (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Western_sentiment_in_China)

e) grow up without free speech, democracy and an independent judiciary.


In about 30 years time - like it or not - Hong Kong will be a fully integrated part of China, and that change can not happen overnight. There is a linear path which takes us from here to there, and that involves many gradual changes to the Hong Kong lifestyle. For every year the Beijing-driven integration is delayed, the steeper the curve becomes towards 2047.

Now you can take your chances on that not happening, but as with everything else in life you must ask yourself if you can really afford to be wrong.

[kwaiyai]

Agreed Dan, Not losing my licence so keep the IR valid and even my SEPL rating cos need my yearly Aeros pill in a T1 anyhow. My ATPL from another country aint worth squat and authority there wont renew without Work permit as well. Try perusing this CAP 804 though Lol

[de facto]

The sim was booked for early evening and in the afternoon I got a call from the examiner asking if I was aware of the new 3 year rule? I wasn't and he had only learned of it that morning. Bottom line is if your JAA/EASA LPC has expired by more than 3 years then you have to do the full type rating course again

The UK CAA website, as of today,provides the CAP 804 latest amendment of september 17th.
Nowhere is this 3 year rule mentioned,only the 7 year rule for IR theory credit and a 3 month rule for the yearly proficiency recurrency.(FCL 625).

[NOT ORANGE]

Look it's only the thieving little ****bags in the UK that are doing this utter nonsense.I have a JAR licence did all the exams and over my dead body will they take my licence away.Wait for the DOT ruling then go to court,the CAA have absolutely no chance of winning this one.The whole of the rest of Europe sees it differently from the UK.Save your money you have EARNED YOUR F****G licence and they cannot take it away!!!!!!