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Kyprianos Biris
29th Aug 2012, 16:11
Yesterday at 15:40z a light aircraft went off runway during landing at Samos LGSM most propably due to strong gusty crosswind.

Report in Greek with picture:
EFPALINOS: (http://tinyurl.com/d7y45k7)

METAR LGSM 281620Z 35013KT 280V030 9999 FEW025 26/10 Q1011=
METAR LGSM 281550Z 34014G28KT 270V030 9999 FEW025 27/12 Q1010=
METAR LGSM 281520Z 34016G31KT 270V360 9999 FEW025 28/13 Q1010=
Source: Entrada de Ogimet (http://www.ogimet.com)

ETOPS
30th Aug 2012, 10:38
It was an Aquila A-210............



http://www.flugzeugbilder.de/a/109/68/1325201013.jpg

Kyprianos Biris
4th Sep 2012, 11:33
Video of the crash after landing at runway ... 09

private airplane crashes on taxiway at Samos Airport - YouTube

1700L (per video info.) if it is correct then it was 1400z

METAR LGSM 281450Z 34013G23KT 290V030 9999 FEW025 28/13 Q1010=
METAR LGSM 281420Z 31014G32KT 270V360 9999 FEW025 28/15 Q1010=
METAR LGSM 281350Z 31015G26KT 270V360 9999 FEW025 28/15 Q1010=

echobeach
4th Sep 2012, 13:27
Good reminder of need for directional control once on the ground in strong cross wind.
Bit odd is it not, landing 09 tho with those winds shown in metar. Tail and cross wind with 09. 27 would have given more of a headwind component and 310 only 40 degrees off.

peterh337
4th Sep 2012, 13:32
I better watch it... I may be heading down there soon, if there are avgas problems at the fly-in ;)

Johnm
4th Sep 2012, 13:53
I think I'd have been taxiing rather more slowly in that wind!

dublinpilot
4th Sep 2012, 14:40
I'm a little confused, not being familar with the airport.

The aircraft makes a sudden turn to the left (into wind), where one wheel (port) loses contact with the ground, and the starboard wing appears to hit the runway.

This looks like something broke to me. The gusts weren't that strong....only 10kts according to the METAR. (18kts at the middle one). And the turn is into wind.

Whenever a cross wind gust has affected might flight it always moves my aircraft sideways, rather than weather cocking it.

So I can't figure out if this was an over exurburent turn by the pilot, or something broke at that point or if this is the aircraft weather cocking in a strong gust.

If this was unintentional, then the pilot would presumably be moving across unleveled grass, and woudl be attempting to stop. Stopping should have been relatively quick as they were not into wind. Yet they don't really slow down, and don't show any of the bouncing around that would be expected from an unleveled grass area. Are they actually on a paved taxi way there (which would be consistant with an over exhubarent turn)?

If it was a taxiway there, then why the collapse when meeting the adjoining taxiway?

Have to admit I'm a little confused by this.

dublinpilot
4th Sep 2012, 14:44
Actually looking at the photos in the link in the original post, it looks like there is some soft of taxi way there. So the initial turn looks like it was intensional but over exhurbant.

Also looks like there is a lip where this taxiway joins the other one, and some grass growing through the concerete, and perahps the pilot verred onto the grass on the side of the taxiway.

I can't understand why they would't have slowed right down after their first incident! The mind boggles.

dublinpilot
4th Sep 2012, 14:50
If the wind was anyting like what was reported in those METARs then they landed with a strong tail wind, and once they turned onto that taxiway, they tail wind component would have been even more pronounced.

If they failed to kill the speed early, they might have been surprised not to be able to kill it so quickly when needed....hence the over exhubarent turn, and the failing to slow down on the taxiway.

Kyprianos Biris
5th Sep 2012, 12:48
Even more confusing is the fact that the two fire engines are already on the move when the aircraft vacates the runway ...

peterh337
26th Sep 2012, 19:31
I went there a couple of weeks ago (report (http://www.peter2000.co.uk/aviation/samothraki/)). That plane is still sitting there.

The ground crew said the fire service were called while he was still landing, because the landing wasn't going well.

Sir George Cayley
26th Sep 2012, 22:00
X-wind standby.

SGC