Random Vulcan Question

[c-bert]

I don't suppose anyone has a soft copy (or hard at a push) of any engineering drawings for the Vulcan (any mark) do they? I'm particularly interested in the wing profile (rib dimensions etc).

Thanks in advance!

[STANDTO]

Get yourself a copy of The Vulcan Story (Tim Laming, 2002. Silverdale Books ISBN 1-85605-701-1 ) Component weight and dimensions on p.216.

Great book even if it is no good for what you need it for

[Pontius Navigator]

Bruntingthorpe migh have what you need.

You might get lucky with BAE as well.

[vulcanxl426]

Hi

I work on xl426 at southend airport and we have various manuals and drawings let me see what i can do il pm you at the weekend if we have what your looking for.

Kind regards

Matt I

[hval]

Might I say that when I popped in to this thread I was somewhat disappointed? I was rather expecting that there might be a fun, brief little quiz along the lines of:

1/ Who was the first Vulcan in Starfleet?

2/ Explain how the Vulcan mind meld works

3/ How many marks, out of ten, would you give Commander T'Pol?

4/ How did Spock get off Delta Vega?

5/ When was T'Pol born?

[Heathrow Harry]

what worries me is that you will get some correct answers on here:)

[hval]

Yes, but how many will cheat and look up the answers?

[Hueymeister]

T'Pol? I'd give her 1, repeatedly:E:E

[hval]

Hueymeister,

Join the queue.

[Blacksheep]

I once took a swig of Teepol, mistaking it for fruit juice.

[Finningley Boy]

I have a Vulcan question, well kind of, I've come across some photos at the IWM showing ground crew in 1969 arming a Vulcan, what I've never seen before is some of the ground crew are wearing what look like white zip up fleeces?

Anyone any ideas?:confused:

FB:)

[GOLF_BRAVO_ZULU]

The drawings you are looking for would be those issued to the Chadderton Works where the wing sets were built. Contacting the AVRO Heritage Centre Home (http://www.avroheritage.com/index.html) might point you in the right direction. They should still have the wind tunnel models available for you to measure first hand; a bit easier than measuring a full size machine.

[Pontius Navigator]

some of the ground crew are wearing what look like white zip up fleeces?

You may remember that kit, other than the bog standard uniform, was in short supply in the 60s with lots of the stuff on sqn issue rather than personal issue - the RAF needed only half the foul weather gear etc.

Maybe private purchase by the group?

[c-bert]

Thanks for the leads guys! :ok:

[clarkieboy]

Originally Posted by Finningley Boy http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.pprune.org/military-aircrew/493044-random-vulcan-question.html#post7361518)
some of the ground crew are wearing what look like white zip up fleeces?

We wore short, white(-ish) duffel jackets at Linton for barrier manning, circa 1980, before it went all military. Us engine boys looked after the cold weather clothing, they were a remnant of old stock. Could it be them you saw?
Cheers

[Brian Abraham]

Not a lot of help but the root was NACA 0010 mod and the tip NACA 0008 mod.

[bloodline]

@Brian

Do you have any more details on the leading edge undercamber mod to the NACA 0008 airfoil?

[alisoncc]

Finningleyboy wrote:
some of the ground crew are wearing what look like white zip up fleeces?They wouldn't have been white for very long hanging around underneath a Vulcan. Our anoraks were toxic black and drawn from the hangar store as and when required, payment being a penny washer. They were suitably camouflaged with a mixture of hydraulic oil, engine oil and glycol from the ECM cans.

[Blacksheep]

In 1966 we made a formal complaint about the lack of cold weather clothing. We were issued an old worn out anorak, a pair of old "Trog Boots" and a pair of second hand sea boot socks. The word came back from No.1 Group that we could wear our own. Thereafter we looked more like a civilian work party than members of an elite front line nuclear bomber force.

[alisoncc]

I remember "Trog" boots. The soles were made out of redundant tractor tyres. An inch and a half thick with large knobbly treads. You could stand out on the pans in a force ten gale body horizontal but held onto the ground by your boots. We also had these navy-style off-white polo/roll neck sweaters made out of a greasy wool. They used to get used by one and all, but never got laundered from one year to the next.

After a night on QRA, a dozen of us would head to the mess for breakfast. The Orderly Officer was under strict instructions not to venture near a table reserved for us, as we were the scruffiest, unshaven unwashed, un-kempt and definitely un-uniformed bunch of grunts. Trousers tucked into white sea-boot socks, trog boots, off-white sweaters and invariably oil stained uniforms. But we kept the birds flying !!!

[Waddo Plumber]

1970's weapon load teams had arctic survival parkas, and I, as a loading officer wore a massively heavy duffel coat. Either of them would bring you to your knees if they got wet. In 4 years, I only supervised a load in shirt sleeves twice. The undersurface of the wing and the ground formed an effective venturi, and it was always cold under there.

Clambering between the front seats to check the weapon switches while wearing a duffel coat was fun too!

[bosnich71]

The ground crews on 213 and 80 sqdns. at Bruggen dressed the same and were also avoided by the "authorities" although I did once get a dressing down by a blanket stacker for wearing my own donkey coat during a visit to stores.The sqdn. N.CO. I was with soon sorted him out by asking why all the store men had cold weather gear when they didn't work outside but the sqdn blokes didn't.
And I never had cold/wet feet when wearing Trogs covered with melted candle grease.