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Worrals in the wilds
3rd Jun 2012, 14:23
Hope I'm that fit and pretty at 86. :ok:
Anyone else watching the celebrations?
From the furthermost reaches of the Realm, I think she's awesome. Glad the SLSCs are standing by in case she falls in (or anyone else who needs fishing out :}).
Rowing for queen and country in diamond jubilee - Local News - News - The Manly Daily (http://manly-daily.whereilive.com.au/news/story/for-queen-and-country/)
Thoughts?

Storminnorm
3rd Jun 2012, 14:27
Watching the proceedings as well Worrals.
Left a few comments on TTrabb.

Tableview
3rd Jun 2012, 14:29
I've never been an admirer of the royal family, particularly the females thereof, but I have to say that having viewed a few minutes of the goings-on today, the Queen is a proud and worthy figurehead for what used to be a great nation, it's just a shame that the country has deteriorated into a cesspit thanks to the machinations of successive left wing governments.

As for Phil the Greek and Charles, they're fantastic, outspoken eccentrics, and hopefully William and Harry will be the same.

DX Wombat
3rd Jun 2012, 14:33
I am and am quite happy to do so. I can't say that any of the other channels have provided anything which could tempt me to watch - cycling, gymnastics, tennis and a Western. :rolleyes:

airship
3rd Jun 2012, 14:36
For the very briefest moment, after HM QE II boarded the Royal Yacht's tender, I got the impression 'that Prince Philip was also under the impression that he was somehow steering the tender away from the dock', the way he was holding onto what I realise now was just a hand-rail, and not a steering wheel...?!

eastern wiseguy
3rd Jun 2012, 14:39
Just wondering if any wingnut will try his luck at swimming across the route today! ......:=

22 Degree Halo
3rd Jun 2012, 14:42
Biggest load of shite going.

:yuk:

Worrals in the wilds
3rd Jun 2012, 14:48
Just wondering if any wingnut will try his luck at swimming across the route today! ......:=Then he'll be dealing with the clubbies. :ouch::}
"This beach is closed mate! What part of closed don't you understand"?

Storminnorm
3rd Jun 2012, 14:56
Why are we so good at this sort of thing, and so useless
at everything else?

Worrals in the wilds
3rd Jun 2012, 15:05
Useless? :confused: It's all about self belief.
You aren't useless, you just think that. A nation with a collective sense of self doubt. So many achievements, such a great place...don't you see that?

Firestorm
3rd Jun 2012, 15:13
It makes me proud to be British, and glad that I don't live in a republic.

22 Degree Halo
3rd Jun 2012, 15:15
Let's get one thing right.

There is no country called Great Britain or United Kingdom whatever way you want to milk "Britishness".

Worrals in the wilds
3rd Jun 2012, 15:32
So, who are you?

Wholigan
3rd Jun 2012, 15:39
No idea but he is obviously Absolutely Fuming! ;)

Storminnorm
3rd Jun 2012, 15:46
No, I do think that we are useless now.
We spend most of our time just hanging on to the Yanks coat tails,
and hope that we are getting pulled along in the generally right direction.


We have very little influence internationally.
We're a spent force. But many will disagree with that I'm sure.

DX Wombat
3rd Jun 2012, 15:56
HMQE2 and the DoE are both amazing. She is 86 years old and he is almost 91. They have two very comfy-looking seats provided for them on that boat but instead they have chosen to stand since they went on board. I don't know about the rest of you, but I think I would have preferred to be seated yet they at their age have been standing for well over an hour.

MattGray
3rd Jun 2012, 16:04
So, who are you?

Ignore the curmudgeons Worrals and enjoy the show.

Anyone who'd fail to be inspired by the whole occasion or for example the spirit of the injured service rowers on the "Gloriana", itself a work of art, is really not worthy of a response.

Storminnorm
3rd Jun 2012, 16:13
I would have DEMANDED a cup of tea.

Apart from that omission, it's been a fantastic show.

I STILL don't know why there are Gondolas full of Italians floating
around.

beaufort1
3rd Jun 2012, 16:17
It's a fantastic spectacle and the organisation that has gone into it has been brilliant.:ok:

Storminnorm
3rd Jun 2012, 16:19
Very Smart turn-out on HMS Belfast.

Bl**dy GOOD show all round.

airship
3rd Jun 2012, 16:22
In spite of all the best efforts of the Sky News team, this afternoon's live coverage has been quite boring to watch. Undoubtedly, HM QE II is quite used to enduring such events though...?!

She might even have the smallest hope that when turning the next corner of the Thames on her present journey:

1) She will come "face to face" with the new Royal Yacht Britannica II - a 140m motor yacht built under the greatest secrecy at a Devenport shipyard, financed by grateful Russian oligarchs and other rich refugees who've found a home in the UK and the City of London under various past HM government/s...?!

2) Or else be presented to one of two of the UK's latest aircraft carriers under order, delivered early, as replacement for the HMS Ark Royal...?!

3) Or at least be confronted with the French aircraft carrier Charles de Gaulle, "on loan" to the UK whenever the situation requires it...?!

Yawn...... :uhoh:

Storminnorm
3rd Jun 2012, 16:38
Did you write "Les Miserables" Airship?

beaufort1
3rd Jun 2012, 16:47
I'm wondering what time our guys on the 'Flying Christine III' (marine ambulance) will get back home, they have to wait for the Thames barrage to reopen and refuel before heading back down the Channel. Could have done with her last night for a medevac from Sark, although our Lifeboat did the honours with a maternity case. :)

EDIT : I've just seen her passing her Maj now. :ok:

sitigeltfel
3rd Jun 2012, 16:47
I STILL don't know why there are Gondolas full of Italians floating around.
A tribute from the Italian community in London?


Quote of the day from the BBC.........
"The Captain has really defied gravity by moving the ship sideways" :confused:

Good show all round.......Splice the mainbrace!

4mastacker
3rd Jun 2012, 16:58
Did I hear some BBC presenter say that HMS Belfast weighed in at 91,000 tons and was the Navy's largest ship? Following on from some of the rubbish commentary provided during the Windsor event a couple of weeks back, one would have thought the Beeb would have sharpened up their act. All that effort by the boats to put on a brilliant show and some BBC lacky can't even check a freely available fact. :mad:

davidjohnson6
3rd Jun 2012, 17:12
Good show, but getting this nagging feeling that the press have hyped the whole weekend ever so slightly - bit like the much promised river of fire on 31 Dec 1999.
Enjoyable to watch, but somehow doesn't quite live up to what some of the more excitable journalists have suggested would happen

For somehing commercial, promise more, deliver less seems to be the maxim.
For something non-commercial like this afternoon, promise less, deliver more always seems to leave the punters that bit happier when they go home.

Crabman
3rd Jun 2012, 17:22
My, what silly little boats you have! Good show though

And, why was Mrs. Schleswig-Holstein-Sonderburg-Glücksburg wearing a satellite dish on her head?

Carbon Bootprint
3rd Jun 2012, 17:34
And, why was the queen wearing a satellite dish on her head? Part of the Murdoch media conspiracy, no doubt. Stand by for the Parliamentary inquiry...:rolleyes:

vulcanised
3rd Jun 2012, 17:51
I'm out of pocket again !

I put a tenner on HM to win. Slowest boat race I've ever seen.

603DX
3rd Jun 2012, 17:55
You aren't useless, you just think that. A nation with a collective sense of self doubt. So many achievements, such a great place...don't you see that?


Thank you for that Worrals, from this Englishman. I certainly see it, and many, many of my compatriots do also. We just don't believe in making a tiresome spectacle of self-congratulation about it. Not British, you know ... The mockers, purveyors of snide comments and doom merchants have to be allowed to make their bilious comments as well, I suppose, in the sacred interests of "balance". Maybe ... :rolleyes:

Newforest2
3rd Jun 2012, 18:20
O.K. shows over, where was the P.M.?

ricardian
3rd Jun 2012, 18:23
Haved just watched from 1330 to 1745 using iPlayer on the computer, first time we've watched TV in 7 years. Bloody good show! Shame about the crap presenters, where are the modern day equivalents of Richard Dimbleby & Raymond Baxter. Also a shame the the weather prevented the planned flypast

603DX
3rd Jun 2012, 18:42
O.K. shows over, where was the P.M.?


Don't think it's relevant, this was an event to celebrate 60 years of our Monarch's reign, not an opportunity for fly-by-night politicians to strut around like spare *****s at a wedding!

If he was there, the BBC didn't bother showing him. When will crummy politicos accept that certain institutions are well outside the mucky business of politics. I thought maybe Tony Blair had got the message back in 2000, when he tried to make a tub-thumping Nu-Labour speech at that year's Women's Institute conference, and was shocked into silence by thundrous slow-handclapping by the indignant audience. The WI never tolerates public debates, speeches or arguments on the twin subjects of politics or religion, yet the PM himself appeared to be totally ignorant of this.

RJM
3rd Jun 2012, 18:49
I enjoyed it. There's nothing bad about a party.

Plus the minor matter of impressive management of people, boats and tide - all without obvious hi viz marshals, barriers and security guys.

Lon More
3rd Jun 2012, 18:49
Spectacular!! Could have done without most of the presenters though
Pity the Swordfish didn't make it due WX, although as someone said, "Once the rain's got inside your skin's waterproof"

Tableview the unbridled avarice of the Thatcher years would have had nothing to do with it then?

Canaletto - The Thames on Lord Mayor's Day
http://www.thelondonmagazine.co.uk/Media/images/rrc-The-London-Magazine-Canaletto-London-The-Thames-on-Lord-Mayors-Day-The-Lobkowicz-Collections-87a7b70d-c01b-4e42-921d-db4fa24200ad.jpg

DX Wombat
3rd Jun 2012, 18:49
where was the P.M.? He was, allegedly, holding a street party indoors. :rolleyes:
PM aged 45+ years - party indoors in the warm & dry. Fully qualified wimp.
HMQE2 & DoE - ages 86 and 91 - outdoors in all the nasty weather, smiling and waving, obviously enjoying herself and standing for almost four hours. Tough old nuts fully deserving respect. :ok: Could I do it? I'm not sure I could. I know who I think did most for GB today.
Edited to add; 603 I appreciate your point but Boris Johnson and the Lord Mayor of London were there.

CATIII-NDB
3rd Jun 2012, 18:51
Glad you enjoyed the parade: I did the same - I Admired the ability of an 86 & 91 Year old to stand for 90 minutes (At 54 I would find that hard work).

I actually felt sorry for the soaked Choir too. But It did not live up to the hype, why do the BBC find it necessary to go overboard ( Sorry about the pun) on the royal grovel-meter. History ! not really - That Canaletto deserved more coverage.

It went well for her Majesty, and even I cannot moan about that - but and its a big but - Please BBC cut the hype there's History and there's pomp - The event will remain in the memories of those who took part or watched for many years but it is not really historically that important (yet) in its own right.

Off for a cuppa and scone,

Your reluctant subject

CAT III

RJM
3rd Jun 2012, 18:57
Did I hear some BBC presenter say that HMS Belfast weighed in at 91,000 tons and was the Navy's largest ship?

Yep, 91,000 tons. I thought I'd misheard. The lady actually said the navy's largest cruiser.

Light cruiser, 11,550 tons.

Tableview
3rd Jun 2012, 19:00
Lon More
Tableview the unbridled avarice of the Thatcher years would have had nothing to do with it then?

Clearly you think it does so dream on. If you really think socialism - demonstrably a failure - has done more to benefit the country than capitalism, then enjoy the dream, until it all comes crashing down. I'm not going to argue with you, it's pointless. Enjoy the view from the port side and I'll enjoy mine from starboard.

603DX
3rd Jun 2012, 19:20
Edited to add; 603 I appreciate your point but Boris Johnson and the Lord Mayor of London were there.

DXW, the Lord Mayor of the City of London is a non-political position, going way back through London's history to 1189, well over 800 years. It is accordingly rather special, almost "Royalty" itself, in fact, so the holder of that position for his strictly limited one year of office has every right to be present at such a pageant.
Boris Johnson, on the other hand, is ....... Boris Johnson; in my opinion a sort of unofficial Court Jester who many people think is simply not to be taken too seriously. His presence waving his little flag was a bit like Spike Milligan's appearance at Charles and Diana's wedding, there for light relief! ;)

RedhillPhil
3rd Jun 2012, 19:49
Smashing show. Truly awful commentary from the Beeb with duff information and gaping continuity.

goudie
3rd Jun 2012, 20:01
Considering the awful weather it was a magnificent effort by all concerned.
HM took it all in her stride...as usual.

With an event like this there's always a few dissenters.:(:(:( Makes me feel much better knowing I don't suffer from their miserable outlook. Thanks chaps!:ok:

The SSK
3rd Jun 2012, 20:43
RedhillPhill: Smashing show. Truly awful commentary from the Beeb with duff information and gaping continuity.

Absolutely spot on mate.

vulcanised
3rd Jun 2012, 20:51
Truly awful commentary from the Beeb


So say most people, but you can bet they're all congratulating themselves and maybe planning a celebratory party at our expense.

Union Jack
3rd Jun 2012, 22:10
Where was the PM? - NF2

He was, allegedly, holding a street party indoors.
PM aged 45+ years - party indoors in the warm & dry. Fully qualified wimp.
HMQE2 & DoE - ages 86 and 91 - outdoors in all the nasty weather, smiling and waving, obviously enjoying herself and standing for almost four hours. Tough old nuts fully deserving respect. - DXW

As a good host, and having properly and sensibly taken the best interests of his very young and very old guests into account, the PM was indeed holding the Downing Street party indoors. Then, as a good guest and a dutiful PM, he and Mrs Cameron kept a properly low profile on a non-political royal occasion and witnessed the Jubilee Pageant from the old HMS PRESIDENT.

And, being properly brought up, he didn't need reminding what a fool Anthony Charles Lyndon Blair made of himself trying to take over Queen Elizabeth The Queen Mother's funeral.

Jack

PS Thoroughly agree with Basil - after HM and the D of E, the singers from the Royal College of Music were the stars of the show:ok:

vulcanised
3rd Jun 2012, 22:35
Seeing the name of the last poster prompts me to ask if anyone saw, or even installed, a Union flag in their road?

My road had a plethora of embarrassing England flags for that football fiasco, but today ........ zilch.

Right Way Up
3rd Jun 2012, 22:36
22 degree halo - obviously a well balanced Scot - chip on both shoulders ;)

Agree about the singers - real grit!

Lon More
3rd Jun 2012, 23:18
Tableview I'm not going to argue with you, nor will I with you as you are obviously unable to see around your blinkers.

nomorecatering
3rd Jun 2012, 23:23
Greetings from Australia.

Good on the Brits for such a magnificent pagent on the River Thames. Was a very British pagent that realy showed what England is about. No one does pomp and ceremony like the British.

Was great to see boats from most of the Commonwealth countries participating, Life savers from Australia, Maories from NZ.

Would have loved to be there.

BigEndBob
4th Jun 2012, 00:07
Watched via link on MSN. Simply because no Babbling Broadcast Crap to ruin it. Just formulate your own opinion of the event.
If it was the Queens decision to stand all that time then i have great respect for her, i'm no Loyalist, who would have expected ther gran to stand that long. Would have liked to have been a fly on the wall at some of the close up of Royal banter.

And hope whoever organised the LPO boat with no canopy for the choir, having known for days it was going to rain, should be thrown in the river!
When they sang there hearts out at the end it was a case of we ain't going to let this bloody weather ruin it, good on them!

Tankertrashnav
4th Jun 2012, 00:28
My road had a plethora of embarrassing England flags for that football fiasco, but today ........ zilch.


Then you wont be impressed that the boss of the filling station where I work strung a row of said flags across the forecourt to mark the Jubilee today. Even his wife was embarrassed!

G-CPTN
4th Jun 2012, 00:30
Apparently the Duke of Ed kept HM amused by his comments about the boats as they passed-by.

The DofE is renowned for his acerbic humour.

parabellum
4th Jun 2012, 00:49
Can't believe I'm saying this but I watched it here, in Oz, on Sky! Tried the BBC broadcast, which came via the Public Channel, and quickly went back to Sky! Amazing!

Worrals in the wilds
4th Jun 2012, 01:13
I would have, but I don't have Foxtel. :sad: Ended up turning the sound down which worked a treat.
Apparently the Duke of Ed kept HM amused by his comments about the boats as they passed-by.I can imagine :eek:. He must have livened up so many boring functions for her over the years.
We just don't believe in making a tiresome spectacle of self-congratulation about it. Not British, you know ...
Fair enough, I forgot about the famous reserve. :) It's a foreign concept to most Aussies. :O:}

sitigeltfel
4th Jun 2012, 07:05
My, what silly little boats you have!

What "silly" big boats would you recommend for passing under the Thames bridges? :ugh:

Natstrackalpha
4th Jun 2012, 12:43
I would have DEMANDED a cup of tea.Stormin: Quite right too! They kept Her stuck on that deck for four hours without even a bacon sandwich and a cup of kai, you just cannot get the staff nowadays and it being a typically English, I mean British day in June -20 deg C and snow flurries etc . . . poor Queenie . . y`know, we must look after our monarchs a little better.

Had the whole village out yesterday to attend church and all the celebrations, it was simply lovely, we also planted a nice oak tree - it was either attend or we shoot you - everyone turned up.
Tea and yummies and all sort of red and white, strawbs and creme etc., nice touch to summer - a full blown Jubilee, just hope they put the kettle on as soon as She got back AND saved some of the creamy jammy scones for Her Majesty.

beaufort1
4th Jun 2012, 12:57
My, what silly little boats you have!

What is 'silly' about lifeboats belonging to the RNLI, a charity mainly manned by volunteers who have saved 139,000 lives since its inception from the early 1830's? :suspect:

vulcanised
4th Jun 2012, 13:02
Ttn, you seem to have taken the opposite inference to what was intended, deliberately or otherwise.

I have fond memories of HM waving to me in Dovercourt when I was about eight. Don't suppose she remembers me now..........

Jackw106
4th Jun 2012, 13:28
The decline of the BBC has been in evidence for a number of years now. You only have to look at their website to see the bad spelling, poor grammar and general lack of good English! Long gone are the days for the requirement to speak the Queens English before you got a job at the beeb, it does seem to have lowered the standards of what was the flagship of the English language.

Ancient Observer
4th Jun 2012, 14:00
SWMBO and I went up to London yesterday hoping to see the boats "live".
Got out of Tube at Westminster. All along Victoria Tower Gardens, at 10.50 to 11.00, people 5 deep. I could see the water, but SWMBO could not. Queue for the 1 coffee retailer about 100 lomg. No coffee for us. Awfully loud din from Huge screen and speakers.
Decided to walk along towards Pimlico. Get to Lambeth Bridge about 11.05. About 7 or 8 people deep. No chance of seeing water.
Walked along to Vauxhall Bridge. Even more people per square inch.

Gave up. Walked to Pimlico. Thousands more emerging from Tube. Went home.
Watched it on TV instead.

How come all the Trots and Pinkoes in the BBC suddenly turn in to a bunch of moronic sycophants?...........and couldn't be arsed to get out of their cosy studios to speak to real people?

I think the whole "live" event was staged for the privileged few.

A friend of mine's wife - a (seniorish) civil servant - got him and her a ticket on a boat, through her work.

CATIII-NDB
4th Jun 2012, 15:13
The whole thing would have worked better if it were two hours shorter in length - But I'm not sure that the logistics would have been possible.

The Queen and from what little I saw, the Duke were clearly tired at the end of it. Is anyone surprised ?

It was too overblown: Small boats, Large Boats, Old boats and New Boats. Boats. Pomp without substance.

The BBC commentary lacked historical detail and context but they are appealing to a very wide audience. Quite literally from Birth ! in one case. [That was abuse of the parents and neophyte] But there's no accounting for taste. I still need a bib.

Possibly we have seen a high point in the popularity of Monarchy.

In retrospect perhaps the event will be historic in this context. But for me its already beginning to fade in the memory.

Perhaps the concert will have broader appeal. They say a million people turned out to watch. I suspect they did not get the spectacle they were led to believe happen. The Weather was abysmal but the pageant seemed lacking.

Perhaps its time for a re think of the whole Monarchy. I am a republican and I'm not being a misery, but I think a fair review of the institution is needed to prevent a slow decline.

[Edit; Its easy to criticize and I was not organizing anything so its better to "Cut the BBC some slack" Boating slang. Perhaps lessons will be learned.]

CAT III

strake
4th Jun 2012, 15:26
Truly dreadful coverage on the BBC

However the "throw the remote control through the television" bit for me was the piece on HMS Belfast.
For a BBC producer to even think about using that glottaly-challenged bimbo to interview the old sailors on the ship would be breathtaking but to actually use her is almost beyond words... lack of respect springs to mind.

The so called experts childlike wonder at the Spirit of Chartwell docking, "Yes, yes...it is, it's going sideways...!!!" had me slumped in my chair in disbelief.


One hopes a head or two might roll.

CATIII-NDB
4th Jun 2012, 15:43
I don't think that any commentator would understand the idea of bow maneuvering thrusters on a barge; A space ship perhaps.

Before you pick up the remains of the tele thingy remember the 91,000 tonnes of HMS Belfast - Its made of a Lead/Plutonium anti gravity metal so it can float.

CAT III

Tableview
4th Jun 2012, 15:51
I watched it with the sound off whilst enjoying proper classical music of my own choice through the loudspeakers. I found it boring and mindless enough to spend quite a lot of time on Pprune yesterday and at the same time it eliminated the need to go out into the rain.

sitigeltfel
4th Jun 2012, 15:54
I think the whole "live" event was staged for the privileged few.

A friend of mine's wife - a (seniorish) civil servant - got him and her a ticket on a boat, through her work.
Ah yes, the new Nomenclatura :*

CATIII-NDB
4th Jun 2012, 16:02
Alright for some: I wish I was in the Nomenclatura ( Numbered ones) but there again I might have been accused of Putin the boot in if I had claimed to have a ticket.

CAT III

2 sheds
4th Jun 2012, 16:10
Appallingly amateurish production by the BBC; inaccurate, inadequate or just infantile commentary and content. Even incapable of keeping raindrops off the camera lenses.
Oh - and ****ing Ben ****ing Fogle with a very large Union flag upside down on his rowing boat.

Jan Moir sums it up in the Daily Mail...
Queen's Diamond Jubilee 2012: BBC sank under a tide of wittering inanity | Mail Online (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2154222/Queens-Diamond-Jubilee-2012-BBC-sank-tide-wittering-inanity.html)

2 s

Storminnorm
4th Jun 2012, 16:14
I think it might have been better to put HM in a hang glider
and get a Spitfire to tow Her up and down for a while.
Would've saved an awful lot of people having to worry about
where to stand for the best view, and they could have just
disconnected Her above Buckingham Palace.

green granite
4th Jun 2012, 16:59
And there were several Beeb reporters talking about the boats going up the Thames :ugh::ugh:

The Beeb seems to have a fixation about you having to see the presenter telling you about what you're looking at, instead of keeping the camera on the object of interest, they do it in lots of programmes.

sitigeltfel
4th Jun 2012, 17:18
I have just heard that the Duke of Edinburgh has thrown a sickie and gone into hospital with a bladder infection. Nothing of course to do with missing the concert this evening and getting a bit of peace and quiet ;)

Tankertrashnav
4th Jun 2012, 17:21
Just heard that Prince Philip has been taken to hospital with a bladder infection.

Wonder if he reckoned a comfy room in King Edward VII hospital might be a better bet than having Cliff, Tom Jones, Shirley Bassey et al belting it out at top volume outside his bedroom window tonight. Tough choice!

Seriously, I wish one of my favourite royals a speedy recovery from what can be a painful condition.

(Sitigeltfel - you beat me to it by three minutes - great minds :ok:)

22 Degree Halo
4th Jun 2012, 17:31
Prince Phillip is in hospital with a bladder problem.

A doctor's statement suggested it may be down to the sheer amount of our tax money the Royal Family piss away each year.

beaufort1
4th Jun 2012, 17:38
One I took of our lot returning from a shout. That was a relief lifeboat as ours has the O/N 17-04.

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y17/grantdi/Boats/LBi912March08lo.jpg

bnt
4th Jun 2012, 17:48
If you asked me to stand around for several hours without a P break, I suspect I wouldn't have a mere bladder infection, I'd be at risk of losing a kidney or two. The bloke is 90, he didn't have to do the whole barge thing, but he did. If he's skiving, I don't begrudge him that. Break out the cranberry juice ...

Tankertrashnav
4th Jun 2012, 17:58
22 degree halo - best estimate is the Royal family costs each of us about 67p per annum. Send me your bank details and I'll transfer £3.50 into your account, and you can have the next five years on me, if you promise to stop whingeing about it

Tableview
4th Jun 2012, 18:04
I suspect that should say : " and did not appear to be in discomfort"
Like the Queen, he stood for most of the 80-minute journey down the Thames and did appear to be in discomfort.

................

In the afternoon, a carriage procession in a State Landaus is due to take place with other members of the Royal family. However, the Queen will now attend the event without him at her side.


And surely it's a Landau and two Landaus?

I supose 1 can only except such slopy jornalism from the daily Mail!

strake
4th Jun 2012, 18:06
Before you pick up the remains of the tele thingy remember the 91,000 tonnes of HMS Belfast

Yes, I do remember..it was shortly before my vision started blurring and I thought I was going to have a stroke from a blood pressure surge.
The old matelot said something like "Well love, it's about ten thousand tons because it's a bit lighter these days with things removed,"

The TV Floosie replied "Yer, acherly, yer, it's eleven 'n an 'alf, innit?"

"Still, tell us all abart the shark when you wuz sunk?"

Tankertrashnav
4th Jun 2012, 18:08
I supose 1 can only except such slopy jornalism from the daily Mail!


The sad thing is that a lot of sub-editors wouldn't notice anything wrong with that sentence and would let it past :(.

bnt
4th Jun 2012, 18:19
From the Daily Telegraph, print edition, today:

http://featherfiles.aviary.com/2012-06-04/f77694d11/7f29c07f1dea4c77b70ae02c17f7fac0_hires.png

(via The Media Blog (http://themediablog.typepad.com/the-media-blog/2012/06/telegraph-typos-headlines.html), which has more)

sitigeltfel
4th Jun 2012, 18:23
A doctor's statement suggested it may be down to the sheer amount of our tax money the Royal Family piss away each year.

If all it has done is to make your piss boil, many will consider it money well spent.

Groundgripper
4th Jun 2012, 19:00
Daimond Jubilee

Obviously the Prince of Wales getting in a bit of practice.:E

Anyway, it seems to be becoming the accepted pronunciation these days.:yuk:

I'll transfer £3.50 into your account, and you can have the next five years on me

Actually, TTN, 5 years @ 67p per annum is £3.35. Don't waste your money, he probably wouldn't appreciate it.:}

GG

bnt
4th Jun 2012, 20:47
Just tuned in to the concert (BBC1), which is looking like a bit of a dog's dinner. Annie Lennox was all over the place, then soprano Renee Fleming's mic might not be working. I say "might not" because she has such a pair of lungs on her, she might not have needed one. :8

Oh, great: Tom Jones. Where's that remote got to ..?

Tableview
4th Jun 2012, 20:52
At least Amy Winehouse wasn't there. That was a dreadful insult to Nelson Mandela to have her perform at his birthday concert.

So far my favourite in tonight's line-up is Rolf Harris, with Cliff in second place.

Captahab
4th Jun 2012, 21:15
Poor pommy peasants still believing in a mob of inbred germans who changed their family name to Windsor after the last world war to appease the ignorant masses.
Onya Madge LOL.

Cheerio
4th Jun 2012, 21:26
It doesn't really matter - She is a figurehead and every nation needs one. She does a damn fine job of it. As for Phil - he has some backbone for a 90 year old. We'll miss them when they are gone. So I for one celebrate 60 years of HRH QE2 :D

bnt
4th Jun 2012, 21:40
I'm not exactly a monarchist, but I can see how it makes sense to have an institution that is above politics, which doesn't change tone and attitude with the tides of fashion. A bit of stability when everything looks like it's falling apart.

Oh, Elton ... I know it's Your Song, but what are you doing to it?

Tableview
4th Jun 2012, 21:44
I hate to say this but Elton John looks more like a queen than the real one!

Sprogget
4th Jun 2012, 21:45
I hope he does candle in the wind. That should get Brenda squirming.

Squealing Pig
4th Jun 2012, 22:10
Does Stevie Wonder & Will-I-Am know its not her birthday.

sitigeltfel
4th Jun 2012, 22:30
BBC News Scotland is running two headlines on its front page....

Ben Nevis beacon lit for Jubilee
Wildfires rage across Highlands

:eek:

ORAC
4th Jun 2012, 22:47
Any Americans watch the Jubilee celebrations so far?

Nothing personal, but I think I like our system of government and the monarchy.

Not too late to join the Commonwealth - you are eligible as an ex-colony....

RJM
4th Jun 2012, 22:47
It was too overblown: Small boats, Large Boats, Old boats and New Boats. Boats. Pomp without substance.

Good point, CATIII. Quantity is no substitute for quality. There seems to be a competition among event organisers to make each event bigger, in a simple sense, than the last one.

Personally, I felt that the Queen and her family could have floated down the river in that exquisite rowed barge (which seemed the maritime equivalent of a new state coach), perhaps followed by a few dignitaries and a band in the Spirit of Chartwell and a couple of security guys in a Zodiac.

Anyone else with a boat could have lined the Thames one or two deep, big boats at the back, and be provided with planty of flags.

As it was, the new rowed thing seemed a bit superfluous, and the hundreds of other boats in the procession merely provided numbers.

strake
4th Jun 2012, 22:57
And as a triumphant climax to the evening.............


The BBC have just put end credits all over last 20 seconds of the fireworks display.

You couldn't make it up.

aviate1138
4th Jun 2012, 23:00
Once again the BBC camera work/editors spoil the firework display by putting credits up long before the spectacular finale has ended!

On a previous Buck House broadcast the cameras missed so many of the aircraft and poorly positioned cameras made it less than spectacular anyway.

To have to watch a bandmasters bum and baton rather than see the RAF fly over was disgraceful. Also the BBC presenters seem to be more important than the actual events unfolding behind!

The licence fee is a joke - I am not holding my breath about the Olympics either......:rolleyes:

Pelikal
4th Jun 2012, 23:44
That p!ssed me of to. Brilliant coverage and BBC roll the credits right at the finale then cut to shite.

Tankertrashnav
5th Jun 2012, 00:06
Poor pommy peasants still believing in a mob of inbred germans who changed their family name to Windsor after the last world war to appease the ignorant masses.
Onya Madge LOL.

Very shaky grasp of history there - the name change occurred before the first world war, not after the second :=

corsair
5th Jun 2012, 00:42
I've plenty of time for the Queen but really I felt the whole jubilee is a bit of a damp squib.

Somehow I think it was all over hyped. The boat thing was a bit of farce really.

It was a bit like some form of attempt to hark back to other days.

Britain is a different country to the one she was crowned into back in the day. The media coverage was almost an attempt to recreate that.

This is the world of William the fifth. ER is no longer relevant. Lovely woman that she is. Sorry Charles.

Milo Minderbinder
5th Jun 2012, 00:52
what Jubilee? Was there a concert somewhere?

Radar66
5th Jun 2012, 01:19
Squealing Pig: Does Stevie Wonder & Will-I-Am know its not her birthday.
Her OFFICIAL birthday is always celebrated at the beginning of June. But yes, I'd expected better of Mr Wonder than the schmaltz that he put on tonight.


Tableview: At least Amy Winehouse wasn't there. She's dead.


Thoroughly enjoyed the concert but even I could tell that Cliff Richard was completely out of tune. High time you hung up the mic Sir.

Also cringeworthy was most of the so called 'comedians' who acted as link men but spent the whole time 'joking' about not having a knighthood. The only truly amusing one tonight was Peter Kay.

I have to say that the graphics on Buckingham Palace for the Madness song 'Our House' was fabulous! Felt odd Paul McCarthy not ending a concert with 'Hey Jude'. ;)

But all in all, a rollicking good show, demonstrating most of the musical genres.

Agree about the BBC's ineptitude at rolling the final credits over the fireworks display though. :ugh:

Tempsford
5th Jun 2012, 01:21
After a lot of planning by many people and the participation of even more, it has, in my humble opinion been a great spectacle. Yes, there were things that should have been done better, in hindsight that will always be so. This Pommy Peasant has enjoyed the efforts of all who have contributed to the Jubilee Celebrations over the past couple of days. Well done to all concerned.

reynoldsno1
5th Jun 2012, 01:48
Nice to see the Maori waka on the Thames - I heard that they had to get a special dispensation not to wear lifejackets from the Safety Nazis ...

Expert comment from the BBC bimbo regarding the diagnosis of Prince Philip's medical problems - "... well it was really wet and really freezing..." :ugh:

Worrals in the wilds
5th Jun 2012, 02:23
Nice to see the Maori waka on the Thames - I heard that they had to get a special dispensation not to wear lifejackets from the Safety Nazis ...
Agreed. They must have been freezing, too. :ok:

Milo Minderbinder
5th Jun 2012, 02:31
Waka?
I though 'twas called a Haka?
or were there some strange hand movements?

Worrals in the wilds
5th Jun 2012, 02:42
Haka.
http://www.gorentals.co.nz/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Maori-Haka-at-the-Maori-Museum.jpg

Waka.
http://www.grijalvo.com/Garvan/k_waka5_new_zealand_nz.jpg
At the end of the day there are only so many syllables to go around. ;)

Effluent Man
5th Jun 2012, 06:31
I'm with Phil on this one.Run for cover from all those appalling tin pan alley types.Probably been rimming Cristine Keeler again and copped a dose.Star of the show really.

Solid Rust Twotter
5th Jun 2012, 06:32
Didn't see any of the flotilla. Was there a Saffer contribution or was it sunk on the start line? Perhaps a Zim refugee fleeing across the river pursued by a crocodile?

Saw a couple of seconds of Sir Cliff trying desperately not to fall over. Radz has hit the nail on the head there I think.

Worrals in the wilds
5th Jun 2012, 06:53
Saw a couple of seconds of Sir Cliff trying desperately not to fall over. Radz has hit the nail on the head there I think. I didn't watch but even my dear mother said he was looking really past it, and she's not much younger than he is. :hmm:
Was there a Saffer contribution or was it sunk on the start line? I didn't see any but that doesn't mean there wasn't one, because I didn't watch the whole thing. The Aussie media were their usual parochial selves; 'There's an Aussie, there's an Aussie, there's a Kiwi, oh, that's the Queen but back to the Aussies...':rolleyes:

Tableview
5th Jun 2012, 07:12
I didn't see any South African contribution but I wasn't giving it more attention than it deserved - about 30%!

Definitely thought the best part was the 'Our House' illumination. I enjoyed Rolf Harris too, he has a lovely manner about him and is very modest. Stevie Wonder is past it, but I guess he can't see that. Sir Paul and Elton are getting there too. I'm not sorry I watched it, but I won't be keeping the recording.

Prince Charles is good value, his speech was excellent, they really should give him more airtime, and Camilla is a worthy companion to him, she looked radiant.

Savoia
5th Jun 2012, 07:38
This is a proud moment for Britain!

Well done and many congratulations from your former foes in Italy!

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-QUVfuCBshSY/T82nLjPZjGI/AAAAAAAAJCc/pPNJF4VLMnc/s0-d/Italia%2Bsupporting%2BJubilee.jpg

rgsaero
5th Jun 2012, 07:45
I couldn't help thinking that no other country could put on two shows like that.

But the best thing for me was that I didn't see a single politician throughout. Perhaps the country would be better off being run by the people who fixed these gigs rather than the politicos....

Tableview
5th Jun 2012, 08:00
Perhaps the country would be better off being run by the people who fixed these gigs rather than the politicos....
That's for sure.

Reflecting on it, I can't help thinking that a concert by the Royal Philharmonic Orchestra including some of the traditional classics by composers like Handel might have been more dignified and fitting than a rock concert.

ORAC
5th Jun 2012, 09:08
What I want to know is when the traditional Venetian gondolier costume became a tracksuit with bobble hat? :confused:

Tankertrashnav
5th Jun 2012, 09:28
This is the world of William the fifth. ER is no longer relevant. Lovely woman that she is. Sorry Charles.

Other than Charles predeceasing the Queen I would say there is absolutely no chance that the monarchy will pass directly to his son - the monarchy isn't a popularity contest, it will be Charles's turn and he'll take it. Also dont forget when he eventually does become King, William wont necessarily rule under that name, he could pick Arthur, Philip or Louis if he so desired.

sitigeltfel
5th Jun 2012, 09:53
I didn't see any South African contribution The sea cadet flotilla carried the flags of all the commonwealth countries.

What I want to know is when the traditional Venetian gondolier costume became a tracksuit with bobble hat?Maybe its their "away" strip ;)

RedhillPhil
5th Jun 2012, 10:03
Does Stevie Wonder & Will-I-Am know its not her birthday.

And what were they doing there - and Renee Fleming. Couldn't we manage a line up of all British and Commonwealth performers. Still, look on the bright side, the Welsh Barbie doll Jenkins and Lesley bl00dy Garret weren't there.

RedhillPhil
5th Jun 2012, 10:06
Squealing Pig:
Her OFFICIAL birthday is always celebrated at the beginning of June. But yes, I'd expected better of Mr Wonder than the schmaltz that he put on tonight.


Tableview: She's dead.


Thoroughly enjoyed the concert but even I could tell that Cliff Richard was completely out of tune. High time you hung up the mic Sir.

Nothing new there old fruit.

Also cringeworthy was most of the so called 'comedians' who acted as link men but spent the whole time 'joking' about not having a knighthood. The only truly amusing one tonight was Peter Kay.

I have to say that the graphics on Buckingham Palace for the Madness song 'Our House' was fabulous! Felt odd Paul McCarthy not ending a concert with 'Hey Jude'. ;)

But all in all, a rollicking good show, demonstrating most of the musical genres.

Agree about the BBC's ineptitude at rolling the final credits over the fireworks display though. :ugh:

......................................

goudie
5th Jun 2012, 10:07
Wot Radz said...spot on!

Hobo
5th Jun 2012, 10:51
rgsaero But the best thing for me was that I didn't see a single politician throughout.

It was all spoilt for me when the camera kept catching 'Porky' Cameron on and off throughout the concert. He always seemed to be eating. Although not a polly, what was Seb 'waste of space and all round smug f&%ker' Coe doing with an invite?

IMHO the only good thing about the earlier parade was the BBC's gorgeous Sophie Rayworth....

I'm not an out and out monarchist, but as Ben Elton says, I'd rather have someone who has to do it, rather than someone who wants to do it. What really gets me is all this sycophantic grovelling and deference...give me the Dutch or Danish way any time.

Worrals in the wilds
5th Jun 2012, 10:52
What I want to know is when the traditional Venetian gondolier costume became a tracksuit with bobble hat? http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/confused.gifBet the Maori and the SLSC clubbies wished they'd thought of that. Agreed, the Italians looked great (and warm :ok:). Kudos to all the people in small boats that aren't really designed for a long paddle on such a big river.

Out of interest, if you fall in the Thames do you still need immediate medical care? The first time I went to London someone fell in and the newspapers were full of reports along the lines of 'X has received fifteen vaccinations and doctors hope he'll be fine, he hasn't come out in pustules yet'. :ooh:

Cliff and Kylie can't sing. We all love 'em, they put on a great show, but they just can't sing, bless them.
Grace Jones still seems to have it, though I only saw an excerpt. Same with Miss Bassey. Tom Jones seems a bit creepy, but he probably always did and we just didn't notice. :ouch:

Light show looked good.

Radar66
5th Jun 2012, 10:59
Forgot to add... loved 'Sing' - both the tune and the concept.

Elton John and Paul McCarthy can both still belt out a good tune AND keep an audience in thrall - that's quite something. Geniuses, the pair of'em.

Here's hoping for a speedy recovery for the DoE.

tony draper
5th Jun 2012, 11:04
Didn't see any of it,like a true Englishman I watched James Bond instead and was utterly confused, also Peter Griffin's fight with the giant chicken is more believable than Bonds scuffles in that movie.
:rolleyes:

The SSK
5th Jun 2012, 11:05
Worrals: Out of interest, if you fall in the Thames do you still need immediate medical care?

Some talking head on Sunday said that the Thames was the cleanest metropolitan river in Europe – or was it the world?

Garbage, literally. See here
Rowers Against Thames Sewage (http://www.thamessewage.co.uk/)
TwRC TOP OF THE POTS (http://www.twrc.rowing.org.uk/totp/song86.htm)

It did clean up a lot, but in recent years it's got much worse

Savoia
5th Jun 2012, 11:14
What I want to know is when the traditional Venetian gondolier costume became a tracksuit with bobble hat?
It didn't!

Out of interest, if you fall in the Thames do you still need immediate medical care?
As far as I know the UK's second longest river is still classified as 'polluted' despite (so it is suggested) being one of the cleanest rivers to run through a major city.

Fertiliser pollution lives on in the River Thames (http://planetearth.nerc.ac.uk/news/story.aspx?id=1125)

Worrals in the wilds
5th Jun 2012, 11:16
Here's hoping for a speedy recovery for the DoE. Hear Hear. :ok:
Thanks for the links, SSK and Savoia. I wouldn't want to go swimming in any river with a city on it :eek: (been there, done that, involved alcohol, didn't catch anything :ouch:). Ours gets the odd stray dolphin, but you figure that after the event they're doing interviews on dolphin TV about the hideous conditions they endured while On Patrol in the Human Heartland. :\
Oh, the dolphinity! :}

Lon More
5th Jun 2012, 11:26
Maybe a snakey length of garden hose down the inside leg would have offered the DoE some relief. With all the rain nobody would have noticed and it might give another meaning to "shake a leg"?

Ancient Observer
5th Jun 2012, 11:51
My brain, such as it is, has never given a nano-second's thought to that band called "Madness". I think I might have heard of them, once, deep in the past when I was probably thinking about/doing something else.

Having said all that, although the words are inane, I thought the performance by Madness was very good indeed, greatly helped by the piccies on our resident Greek's London pad.

603DX
5th Jun 2012, 12:53
I clicked on the concert a couple of times when it was already in progress, to get the flavour of it and decide whether it was worth watching more. Didn't take long. What I saw (Elton John performing poorly, and some insipid gingery youth warbling weakly to a guitar after apparently being pulled through a hedge backwards) was more than enough. To be fair, that sort of thing isn't really my bag, anyway.

I was quite chuffed to catch glimpses of my old office in the background, Portland House, still looming its 26 storeys over the area close to the palace. The office royalty-freak used to keep a pair of binoculars in his desk, to rubberneck on the summer garden parties.

The SSK
5th Jun 2012, 13:04
I’m really disappointed that McCartney didn’t do ‘Her Majesty’

Her Majesty's a pretty nice girl,
but she doesn't have a lot to say
Her Majesty's a pretty nice girl
but she changes from day to day

I want to tell her that I love her a lot
But I gotta get a bellyful of wine
Her Majesty's a pretty nice girl
Someday I'm going to make her mine, oh yeh,
someday I'm going to make her mine.

El Grifo
5th Jun 2012, 13:12
Nice collection of German automotive technology in the convoy to St Paul's.

Backing Britain or what !!!

Storminnorm
5th Jun 2012, 14:03
WAS it German technology when they bought it though ???

Most of it was pretty OLD.

Madness have always been one of my favourite bands of nutters.

sitigeltfel
5th Jun 2012, 14:15
Out of interest, if you fall in the Thames do you still need immediate medical care? David Walliams, the actor/comedian who swam the length of the Thames last Autumn, nearly had to give up after getting a dose of the squits.

El Grifo
5th Jun 2012, 14:38
The Bike and the Van were. The other stuff pre-dated the big sell-off :yuk:

RJM
5th Jun 2012, 14:43
Backing Britain or what !!!

Can't see them squashed into a Morgan, or a McLaren...

El Grifo
5th Jun 2012, 14:50
Plus the fact that Triumph and the trusty Transit are consigned to history !!!

RJM
5th Jun 2012, 14:54
I've just got home to watch the royal procession through London.

What a show. Pomp and pageantry, and thankfully invisible security. Absolutely superb, and flawless coverage from the BBC, I assume. Well done Britain!

Clare Prop
5th Jun 2012, 15:01
Well I loved watching all the beautiful horses. Especially the naughty ones. And seeing the soldiers having to stoicly march through all the horse poo.

Feel rather proud to be English today... I bet there is an amazing atmosphere in London today. Nice to see so many happy faces. Sad old Phil the Greek is missing out.

dazdaz1
5th Jun 2012, 15:05
Lon More

I fear the DoE admittance to hospital may be coupled with more concerns than to a bladder infection, after four plus hours on the Royal Barge in the cold and rain. I suspect the doctors would be taking into account (with treatment) the possibility of a phenomena (not sure of spelling) infection arising.

The Duke is a hardy man. May he recover soon. God Bless The Queen!!!

Daz

Storminnorm
5th Jun 2012, 15:34
Yes, I think they overdid things floating about on the Thames.

HM The Q did have a blanket at one stage.
But NO-ONE made either of them a cup of tea !!!!

Pussers' Kye would have been better, with a double tot.

Disgraceful I think.

And it was BL**DY cold.

603DX
5th Jun 2012, 16:13
I watched almost all of the river pageant on Sunday, and some time during the first hour, the Queen and Duke went below deck and spent some time where the facilities are located on the 'Spirit of Chartwell'. Amongst the drivel being churned out by the BBC commentators, I'm reasonably sure that the magic word 'refreshments' was mentioned. It would be very surprising indeed if these didn't include dainty sarnies, cakes and the very British cups of tea that so many keep saying they didn't have!

Incidentally, I have been wondering why the 'Royal Barge' was specifically named after Churchill's private home here in Kent. I'm a very strong admirer of him (I froze for many hours on that bitter January day of his funeral in 1965, standing on the windswept pavement at the top of Whitehall), but I don't see the direct relevance of his delightful house, which I have visited many times, to the Queen's Diamond Jubilee celebrations. He was one of no less than 12 PMs with whom HM has held audiences over those 60 years, after all.

Torque Tonight
5th Jun 2012, 16:25
HM is probably fonder of Churchill than she is of many subsequent PMs. Perhaps they could have named the barge 'Tony & Gordon' and scuttled the thing.

Milo Minderbinder
5th Jun 2012, 16:37
"Incidentally, I have been wondering why the 'Royal Barge' was specifically named after Churchill's private home here in Kent."

The simple answer is that its not a real Royal Barge. Its a former Rhine cruising boat moved to the Thames for cruising / entertainment for hooray henries allegedly using furniture from old Pullman Coaches
It was borrowed and tarted up for the Royal party just for the weekend. It goes back to its normal clientele in a week or so.
Presumably the name was chosen to evoke a certain aura of wasteful expense among the stock brokers and bankers who can afford to hire it

Mr Optimistic
5th Jun 2012, 16:38
Yeah I was wondering about the tea situation. I would have gone about 20mins before whining about tea, ciggie and cold. Good on HM. Mind you icing on cake has been the well dedeserved slating of the infantileBBC. Were the Countryfile producers in charge ?

Flap 5
5th Jun 2012, 16:43
Incidentally, I have been wondering why the 'Royal Barge' was specifically named after Churchill's private home here in Kent.

The Royal Barge already had that name before it was converted to become the Royal Barge for the day. It wasn't built especially for the occasion.

Spirit of Chartwell - OFFICIAL WEBSITE. Luxury Cruises on the River Thames, London (http://www.spiritofchartwell.com/)

603DX
5th Jun 2012, 17:10
I did not know that, but now I do. Thanks!

A quick glance at typical prices shows the day cruises with meals, etc are not cheap, but neither are they exorbitant for a special occasion IMHO.

Krystal n chips
5th Jun 2012, 17:40
" Were the Countryfile producers in charge "

Whilst I agree about the cherubic faced "away man pet, this is all abooot ME" geordie presenter ( apologies to all other Geordies at this point) Countryfile usually has some very interesting articles.

The irony to all the deserved and crticised BBC coverage is that, on the same evening, they showed what they can do with "Coast".... a fascinating article about 518Sqdn's Met oberservers..including a gentleman who flew with them...and BBC4 had a programme showing why Microsoft were 2000 yrs behind the times..the Greeks got there first it seems

Anyway, look at this way....that's one down and three to go in terms of broadcasts of a similar nature in the foreseable future...so be prepared for more of the same....the really sad bit ?...the Beebs royal correspondent didn't fall into the Thames....no loss as they say.

beaufort1
5th Jun 2012, 17:42
Queen is going to broadcast to the nation at 1800. Unusual. :8

Tableview
5th Jun 2012, 17:54
As far as I know it's a scheduled programme, probably pre-recorded. I don't think it's anything unusual.

beaufort1
5th Jun 2012, 17:57
It was recorded yesterday before the concert. Apart from her Christmas message, I can't think of too many times she has broadcast to the nation. I think she said a few words on the death of Diana.

beaufort1
5th Jun 2012, 18:03
After all that she just said thank you. :}

rgbrock1
5th Jun 2012, 18:03
Perhaps she's going to broadcast her thanks to the nation for the celebration in her honor?

vulcanised
5th Jun 2012, 18:04
Although this has been a great occasion which HM thoroughly deserves, I can't help feeling that it may mark the beginning of the end for the royal family as we know it today.

Charles will never enjoy the widespread affection felt for his mother and father, and by the time he is succeeded it will be too late to regain the status quo.

Capot
5th Jun 2012, 18:11
After all that she just said thank you. http://images.ibsrv.net/ibsrv/res/src:www.pprune.org/get/images/smilies/badteeth.gif

I take it that you are aggrieved by that. Just out of curiosity, what do you think she should have said instead?

Or are you simply looking for a more gushing way of saying "thank you"?

It's odd how many people think that simple expressions of gratitude, fear, grief or sympathy only have meaning if they are carried in an outpouring of superfluous verbiage.

"Thank you" says it all and needs no embellishment.

beaufort1
5th Jun 2012, 18:23
Why should I be aggrieved by that? Look back and read it in the context of the conversation.:hmm:

mustpost
5th Jun 2012, 20:58
Without wishing to drift over to another thread, this is interesting, particularly if you view the proceedings from 'oop 'ere'. And I used to work for 'Auntie'....
The BBC's Queen's jubilee propaganda failed in Scotland | Mike Small | Comment is free | guardian.co.uk (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/jun/05/bbc-jubilee-propagandising-failed-scotland?newsfeed=true)
Not a bad reflection..

Capot
5th Jun 2012, 20:58
Why should I be aggrieved by that?Well,

After all that she just said thank you. :}If you didn't mean to imply a criticism, especially with the :} at the end, you fooled me!

garp
5th Jun 2012, 21:27
Outstanding spectacle (from what I saw on the tube). You Britons know how to do things in style. :D

Ancient Observer
6th Jun 2012, 12:21
BBC News - Pilot's view during Jubilee flypast of Buckingham Palace (http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-18334001)

tony draper
6th Jun 2012, 13:10
Oft wondered why they do those palace flypasts so high,why don't they come down to a couple of hundred feet and make em more interesting.
:confused:

Blacksheep
6th Jun 2012, 13:33
The bomb release didn't work. :rolleyes:

bob johns
6th Jun 2012, 13:43
AY black sheep If you had leadership like we have here (this week ) you would want to wash your mouth out!

G-CPTN
6th Jun 2012, 13:45
I did wonder whether there was any risk during the feu de joie for any of them to have a live round.

Perhaps they didn't have 'line of sight' to the balcony?

sisemen
6th Jun 2012, 14:15
It's over a very, very populated area - not including HRHs pad. Minimum height over populated areas for flying is 1,000 ft - then add a bit for safety and HRH.

It always looks a lot higher from the cockpit which is why a lot get killed doing a "low fly by" when they misjudge the height of the tree or whatever.

Blacksheep
6th Jun 2012, 14:37
It agrees the balcony appearance was a "carefully constructed" tableau of "dynasty, succession, continuity" - only essential royals were selected. (from The Times)
The message wasn't just carried on the balcony, I noticed it earlier when the "minor royalty" included Prince Charles's brothers and sisters were sent off to the cathedral without William and Harry. Then the main team left together from Clarence House and only this "A" Team - Prince Charles, and his children (plus spouses where applicable] - waited at the door to greet Her Majesty. [i.e. 1st, 2nd and 3rd in Line]

If this means that "The Royal Family" is being being pared down to just the Monarch and those in the direct line of descent, then I'm all in favour.

G-CPTN
6th Jun 2012, 14:50
Yes, things were getting out of hand (in recent years) with the balcony being strained by the number of lesser royals being crowded on there.

Whilst I am in favour of 'the Royal Family' (ie direct in-line descendants) there are a lot of 'spares' (some of whom, nevertheless, are doing their own thing to help support themselves) and I think this doesn't do the cause of the Monarchy any favours.

Groundbased
6th Jun 2012, 15:34
[QUOTE=Charles will never enjoy the widespread affection felt for his mother and father, and by the time he is succeeded it will be too late to regain the status quo.[/QUOTE]

I don't know. I think back to the time when Diana died, I think their popularity then was at an extremely low ebb. They seem to have reinvented themselves pretty well and come back to be very popular again. I think Charles could do this in his own right.

Storminnorm
6th Jun 2012, 15:46
It's no good moaning about the Royals.
The fact that they exist does an awful lot MORE good for this
Country than having just some old President elected by the
Power Brokers.

Ancient Observer
6th Jun 2012, 16:20
I'm surprised they let those old jalopies fly over London at all. Single engine/single pilot and all that. I bet they wouldn't let them do it if they were being paid. Does the CAA temporarily pass over the airspace to the military, so they take the risk?

RedhillPhil
6th Jun 2012, 17:03
Sorry, apologies. Naive question from a poor old ex railwayman in-bound.
There was a river pageant showing all manner of watercraft from the ages...
Couldn't a flypast include all manner of aircraft from the ages? I'm sure that there's a Meteor and a Vampire out there somewhere and all of those lovely Hunters. I'm fairly sure that there's a Tornado F3 still about at Boscombe.

bnt
6th Jun 2012, 17:38
The Boston Globe "Big Picture" site has lots of good pictures of the weekend's events = here (http://www.boston.com/bigpicture/2012/06/diamond_jubilee_uk_celebrates.html). There sure are some nutters back in Blighty ... :ok:

Krystal n chips
6th Jun 2012, 17:47
" There sure are some nutters back in Blighty"

Actually, the term we prefer is....eccentrics.....although on second thoughts...;)

Makes some of the erm, performances at your primaries, seem almost benign..... in comparison....:D

G-CPTN
6th Jun 2012, 17:51
Couldn't a flypast include all manner of aircraft from the ages?
I believe that the aircraft had to be currently on the RAF 'payroll' - which excluded the Vulcan (notwithstanding that the Vulcan is currently hors de combat - having ingested sachets of silica gel and destroying two engines).

603DX
6th Jun 2012, 17:53
I'm surprised they let those old jalopies fly over London at all. Single engine/single pilot and all that. I bet they wouldn't let them do it if they were being paid. Does the CAA temporarily pass over the airspace to the military, so they take the risk?


Interesting that you raise this point, AO. Back in the sixties I was working in Portland House, the tower block close to Buckingham Palace. We noticed that the Duke of Edinburgh regularly flew a single engined Westland helicopter of the Queen's Flight into the back gardens, passing fairly close to our building. So I made some phone calls to the CAA and the MoD to enquire how this was permitted. We were aware that single engined machines normally had to follow the course of the Thames, it being considered "safer" for a ditching to occur rather than risking a forced landing in built-up areas. The answer given was that the chopper was an RAF operated and maintained machine, with what were claimed to be "first class maintenance standards". When I said that presumably the painted-on RAF roundels provided some sort of magic talisman to guard against engine failure, they rang off ... :rolleyes:

Flap 5
6th Jun 2012, 17:54
Generally only twin engined (or multi engined) aircraft are allowed over London. Single engined helicopters are allowed along a specific route which is mostly along the Thames. An engine failure in a single engined aircraft over central London could be disastrous. Even the Queen and the Powers That Be cannot change the laws of physics. From around a thousand feet at least a pilot would have some chance of finding a safe place to crash.

The Read Arrows are quite a problem with nine single engined aircraft. The older World War 2 aircraft are even more problematic, although they are serviced to a high standard. So far there has never been a significant problem.

elandel
6th Jun 2012, 17:57
Ancient Observer:


Does the CAA temporarily pass over the airspace to the military, so they take the risk?

We wish! Heathrow or Thames stick them in a suitable gap and it usually works!

Widger
6th Jun 2012, 19:40
The Torygraph summed up the River Pageant beautifully!

The Queen's Diamond Jubilee: BBC drowns in celebrities - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/the_queens_diamond_jubilee/9309932/The-Queens-Diamond-Jubilee-BBC-drowns-in-celebrities.html#)

Tableview
7th Jun 2012, 08:35
What they said :
long-term unemployed jobseekers

What it means :
Parasitic idle layabouts living on benefits.

I'm glad somebody has had the spine to do this and make them appear to be doing something useful.

(It seems that a previous post was deleted meaning mine is now out of context! The subject was that 'long-term unemployed jobskeers' were bussed to London and made to work without being paid. Good.)

Blacksheep
7th Jun 2012, 13:23
The answer given was that the chopper was an RAF operated and maintained machine, with what were claimed to be "first class maintenance standards".In the 70s we had three Whirlwind HCC10s and a HCC12 the same as Prince Phillip's jalopy on 32 Sqn at Northolt. Later we added an SA341 Gazelle HCC1 as personal transport for the CDS. Despite being RAF operated and maintained to first class standards (same as ordinary standards, but using a lot more Wadpol) they were only permitted to fly into London's Battersea Heliport along the river. Schermuly flares were not permitted at any time, so we put them on and took them off at Northolt before they proceeded down the Thames.

603DX
7th Jun 2012, 13:38
Blacksheep, does this mean that the frequent flights into and out of the Palace garden were carried out by someone "bending the rules"? Surely not! Heaven forfend, and all that! ;)

ORAC
7th Jun 2012, 14:55
Tableview: What they said : long-term unemployed jobseekers
What it means : Parasitic idle layabouts living on benefits.

I'm glad somebody has had the spine to do this and make them appear to be doing something useful.

(It seems that a previous post was deleted meaning mine is now out of context! The subject was that 'long-term unemployed jobskeers' were bussed to London and made to work without being paid. Good.)


Grauniad obviously taking a briefing from Labour spin merchants lying through their teeth and not checking - quelle surprise...

Guido Fawkes: Named Sources Contradict Anonymous “Slave Labour” Attack (http://order-order.com/2012/06/07/named-sources-contradict-anonymous-slave-labour-attack/#comments)

Pelikal
7th Jun 2012, 19:01
Back to the concert, I just had to watch the Madness illuminations on the Palace again on iPlayer. (about 2:41:17 into the video) Whether you like the band or not, how can anybody be not impressed by that graphic display? I found it overwhelming. One of the artists, Richard Barnett of Trunk Animation, was interviewed on BBC breakfast on June 6th. Available on iPlayer. Very interesting, true talent in my view. I hope this show gains the enterprise more work of this nature and I wish them every success.

What is astonishing also is the short time they produced it in and only one dress rehearsal.

With reference to posts 96, 97 and my post 98 concerning the titles appearing over the finale, I recently had a thought about this. Now, I love Rolf Harris but a) why pick such a dreary damn song and b) he clearly dragged it out and over ran his time slot!! Lenny was ushering Rolf to finish but he sort of carried on. This could have caused things to run late, hence the credits overlapping the finale. Just a thought.

charliegolf
7th Jun 2012, 19:34
Pelikal:

I understood Rolf had been pressed into action to cover up a gap in proceedings, and did so willingly.

CG

Pelikal
7th Jun 2012, 23:07
CG, thanks for clarification, I've since heard that to. I guess he had to improvise. Absolutely no disrespect to the chap intended.:O

aviate1138
8th Jun 2012, 06:46
IF I had been Rolf Harris I would have punched Lenny Henry's lights out. No respect for a multi talented artist.

Rolf gets better with age - Lenny Henry - worse......

Rolf Harris - Two Little Boys at the Jubilee Concert - YouTube

Blacksheep
8th Jun 2012, 08:00
No 603DX, I think it means the rules were changed after the Queen's Flight Whirlwind crash. The remaining HCC12 was then assigned to 32 Sqn and HMQF were issued with the twin engined Wessex.

[Of course, despite having two engines, the Wessex still had a single Main Rotor Gearbox with the Pilot Cooling Fan held on with a single "Jesus Nut" :rolleyes: ]

Flap 5
8th Jun 2012, 09:13
The military do not come under CAA rules and regs. They have their own rules which are very similar but with certain differences which allow them to do their military bit.

When the Queen uses a civil helicopter into Buckingham Place a Sikorsky S76 is used - a twin engined helicopter. Indeed it only has one main gearbox, one main rotor, one rotor mast and a jesus nut holding it all on. But then you have to take some risks, you just minimise the risk. You can be sure the quality control of the rotor mast and jesus nut is to a very high standard.

Ancient Observer
8th Jun 2012, 12:09
One thing I missed about the Royals and the polis all going to St Pauls was the Ticket Window.

I assume they all stopped and coughed up the £15 for all over 18s.

I wish the BBC coverage had included them stopping and finding the cash and/or digging out their credit cards.

As there were a few of them, may be they got the Group rate of £14.

Anyway, now we know why Phil the Greek did not go along. He's too tight to cough up the £15.00.

For the Americans tuning in - is it true that you had to suffer Piers Morgan with all this royal stuff?

tony draper
8th Jun 2012, 12:15
Mrs Queen dont have to pay she owns the bloody place.:rolleyes:

Ancient Observer
8th Jun 2012, 12:19
Last time I went there, they said I had to pay. I said that I owned the place as a taxpayer and lapsed churchgoer.

They didn't accept my excuse - why accept hers?

MagnusP
8th Jun 2012, 12:21
I thought you had to pay to visit, but not to attend a service.

tony draper
8th Jun 2012, 12:45
You should have told em you were the Boss of the Church of England like she is.:rolleyes:

james ozzie
8th Jun 2012, 20:37
I did not follow the big concert but I saw a news shot of Miss Queenie - her expression was priceless. A mixture of stony-faced and just plain terrified. I could not blame her, after seeing the apparation jiggling in a hoola hoop. She looked far more at ease at her service in St Pauls.

cavortingcheetah
9th Jun 2012, 07:03
Polly Toynbee could amuse you if you are of the royal wastrel inclination and indulgently justify the squandering of your bucks on another's bling.
She's a total bigot (that's PT, the other one is a committed dynastic) and racist and elitist and sexist and neatly embodies every quality that one would not wish to find before one's toecaps on the pavement. Nonetheless, for some of the people, some of the time, she gets it right and therefore is worth a gander from time to time. That's all perhaps the finest string of compliments she's ever been paid.

Queen's diamond jubilee: a vapid family and a mirage of nationhood. What's to celebrate? | Polly Toynbee | Comment is free | The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2012/may/31/queen-diamond-jublilee-why-celebrate)

Edited to illustrate that PT usually writes for that twisted and crippled journalistic organ, The Guardian and not for the less prejudiced and often more erudite Daily Mail.

PinkusDickus
9th Jun 2012, 07:39
For those interested in affairs of the wider realm, here is one of your countrywomen (yes, she was born in Wales) showing her utter contempt by refusing to join in "God Save the Queen".

Anybody in the old country want her back? Silly question really - sorry to have even thought of it! :ugh:


Julia Gillard lights beacon for QUEEN ELIZABETH II DIAMOND JUBILEE - YouTube

To save you the discomfort of watching the entire video, the pursed lips and smug look starts about 7:20, and Gillard is the one with what looks like an upturned bucket on her head.

sitigeltfel
9th Jun 2012, 08:05
Edited to illustrate that PT usually writes for that twisted and crippled journalistic organ, The Guardian and not for the less prejudiced and often more erudite Daily Mail.

Your sarcasm has returned to bite you.

The Guardian newspaper has just run an article by a political leader whose foundational charter advocates the murder of Jews and promotes conspiracy theories that would not have looked out of place in Nazi Germany.

Let’s not even get into the question of Hamas‘s attitude to gays and women – they support hanging the former and suppressing the latter. The Commentator - Is the Guardian the most bigoted newspaper in Britain? (http://www.thecommentator.com/article/1293/is_the_guardian_the_most_bigoted_newspaper_in_britain_)

Tankertrashnav
9th Jun 2012, 09:34
I thought you had to pay to visit, but not to attend a service.


Quite correct Magnus, no charge if you are attending a service.

The only time I ever visited St Pauls was to attend evensong one Good Friday. The cathedral was closed for 30 minutes while visitors left and meanwhile those of us who were attending the service queued outside. I mentioned something about the service to Mrs TTN and an Australian backpacker in front of us turned and said "Oh, is this a church then?", picked up his pack and sloped off :ugh:

Krystal n chips
9th Jun 2012, 12:09
Part 1....

BBC's diamond jubilee coverage draws 4,500 complaints | Media | The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2012/jun/08/bbc-diamond-jubilee-coverage-complaints)

Back to the workhouse | Society | The Guardian (http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2012/jun/08/jubilee-stewards-unpaid-labour-growing)

Part 2... To describe Polly Toynbee as a "bigot" would suggest a review of the OED definition of the term is in order....by comparision, describing many who post on here as such would be entirely justified....as would the sentiments expressed towards them...now, to the difficult to understand and comprehend bit..for some that is.

Simply because the Guardian publishes an article concerning a topic that many could, and frequently do, take exception to, does not infer or imply support for the subject of the article....what the article does do however, is offer the reader to be made more aware of the issues involved and from a perspective they wouldn't be able to gain if the article had not been published.

I don't have to agree with the idealogies being expressed, and many I find to be abhorrent, but, and this is the bit where Mail / Torygraph readers and Sun perusers may wish to check their BP...by virtue of reading about the subject, you gain a better understanding ....the word for having this wish is.... for the by now completely irate and incandescent with rage ....pragmatic.

When the PIRA were active at their peak, there was a ban on reporting anything Gerry Adams said...too damn right !..some on here will say...but the Guardian did publish his comments...thankfully. Before the usual "left fluffy huggers" bile begins, I am certainly no supporter of the PIRA...however, as time progressed and the carnage continued, it began to dawn that maybe, just maybe, there was a reason for all this...and if so, what was it...enter the long and complex governance of N.I. with all the tragedy that has entailed over the years.

For the really confused on here...it's known as having an open mind along with a capacity to think for yourself.

pulse1
9th Jun 2012, 14:11
On "Have I Got News for You", Ian Hislop was brilliantly and hilariously scathing about the BBC coverage of the Pageant. He was actually on the river bank and claimed that the celebrity distorted picture of the event was nothing like the real thing.

Storminnorm
9th Jun 2012, 15:11
It looked OK on my telly.
In fact there was NO escaping it as far as I could see.

No wonder Phil threw a sickie. Very wise move.

Tankertrashnav
9th Jun 2012, 16:19
One of the best bits about jubilees, royal weddings and the like is the way it pisses off republicans and the North London chattering classes who are normally so convinced that their anti-royalist views are shared by the majority. The sight of hundreds of thousands thronging the mall all waving flags and having a good time must really have put them off their dinners (or should I say "their kitchen suppers"!)

Further to pulse 1's remarks, Ian Hislop managed to make the nonentity comedian who was slagging off the pageant look a total idiot. Hislop for next mayor of London I say!

Simply because the Guardian publishes an article concerning a topic that many could, and frequently do, take exception to, does not infer or imply support for the subject of the article...

K&C - you really must sort your "infer" and "imply" out.

Example -

If I tell you this woman I know has a job where she dresses up in a short skirt and stands on the pavement swinging her handbag, I may be implying she is a prostitute and you may infer she is a prostitute.

Easy! ;)

Matari
9th Jun 2012, 16:30
Tanker...leave Pippa out of this!

(did I infer incorrectly?) :}

http://www.bohomoth.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/pippa-middleton-party11-e1338286978517.jpg

sitigeltfel
9th Jun 2012, 20:04
D of E discharged from hospital.....

Asked outside the hospital if he was feeling better, the duke said dryly: "Well, I wouldn't be coming out if I wasn't."Firing on all cylinders, I would say :ok:

El Grifo
10th Jun 2012, 10:14
And yet there are still people who think this perfectly acceptable behavior for the husband of the Monarch, a Monarchy in its elder form, which expects every bow and scrape known to mankind :ugh:

bnt
10th Jun 2012, 10:17
On "Eight Out Of Ten Cats", a few odd bits of trivia have been coming out. Apparently, the reason the Royals stood all the way down the Thames was that the chairs were totally soaked by rain within minutes. Though they didn't actually stand all the way - they got to go below and fortify themselves with mugs of tea and (allegedly) had a bottle of rum there to top them up ...

The host of the show, Jimmy Carr, says he was as shocked as anyone else to be asked to co-host the concert. He only got the call at 3-o'clock on the day, and was clearly no-one's first choice. "One up from Frankie Boyle" was how he put it. Now that would have been something to see ... :}

I missed most of the concert (by choice), so I didn't see Grace Jones and her hula hoop. Growing old gracefully, I see. :ok:

parabellum
11th Jun 2012, 01:16
One of the best bits about jubilees, royal weddings and the like is the way it pisses off republicans and the North London chattering classes who are normally so convinced that their anti-royalist views are shared by the majority.


So true, so true and it is the empty vessels that make the most noise.

Adam Nams
11th Jun 2012, 03:15
To save you the discomfort of watching the entire video, the pursed lips and smug look starts about 7:20, and Gillard is the one with what looks like an upturned bucket on her head.

A very clever camera angle makes it look as if she is being burned at the stake.

:D

Blacksheep
11th Jun 2012, 07:53
You can be sure the quality control of the rotor mast and jesus nut is to a very high standard. The point is, the Whirlwind HCC12 of HM Queen's Flight that crashed with the loss of all on board was caused by failure of the main rotor shaft due to a manufacturing fault - a quality escape of the first magnitude. It had nothing to do with the aircraft being single-engined. The failure could just as well have occurred with HRH at the controls, approaching Buckingham Palace - and that still applies to twin-engine machines overflying the city today. A cursory glance at the Airworthiness Directives and accident reports involving both civil and military helicopter types will show that quality control of main rotor gearboxes and rotor heads at the manufacturing stage has improved little over the past twenty or thirty years. :(

603DX
11th Jun 2012, 13:04
So it seems we weren't sufficiently concerned about the potential hazards of flybys and overflights by HRH's back-garden whirlybird back in the sixties! We should have added anxiety over fatigue of its rotor shaft at undetected micro-cracks, to our unease about possible single-engine failure. Just as well that these pesky manufacturing defects in shafts and gearboxes don't occur very often, then ... :uhoh:

603DX
11th Jun 2012, 14:03
To save you the discomfort of watching the entire video, the pursed lips and smug look starts about 7:20, and Gillard is the one with what looks like an upturned bucket on her head.

Having never heard the lady's speaking voice before, I was rather surprised at its, how shall I say, "broadness" of accent. Most of the splendid Oz folk I have met, worked with and befriended possess a distinctive, melodious twang in conversational speech, pleasant to the ear. Yet her mode of expression seems well outside this normal range to my ear, and reminiscent of someone, somewhere ...

Ah yes, this is it!!

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rotornut
13th Jun 2012, 13:21
PressTV - UK Queen's giant image looks down on Spain from Gibraltar (http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2012/06/13/245980/uk-queen-gibraltar/)