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Loose rivets
26th May 2012, 20:19
She obviously didn't want to go - he should have just kicked the old buggah out.:}


You'll Never Want to Skydive After Watching This (http://gizmodo.com/5913320/youll-never-want-to-skydive-after-watching-this)

G-CPTN
26th May 2012, 20:31
A similar incident occurred recently with a young woman, though the results weren't as positive - she fell from the instructor's grasp and fell . . .

A Googoo search reveals that it isn't a unique occurrence (failing to survive a parachute jump).

I know two personal friends who suffered broken ankles when parachuting. One is permanently on crutches.

Loose rivets
26th May 2012, 20:37
It was on my bucket list, but now, with a hurty back and malfunction warning lights coming on from other aging components, I'll probably give it a miss.

A mate made one jump when he was in his twenties. His enduring memory is of his feet, gliding along over the green fields, with nowt under them but the shoe leather.

G-CPTN
26th May 2012, 20:47
My son decided to undertake a jump when he was in his twenties.
He was thwarted by inclement weather on the several days when he reported for the jump.
Eventually his basic training qualification expired and he never got around to renewing this so he didn't get to jump.

Now that he has two dependents (and a wife) I don't suppose he will apply again.

He's had one narrow escape (Kings Cross 7th July 2005).

He was in the next carriage to the one that the bomber chose to get in . . .

That's probably enough for one lifetime.

tony draper
26th May 2012, 20:48
The most impressive one I recall was a bloke jumped and his chute failed then his spare failed, he had his camera running all the time with a open mic,the impressive thing was the silence, just the sound of him breathing rather heavily as he plummeted groundward sans chute,had it been me you would have heard me shrieks in the Orkneys,
Amazingly he landed in some bushes and survived with only a limb or two Broken.
One has never been tempted.
:uhoh:

ExSp33db1rd
26th May 2012, 23:30
One has never been tempted.

The only time to ever jump out of a perfectly serviceable aeroplane is when it is on fire. ( which is also the only time that one has too much fuel )

In my NATO sponsored RAF training, one of the students was of the French Air Force, an ex-3rd mate off a Marseilles tanker, and built accordingly.

One night, flying a Harvard, he got himself lost over snow covered terrain in Canada, and decided that the only answer was to bale out. ( not the brightest of decisions, but he was still a student ) He undid his straps, opened the canopy, and with a skill that I doubt I could emulate, managed to climb out on to the wing whilst still holding the control column with some semblance of control. He then looked down at the dark, snow covered landscape - and climbed back in !!

He eventually saw some lights, which proved to be our home airfield.

( so he told us, obviously as a solo student there was no witness to the story - we believed him )

Fliegenmong
26th May 2012, 23:36
With you Ex.....

Caboclo
26th May 2012, 23:51
The only time to ever jump out of a perfectly serviceable aeroplane is when it is on fire.

Ah yes, the old 'perfectly serviceable' line. Speaking as an ex-jump pilot, jump planes are never perfectly serviceable. For one thing, they tend to be retired freighters. :eek: Then, the operator removes all remaining interior paneling to save weight, and covers all the sharp corners with duct tape. Thus, the aircraft appears to be held together with tape. It was frequently harder to get the customers in than out! :}

pigboat
26th May 2012, 23:54
The only time to ever jump out of a perfectly serviceable aeroplane is when it is on fire. ( which is also the only time that one has too much fuel )
That philosophy has served me well for 65 years, Ex. :ok:

A similar incident occurred recently with a young woman, though the results weren't as positive - she fell from the instructor's grasp and fell . . .

Hang glider dies after fall in BC. (http://www.avcanada.ca/forums2/viewtopic.php?f=118&t=81219)

Davaar
27th May 2012, 00:20
Frankly, always knew it was not for me. Once I wound back the canopy and asked myself: Are you sure? And I answered: Yup!

mini
27th May 2012, 00:58
Nah, not for me either. Don't like heights, I have no problem flying a small single, or travelling in anything that flies. Jumping out of it just seems daft IMHO.

As an aside, when mini was in the military, he decided that because of his distaste of dangling on ropes at great height, (part of basic training...) he would apply to become a combat diver... He was after all a civvy Diving Instructer (PADI)

Yeah. After the toughest 9 months of my life, our selection having been screwed down to eight of 75, I'd got there... so I thought. Our last day should have been a jolly... bugger that, we were lined up on a bridge and told to jump... 60 bloody feet!

I did.

Anyway, I still don't like jumping from anything...

Ozzy
27th May 2012, 02:18
I have taken off one more time than landing in an aircraft. I enjoyed it, static line jump though so no brainer really...unless the main chute had not deployed then pulling the reserve would have been fun. I still remember the training to this day and would know what to do! That's 30 years later...

Ozzy

Hydromet
27th May 2012, 02:38
A late colleague flew bombers in WW II, aerial photography in Indonesia afterwards, and had never had to use a parachute. Many years later, he was flying a glider when the wing literally broke off. Because it was at the world championships he was wearing a 'chute, and used it. He said his biggest worry was bits of glider coming past him after it opened. On the way down he tried to remember all the things he'd learned 30 years before about landing. All he could remember was to spit out his false teeth!

Another colleague, on his first (recreational) solo jump, had a problem and had to use his reserve. Fortunately, all went well. It didn't put him off, and he did many more jumps, eventually instructing. He said that when things went wrong, time seemed to slow down, and he seemed to have plenty of time to think and do things. Guess adrenaline can do that.

criticalmass
27th May 2012, 02:53
The video clearly shows:-

i) a reluctance to exit on the part of the passenger; after the second refusal the tandem-master should have remained with his passenger inside the aircraft and returned to earth without proceeding with the jump.

ii) a very poorly-adjusted tandem-passenger harness, clearly visible during the exit. Slack shoulder and leg-straps, as if they were never adjusted at all.

The responsibility for that goes straight to the tandem-master. I've seen the entire video (from gearing up onwards) and the tandem-master simply fails to ensure the passenger is correctly secured in the harness.

(I am a veteran of over 2000 skydives, and video'd several hundred tandem-jumps before retiring from skydiving. Every tandem-master I ever worked with was very attentive to the passenger being correctly harnessesd and fully-briefed as to what was expected of them. I made sure I had the full briefing on both audio and video in case there was an issue.)

Davaar
27th May 2012, 02:54
we were lined up on a bridge and told to jump

Yeah. Much like the topmost diving board in "wet dinghy drill", I suppose.

UniFoxOs
27th May 2012, 06:56
The video clearly shows:-

The words "This video is private" as soon as you start it.

The only time to ever jump out of a perfectly serviceable aeroplane is when it is on fire.

Not sure I would describe that as serviceable, or certainly not for long.

UFO
Never parachuted, never wanted to.

OFSO
27th May 2012, 08:44
A Googoo search reveals that it isn't a unique occurrence (failing to survive a parachute jump).

My local dropzone is one of the largest in Europe, the Christmas Boogie attracts thousands. We who live here knows there are quite a few fatalities each year and most don't get reported as it is bad for business. Last year had a suicide of an instructor who came straight in, canopy unopened.

Talking to the jumpers is quite an education in how to ignore any information they should know such as meteorology - we get winds here that can peak well over 100 mph and come up in ten minutes. But say the word "Tramontana" to these guys and you mostly get a blank look.

M.Mouse
27th May 2012, 13:53
The words "This video is private" as soon as you start it.

Here is another link to the same video on a different site.

Try here. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/26/laverne-everett-80-year-old-woman-skydiving-harness-video_n_1547933.html)

Curious Pax
27th May 2012, 16:38
I'm another in the serviceable aircraft no jump camp. My brother did a jump for charity once, but at some point on the way down fainted. He woke up uninjured face down in a field - presumably being totally limp is a good way to land!

Spunky Monkey
27th May 2012, 19:54
Well that is one way to do a jump...Arse First!

That is such an outrageous event, I wouldn't be surprised if a law suit doesn't follow...

pigboat
27th May 2012, 21:47
That is such an outrageous event, I wouldn't be surprised if a law suit doesn't follow...
Beginning with the airframe manufacturer probably.

broadreach
28th May 2012, 00:07
Nearly fifty years ago I agreed on a trade - I would give my friend some rock climbing instructin and he'd give me some basic skydiving instruction, including a jump. We never got beyond the basics of climbing and I've always been rather glad of that.

visibility3miles
28th May 2012, 05:03
More info here:

80-year-old nearly falls out of harness while skydiving | KING5.com Seattle (http://www.king5.com/news/80-year-old-nearly-falls-out-of-harness-while-skydiving-154884085.html)

What, no jumpsuit?

The harness was NOT checked well before they left the plane. No way should that harness be loose. Sloppy.

The chest strap should be above the bra in this case.

The jump was a year ago. Went viral recently.

Solid Rust Twotter
28th May 2012, 05:38
3500 odd jumps in over 20 years while still active (since 1978). I'd say the problem lies a lot deeper than what is seen here. Students are no longer taught to think for themselves or taught basic survival, rather relying on technology while getting their freefall technique polished and geeking for the camera. It's become a bit of a pay as you go thrill factory, instead of the hard core of people jumping dodgy gear and improving things as they went along ethos of a few years ago.

Having the harness set up incorrectly so she could slip out tells me little attention was paid to detail while a lot of the rah rah gung ho hype went on. Seen it numerous times which was one of the factors leading to me quitting the sport. Lots of big egos involved, while commitment has waned.

Storminnorm
28th May 2012, 09:59
Sky-diving? NO thanks.

corsair
28th May 2012, 11:05
They should have quietly binned the video at the time. Bit embarrassing for them as it clearly shows some sloppy work on the part of the Instructor. The reality is that tandem skydiving is relatively safe and generally well regulated. Thousands jump all over the world every week with few accidents and very rare fatalities. In my skydive time I must have dropped over 4000 tandems with only a few reserve deployments and and only couple of minor injuries. Injuries tend to happen when people do not do as they're told and fail to raise their legs for landing.

Solo skydiving is potentially more dangerous but almost invariably because people don't follow or forget their training. Mostly it's experienced skydivers doing something stupid that gets them killed. But was the closest I came to see someone die was a first jumper who exited badly and got tangled. She spiralled downward and made no attempt to deploy the reserve despite the Instructor on the ground yelling into the radio. As she got closer I turned away because I didn't want to see her die. She pulled very low, some estimate 300 to 400 feet and was only under canopy for few seconds. I was shaking for hours afterward. She was almost oblivious to how close she came to dying.