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G-CPTN
24th May 2012, 12:43
I'm using W7 Home Premium and Firefox (updated to v12 today, previously a much older version).

I have previously accessed the live-timing at Formula 1 (http://www.formula1.com/live_timing/) without problems until a couple of weeks ago (Barcelona) when it failed to load citing Java as the problem. Same problem in IE.

Same problem today, so I've uninstalled all Java, upgraded Firefox to v12 and re-installed Java (both 32 and 64 versions) - no change to the situation, and I've also disabled NoScript (though this wasn't a problem prior to May 2012).

I've also had problems viewing the 360 degree view at:- AS90 Self-Propelled Gun - British Army Website (http://www.army.mod.uk/equipment/artillery-air-defence/1510.aspx)
with the following report:-
Java Plug-in 10.4.0.22
Using JRE version 1.7.0_04-b22 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
User home directory = C:\Users\ToshibaC660
----------------------------------------------------
c: clear console window
f: finalize objects on finalization queue
g: garbage collect
h: display this help message
l: dump classloader list
m: print memory usage
o: trigger logging
q: hide console
r: reload policy configuration
s: dump system and deployment properties
t: dump thread list
v: dump thread stack
x: clear classloader cache
0-5: set trace level to <n>
----------------------------------------------------
f1app © 2003-2011 LBi Ltd - Version 6.0.8
http://www.lbi.com/
User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
Hostname: Formula 1 (http://www.formula1.com)
Loading keyframe 0
IO Exception during keyframe: java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out:


What else can I do?

txdmy1
24th May 2012, 14:27
I think is
'connection timed out'
firewall?

txdmy1
24th May 2012, 14:37
on w7 64bit pro, FFv12
downloaded Java, looked @ both sites, no worries
I run MS security essentials only, so - firewall?
Regards
Mikey

green granite
24th May 2012, 14:39
First of all both sites work ok with FireFox,(V13 in my case).

The Java plug-in for FireFox is V1.6.0_32 and the java platform version is 'SE 6 U32 6.0.320.5 (From tools>add-ons>plugins

And why are you trying to apparently access things through http://www.lbi.com/, which is a global marketing and technology agency?

Where did you get your java from?

G-CPTN
24th May 2012, 14:51
Java sourced from an online search.

Have you a 'safer' source?

Thanks for the clues.

I'll research my Firewall . . .

Ancient Observer
24th May 2012, 14:54
Agree with GG. I'm on 7/64 Home Premium, FF 12 - I just stopped the auto updates, so not on 13. Use M/S Sec. Essentials.
Java plug in same no as GG, and working OK as far as I can tell.
Java and FF did appear to have a conflict on my machine a couple of FF updates ago, but fine now. Had to delete Java completely and start again.

green granite
24th May 2012, 15:39
download from:

Download Free Java Software (http://java.com/en/download/index.jsp)

Suggest you unistal java, check to see the folder has been removed from C : \ program files x86 then run the registry cleaner in CC cleaner and clear out any registry entries, also check it has been removed from add ons>plugins in FF then download from above, and instal.

G-CPTN
24th May 2012, 16:04
Sorted, many thanks.

I suspect that the 'problem' might have been due to Zone-Alarm (judging by the dates of installation and the initial occurrence of the 'blocking').

Now I can, once again, enjoy F1 practice sessions by watching the lap-times 'live'.

It's been frustrating not having access!

txdmy1
24th May 2012, 17:17
sweet, result :)

Milo Minderbinder
24th May 2012, 19:31
good example of why I think for most people third party software firewalls are counterproductive
they create more problems than they solve

green granite
24th May 2012, 21:15
Perhaps Milo, with the oddity of the http ://www.lbi.com/ appearing in the java report, the firewall was doing it's job.

G-CPTN
24th May 2012, 22:12
Following the advice, I looked through what I had installed since a known successful period, and the ZoneAlarm fell into that category.

In addition to uninstalling ZA I uninstalled Java (again) and several other 'unwanted' items (such as the bitching messages for an initially free programme that was supplied installed with the computer now requesting payment).

I then followed the link for Java and installed it and, hey presto! it worked . . .

The only 'annoyance' was the constant restarts required between uninstalls.