birds on finals.

[zohair]

hi all, is there any sop or procedure to avoid birds on final app.

[LimaFoxTango]

If you see it, avoid it.

[lomapaseo]

If your plane far outweighs the birds


Fly the airplane, let the birds make the moves

[jumbojet]

EASA is to mandate all birds to carry "mode S transponders" there will be no further problems!

[misd-agin]

Do nothing is best.

If you just have to do anything close your eyes is the next best option.

[freqslf]

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Hi, I would recommend this book:

Sharing the Skies - Transport Canada (TP 13549 - Sharing the Skies - Transport Canada (http://www.tc.gc.ca/eng/civilaviation/publications/tp13549-menu-2163.htm))

from the book:

If you encounter birds, the most effective evasive action may be to climb above them while maintaining a safe speed. Biologists have observed that some birds break downwards when threatened. Other recent studies indicate that some birds may view aircraft as immobile objects, and turn slowly away when at a perceived safe distance.

Bird size can be estimated by observing the wing-beat rate; the slower the beat, the larger the bird—and the greater the potential for damage.

Also, more eyeballs = more chance of spottings the birds, so if you can, try to look out the window together..


PS
credit: the link above is from a post submitted by italia458

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[italia458]

Hi, I would recommend this book:

Sharing the Skies - Transport Canada (TP 13549 - Sharing the Skies - Transport Canada)


Stole my link! :p

But yes, I would recommend that publication as well.

[GarageYears]

Can't help but want to type a one-word reply:

LASERS...

But PPruNe won't let me...

- GY :eek:

[lomapaseo]

GarageYears

Can't help but want to type a one-word reply:

"Lasers"



It's been proposed many years ago.

I once assigned a proposer to the engineering task of designing such a device.

Power
sensing
timing

He gave up after a day and went back to more productive engineering tasks

[RetiredF4]

lomapaseo
If your plane far outweighs the birds

Fly the airplane, let the birds make the moves

I like that one, and it is also my personal expierience.

Friend of mine had a student in the front seat, who started an evasive maneuver on short final.
Final achievement: 20 million $ aircraft (F4) broken near the runway and two pilots with a martin baker nylon landing, thankfully with minor bruises.

franzl

[alistomalibu]

I have made a go-around due to an incredible quantity of birds flying over the final approach area. It was just after rain. They were flying over the area where trash is thrown.