View Full Version : Anzac Day, Australia and New Zealand

24th Apr 2012, 21:45
Lest We Forget.

24th Apr 2012, 21:46
Yup, indeed. Just been explaining the day to a German colleague.

DX Wombat
24th Apr 2012, 22:30
OzNephew has joined the Army Cadets and will be taking part in his first ANZAC Dawn Parade. They are camping/sleeping in a church hall somewhere overnight as the parade isn't the big one in Perth but in a small town somewhere. He's allowed to wear his grandad's WW2 medals which he says he will be proud to do. :ok:

24th Apr 2012, 22:49
Thank you ANZACS:ok:

24th Apr 2012, 22:51
Thank you ANZACS:ok:

25th Apr 2012, 01:10
Indeed! Thank you all. What they did must never be forgotten. What so many died for must never be taken for granted. :ok:

Takan Inchovit
25th Apr 2012, 01:12
Dawn Parade had a good turn out this morning. My kids go even though they don't live at home.

Ghost Vector
25th Apr 2012, 02:39
Thank You for all you have sacrificed. May God bless you all.

Willi B
25th Apr 2012, 05:12
Did my eyes deceive me or was Julia Gillard's consort wearing an open necked shirt without a tie at the Gallipoli Dawn Service?

Worrals in the wilds
25th Apr 2012, 06:18

Lest we forget, both the living and the dead.
Soldier On - Helping our wounded warriors (http://soldieron.org.au/)

Buster Hyman
25th Apr 2012, 06:57
Did my eyes deceive me or was Julia Gillard's consort wearing an open necked shirt without a tie at the Gallipoli Dawn Service?
He was wearing a tie when laying the wreath.

Willi B
25th Apr 2012, 07:35

Thanks. Must have been the angle of the shot I glimpsed.

25th Apr 2012, 08:33
The Anzac Day march through Darwin has included hundreds of US servicemen. About 130 US Marines who have recently been deployed to Darwin from Hawaii marched with Australian veterans and serving army, navy and airforce personnel through the streets of the city this morning. They were joined by about 150 sailors from the visiting American warship USS Halsey.

Thousands of people lined the streets to cheer the parade.

After the march, US Marines Captain Christopher Richard Allen said it was an enormous honour to take part.

US Colonel John Parker says he was honoured to be involved in the ceremony.


Buster Hyman
25th Apr 2012, 08:59
Didn't see that on the news down here RJM.

Naturally, we got to see the Aboriginals marching against the "massacre" of colonisation...a march that Aboriginal veterans apparently condemned!

25th Apr 2012, 09:21
You don't read your NT News, Buster. It's right there after the sections on drunks and croc attacks.

I don't know if the USMC and USN brought a band with them, or what they played if they did. Nothing like a bit of John Philip Sousa in a parade.

Ancient Observer
25th Apr 2012, 15:17
We won't forget

25th Apr 2012, 15:23
Did my eyes deceive me or was Julia Gillard's consort wearing an open necked shirt without a tie at the Gallipoli Dawn Service?

Thanks. Must have been the angle of the shot I glimpsed.

Must be a bit of a disappointment :hmm:

Buster Hyman
25th Apr 2012, 16:18
There's a thread running for your vitriol. Take it there & leave this thread for the ANZACS.

25th Apr 2012, 20:07
Here in Orlando I hung our Oz flag from our flagpole this morning and included an ANZAC biscuit with Liam's school lunch. He knows today is called ANZAC day & why it is an important day in Oz.

25th Apr 2012, 20:18
Never heard of Anzac Day until I looked it up. Similar in many ways to our (USA) Memorial Day.

A solemn day for remembering those who have given the ultimate.

A salute to all Australian and New Zealanders who have given their lives, from this American veteran.


26th Apr 2012, 09:15
I received a 'group' e-mail this year telling me not to buy a poppy if it hadn't been made in NZ. - which was most likely, and how would I know ? - 'cos I might be supporting Chinese businessmen, not the RSA.

There is a row going on in NZ about the RSA -( Returned and Services Ass'n. like the RSL, British Legion, Veterans' Ass'n. etc.if you identify with those groups ) having the poppies that it sells for this occasion made in China in recent years, thereby denying the RSA of extra funds through sales of their poppies.

Do we buy a poppy to only swell the coffers of the RSA, as on one of the many "Flag Days" held by other organisations, or to remember why we buy a poppy ?

I'm in total ignorance of the birthplace of my poppy this year, and don't care either, I still wore mine with pride - and remembered.

DX Wombat
26th Apr 2012, 11:23
Good for you. Let's hope they return to being made in the country where they are to be worn.

Worrals in the wilds
26th Apr 2012, 12:30
Appreciated, rgbrock1, though I don't speak on their behalf. Good quote.

26th Apr 2012, 15:30
ExSp33db1rd and DX Wombat

The main reason for the controversy over the making of the poppies is not who or where they are being made but who the work has been taken away from.

The manufacture has previously been entrusted to Killmarnock enterprises formally known as the sheltered workshops of the intellectually handicapped, and has provided them with regular annual income, and for them has become the source of enormous pride as their product goes on display on a very special occasion.

The RSA ask for $3 donation for a poppy. I think most New Zealanders would be happy to pay $5 with $2 going to Killmarnock rather than have them made in China for 5cents, so saving the RSA 5cents.

Just doesn't feel right to me.

DX Wombat
26th Apr 2012, 15:36
Thank you Quizling, we haven't heard any of that over here but I would agree wholeheartedly that production should remain with Kilmarnock. Let's hope people see sense.

26th Apr 2012, 15:57
Canterbury RSAs Vow To Keep Making Poppies | Stuff.co.nz (http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/6753208/RSAs-vow-to-keep-making-poppies)

Christchurch Disabled Workers Miss Making RSA Poppies... | Stuff.co.nz (http://www.stuff.co.nz/the-press/news/6769374/Disabled-workers-miss-fun-value-of-poppies)

NZ poppies to continue despite cheaper imports - Page 2 - World War 2 Talk (http://www.ww2talk.com/forum/ww2-news-articles/44349-nz-poppies-continue-despite-cheaper-imports-2.html)

26th Apr 2012, 22:40
Totally agree with Quizlings' sentiments, and the reasons, and sincerely hope that the manufacturing returns to the NZ labour force, but again I ask, do we wear a poppy just to assist the RSA, or other organisations making the poppies, or to Remember ?

I know my reason, and that's from a Pom who always thought that Poppy Day was November 11th, but still support the local sentiment anyway.

Old 'Un
27th Apr 2012, 01:03
I wear a poppy on ANZAC day in remembrance of the fallen, and those who did return, having been prepared to put their lives on the line.

The kerfuffle over this year's poppies was all to do with costs. The RSA found a cheaper supplier overseas and thus was able to 'save' itself many thousands of dollars which, they correctly said, could be spent on servicemen & women. They are only looking after their own. Fair enough too.

The other side of the story is the loss of a sizeable amount of income to Kilmarnock Enterprises which gainfully employs many otherwise unemployable individuals. (Read "intellectually handicapped" to use the old term)

I can see the points of view of both sides and, to me, there is no right or wrong in both arguments. It's really a case of where each organisations' priorities lie.

Whatever the subsequent actions by both parties, I shall continue to support both, and continue to wear a poppy on ANZAC Day, "to remember".

Lest we forget

Le Vieux

Ancient Observer
14th May 2012, 17:42

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14th May 2012, 17:48

Thanks for sharing the photos. The reconstructed trench is not something I would have ever wanted to fight from. Not this ex-infantryman.

Ancient Observer
14th May 2012, 18:00