Examiner's Personal Logbook

[Needles Crossed]

Quick question to FEs. Lasors/JARs state that a FE can log flight time during a skills test or proficiency test as PIC. Do you also log the time in the instructor column?

I was always under the impression that instructor time should be logged during checks, due to the dependency of the FE authorisation on an FI rating. I was recently considering the situation where in an AOC environment, a check (a line check for instance) need not be carried out by a CRE, but also by a commander acceptable to the authority. Surely in this case, the commander cannot log time as an instructor!

Is there anything obvious that I'm missing here?

[blagger]

Think you are mixing up lots of tests with checks, line training captains with TRIs etc... The situations are all very different, ultimately an instructor or examiner logs whatever is appropriate for what privileges they are exercising on each flight.

[DB6]

As an FE, yes. As a line check captain, no. Can't look up references just now but in the latter case you are not generally occupying a seat where you can reach the controls.

[Whopity]

The only authoritative source for what you have to log is the UK ANO Article 79. Even under EASA, it will remain the prerogative of each individual authority as to what will be recorded. Beyond that, its a personal flying log book so the holder may log whatever they like.

Normally, an examiner will log as PIC those flights on which he is entitled to act as PIC. If he is acting as an Examiner that requires him to hold an instructor qualification, then if he wants to log it, there is nothing that says he must or can't. Normally, such events would be limited to licensing tests and not operator proficiency checks, that have no licensing function. I don't have an instructor column in my log book! If you are not an instructor what would be the point of logging instructional time, any more than picking flowers?

[S-Works]

I log my flights as an examiner in the P1 column and Instructor column as the time examining also counts towards my Instructor renewal.