AS350 Down near Bonn Germany, 6 injured.

[franktion]

Katastrophe beim Frühlingsfest: Sechs Verletzte bei Hubschrauber-Absturz | RP ONLINE (http://www.rp-online.de/panorama/deutschland/sechs-verletzte-bei-hubschrauber-absturz-1.2767034)

[rotornut]

Translation:

Spring festival catastrophe: 6 injured in helicopter crash

[heli-cal]

http://bc03.rp-online.de/polopoly_fs/bug-voran-liegt-hubschrauber-sonntag-25032012-1.2767033.1332679042!/httpImage/864695283.jpg_gen/derivatives/rpoPanorama_786/864695283.jpg

http://bc01.rp-online.de/polopoly_fs/bug-voran-liegt-hubschrauber-sonntag-25032012-1.2767032.1332679035!/httpImage/2830433654.jpg_gen/derivatives/rpoPanorama_446/2830433654.jpg

[helihub]

http://www.ksta.de/ks/images/mdsBild/1332603261217l.jpg

[dogpaddy]

Is that the Soloy AS350 from Hahn Heli?

Anyone know the name of the pilot? PMs accepted.

[skadi]

The five passengers were unhurt, after a medical checkup they even attendet the festival again in the afternoon. The pilot ( 62 yrs old ) was flown to hospital with compressions ( spine? ).

skadi

[hueyracer]

An article in the newspaper says that the helicopter was operated by "DHD" (German Helicopter Services), they have been flying on this festival for the last 4 years already...

The article also says that the accident investigation did not show any signs of "pilots´error" (at least not on the first day of the investigation)..

[Ian Corrigible]

Is that the Soloy AS350 from Hahn Heli?
Yes, looks like one of their SD2s (D-HENN).

I/C

[Hedski]

Pilot 62? Single pilot public transport age limits???

[GoodGrief]

Waived to 65 years within national airspace only, due to pension regulations.

[Spunk]

... and it's not considered being public transport but aerial work (at least according to the german aviation authorities)

[Torquetalk]

... and it's not considered being public transport but aerial work (at least according to the german aviation authorities)

Do you have the specific reg/text for that spunk?

Waived to 65 years within national airspace only, due to pension regulations.

ditto Goodgrief

TT

[Ready2Fly]

The extension is in §127 LuftPersV (german only):

§ 127 LuftPersV Ausübung der Rechte einer Lizenz bei der gewerbsmäßigen Beförderung von Fluggästen, Post oder Fracht innerhalb des Hoheitsgebietes der Bundesrepublik Deutschland (http://www.buzer.de/gesetz/6858/a97629.htm)

and valid at least until 08.04.2013 due to the opt-out.

Germany is considering a further exemption based on Regulation (EC) No 216/2008, Article 14(4) exemption.

[Denti]

They gonna excempt further if possible. Several reasons for that. One is of course the state pension which has no exception for flight crew and starts between 65 and 67 depending on date of birth, retiring at 60 would lead do unofficial unemployment state and income of 374€ per month after a year.
The other problem is that around 30 to 40% of all rescue helicopters would be grounded immediately.

[Rotatohead]

... and it's not considered being public transport but aerial work (at least according to the german aviation authorities)
...rather according to some operators, I suppose.
A reference would be nice, Spunk!

[Torquetalk]

nice clarification re. the post-60 SP theme guys, thanx.

TT

[Spunk]

TorqueTalk

Do you have the specific reg/text for that spunk?

Rotatohead

...rather according to some operators, I suppose.
A reference would be nice, Spunk!

I would love to point out the appropriate reference if I only knew it. I didn't say that there is such reg. At least I wasn't able to find it so far.
What I am saying though (and for the books: I DON'T agree on their point of view) is that the German aviation authorities look at it that way.
Anything beyond carrying pax and/or cargo from point A to point B is not considered being public transport.

[eivissa]

I tend to disagree as I know several companys in Germany operatoring under an "AOC light" which only permits them flights with passengers from A to A = Scenic flights. This is in fact considered public transport and requires an AOC!!

The only excemption are public events on airfields were even a PPL can offer tours in his aircraft for money. :ugh:

[Thone1]

Latest news I´ve read is that the pilot can move his toes and was conscious throughout.
Passengers are ok afaik.

Thomas

[Shawn Coyle]

Cause of the unplanned landing?

[skadi]

Cause of the unplanned landing?

Obviously technical reason. Police stated: No pilot fault. Eyewhitnesses reported flames out of the exhaust short prior to the crash.

skadi