C152,think im too heavy

[PPRuNeUser0179]

hi all

im studying for my CPL ROTORWING,but only going to recieve my SPL around june i hope.anyway,once i recieve my SPL,i am hoping to put 3 grand (R3000.00) towards a few c152/c172 flights,just for fun.i would like to fly both types...but one thing...i am 1,89 meters tall,and weigh 107kilograms"KG"/230pounds.not fat,just built and a heavy rugby player...do you think the C152 will be able to take off with myself and an instructor.And do you think the C172 will be able to take-off with myself,instructor and my father(who weighs round 70-75 kilograms "KG")...?

[kenparry]

You are right, the C152 is very load-restricted. The empty weights vary a little, so for each airframe you need to look at its Flight Manual and work out what the disposable load actually is. For your size, I doubt you would get you, an instructor, and some fuel within the MTOW.

The 172 is considerably more capable, but again you need to look at the Flight Manual for the specific aircraft and do your own sums.

[chrisbl]

Re the 152, it depends on the size of instructor, the max weight of a 152 is about 750Kg, witha typical empty weight of 530kgs, leaving 220kgs. So its going to be tight.

From a personal comfort viewpoint your own personal bulk will make for an uncomfortable dual flight.

Better go and fly a 172 and forget the 152.

[average-punter]

I would ask your instructor about it and see what they suggest? I'm slender built and 5 foot 9 so you must find the 152 a very small aircraft!

[sevenstrokeroll]

forget the cessna....way too small...try the Piper Cherokee series (warrior or archer)...nicer more comfortable plane...much better in my opinion

jon
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[PPRuNeUser0179]

hey guys...alright,so the 152 is out of the window....jon said "forget the cessna,"so thats out of the window..on to the piper archer/warrior...do you think that can lift 3 people with the weights mentioned above?also,roughly how much per hour?

thanks to everyone&Jon

[Genghis the Engineer]

Any of the PA28s, most C172 variants, you should be fine.

A Grumman AA5b Tiger should also be fine.

Yes, I'd anticipate problems in the C150 and C152 with size and payload, the AA5a Cheetah with payload, and *possibly* the PA38 also with payload 2-up.

The C150, C152 and PA38, just in case you didn't know, are all 2-seaters, the others are all 4-seaters. As you've probably worked out by now however, many 4 seaters don't really have the payload to fill all four seats and the fuel tanks at the same time.

G

[ChrisJ800]

Im 6'4" and over 100kg and was happy learning on the 152 and aerobat. Most instructors were skinny 19 year olds and I never needed full tanks for an hour or so in the training area. I also flew gliders with smaller cockpits than a 152. I did switch to PA24 and PA28's which I agree are more comfortable. Then finished CPL training on C172rg and Beech 76 comfort improving each time.

[Dan the weegie]

152 is fine but you'll more often than not be flying out of limits (which it does perfectly adequately despite it not being legal). If you add another person then it's only getting worse :).

PA28 is fine but for a tall one a C172 is far more suitable imo, you also get to see down which is far better than seeing up :).

[corsair]

I remember two big guys getting into a 150 and attempting to take off from a relatively long runway (luckily). After several attempted take off runs that would do justice to 747. They gave up and came back for a C172.

[mad_jock]

I remember seeing a C152 with long range tanks fitted and huge photographer plus loads of cameras and not so huge but pretty big pilot fill her up and takeoff from inverness. Definately shut both the doors at the same time or its the door popping open game.

Normally you would expect a light to be off the deck before the intersection nope they were right down to the numbers when they inched off the ground and just cleared the hedge and had to turn towards the water to miss the woodchip plant.

We reckoned they must have been over a 100kg above MTOW.

[Dan the weegie]

And the rest mate :)